From geoffruff at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 00:52:34 2005 From: geoffruff at blueyonder.co.uk (Geoff) Date: Fri Apr 1 00:51:36 2005 Subject: [CAE] req please tolouse Message-ID: <000601c5367f$01eea250$dc01c350@geoffrey> Hi Carl I have always contacted them at their email address reservation@taxiway.fr they do take a couple of days or so to respond, and have always been very accommodating. Rgds Geoff From pauljay at home.nl Fri Apr 1 01:55:09 2005 From: pauljay at home.nl (Paul J. Hooper) Date: Fri Apr 1 02:10:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Frankfurt Hotels References: <003201c53644$2545bad0$2a555651@pipseorh1o6n89> Message-ID: <004b01c53689$d8e67ad0$0300a8c0@cp288262a> When you know you are going to make a trip why don't you keep all the postings pertaining to your destination? I keep all destination reports, knowing full well that I shall never use them, save to forward them to people who are too lazy to do it for themselves! This particular subject has been so well covered that I think I can name all the staff members at Frankfurt hotels and tell you what they had for breakfast!! Here's a little extract from the FAQs: >It is emphasised that list members are expected to do most of their own research and only post a REQ to the list as a last resort. To aid your research the moderators have set up a "Vault" of links to sites that may be of use to you. A link to the Vault will be found at the bottom of each posting to the list, or you can go to the group's webspace and click on "Links" on the left hand side of the page. Alternatively, tapping a search hint into the Google search engine will often produce the result you require. The list members are not here to do your research for you.< QED! Paul. Paul J. Hooper, CAE List head honcho, and pedant! pauljay@home.nl www.yankee44.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.Phillips" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 00:51 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Frankfurt Hotels > Hello all, > A friend and I have just booked to go to Frankfurt for a > couple of days In June and I remember someone saying they stayed in a > cheapish hotel near to the airport that had a suttle bus, can anyone please > advise me to which hotel it was I've deleted all my mail and lost the name > of the place. Any help will be appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > > Steve Phillips... > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release Date: 29/03/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From hawkseye at snap.net.nz Fri Apr 1 23:49:01 2005 From: hawkseye at snap.net.nz (Phil Hawks) Date: Fri Apr 1 03:50:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG/INFO: Christchurch, NZ 1/4/05 Message-ID: <424E243D.50207@snap.net.nz> Hi all The latest aircraft to go through the Air New Zealand hangar here at Christchurch was seen outside this afternoon. Ex-Virgin Blue Boeing 737-800 VH-VOF is now in full SunExpress c/s, still currently carrying its Australian reg, but with a 'U' on the tail (so presumably to become TC-SUU). Departure probably in a few days. PS. Sorry, I can't remember who was in contact a while ago about the last one delivered to SunExpress from here (TC-SUO), but if you're reading this, I can confirm that it did route through Bangkok on its delivery flight, so that *was* the one you saw. Cheers Phil Hawks Visit my website 'Hawkseye Aviation Photos' http://fly.to/hawkseye From smartinair at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 03:58:40 2005 From: smartinair at btopenworld.com (Steve Martin) Date: Fri Apr 1 03:58:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Aberdeen 31 Mar 05 Message-ID: <000801c53699$09d33520$7ade8351@computer> Hi Noted yesterday morning at Aberdeen: ES-NOI An72 Atlantic Airlines G-FIJV L-188 Atlantic Airlines Both the above parked up by Bristow An74 YL-KSB(?) of Ksavia parked by the Tower at 1045 G-CDKA Saab 2000 Eastern G-WLSH AT42 Air Wales Nice to see two jet Antonovs at Aberdeen on one day. Cheers Steve From WADETDW at bhill07.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 1 04:02:15 2005 From: WADETDW at bhill07.freeserve.co.uk (Terry Wade) Date: Fri Apr 1 04:01:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO: WEBSITE UPDATE ROUTE LIST & ATC CALLSIGNS Message-ID: <004901c53699$804c2fe0$edaf4354@w9i2a0> For anyone interested today I have updated my ROUTE LIST on my website, and added up to date ATC callsign tie-ups for British Airways and associated companies and Swiss Intl. My route list also includes some DLH/LH new ATC callsign tie-ups. The website address is: **************************************************************** http://members.lycos.co.uk/WADET/index.htm ****************************************************** A LINK TO MY AIRLINERS.NET photos can be found on my index page Regards Terry Wade From chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 1 05:04:18 2005 From: chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk (Chris & Christine Mellon) Date: Fri Apr 1 05:10:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Luton 31st March 2005 + additions 30th Message-ID: <01C536AB.661B4D60.chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk> 30/3 - Credit Graham Sillitoe ============================= 1501/1745 CS-DFE F2TH NJE617P/807W KBP-LTN-DUS 1525/1655 EI-DCR 737 RYR3257/337 1529/1636 G-OZBJ A320 RYR334/514 1855/1959 G-OZBJ A320 RYR515/3606 1940 EC-IBD BD700 GES101 SCQ-LTN 1957/2056 HA-LPC A320 WZZ209B/210B 31/3 ==== Credits: Doug MacDonald, Amanda Hunter, Martin Sidwells, Tony Williams, Gary Loates, Justin Palmer/Kevin Palmer, Keith Dean, Dave Williams, Michael Hooker, Dave Oliver, Jeff Hulme and Steve Merrifield. Covers 0810 - 2400 in full. 0036/0653 G-OZBJ A320 RYR3607/3602 e0215/1105 A6-MAA HS125 F/V YQX-LTN-LCA 0351/0511 757F BCS2411/2833 e0431/1507 LX-AKI FA50EX SVW330K/331K TLV-LTN-RZE 0556 dept N60PT G4SP LTN-FRA 0614 dept A320 FCA776C 0633 dept C550B NJE553P LTN-NQY 0717/0828 G-EZNC A319 EZY4955/4956 e0722/0838 HA-LPD A320 WZZ401W/302G e0729/0844 HA-LPB A320 WZZ101K/402W 0735 N550GA G550 LTN-SAW e0736/0847 HA-LPF A320 WZZ201B/202B 0743/0854 G-EZEC A319 EZY8001/2VG LGW-LTN-PMI 0759 dept G-OZBG A321 RYR3402 0821 dept G-GMAA LJ45 GMA416 LTN-WAW 0824 dept G-JMDW C550 LTN-NHT-ZAZ 0832 dept G-MONB 757 MON012M 0849 dept G-FRYL PRM1 OXE185 LTN-ZRH 0857 dept N575CT G4SP LTN-IOM 0949 dept VP-CSF G4SP LTN-ZRH 0952 N12NZ G4SP BZF12 TEB-LTN 0954/1905 D-IMWK Merlin FMO-LTN-FMO Cranfield Diversion 1013/2342 N700KS BD700 TEB-FAB-LTN-LAX 1016/1117 LJ45 GDA29P/29A BQH-LTN-GVA 1055 EI-WGV G5 EFF005 GVA-LTN 1102/1315 VP-CSA 737 SEN-LTN-NCE 1107/1156 G-OZBJ A320 RYR3603/333K 1109 dept HZ-OFC4 F900EX LTN-NWI 1112/1224 LX-HEC EC155 1118 N405LM G5 CIA-LTN 1128/1212 EI-DCR 737 RYR4151/3256 1142/1606 P4-MES 767 SVO-LTN-EMA 1144/1312 737 HCY400/401 1146/1251 Bae146 BRT1MX/2MX 1156/1237 N630S Astra DND-LTN-DND 1206 dept G-CEGP Be200 CEG523 LTN-SOU 1209/1305 EI-RED ATR72 REA501/544 1246 G-FRYL PRM1 OXE185 ZRH-LTN 1258/1347 HA-LPD A320 WZZ301G/102K 1303 HZ-OFC4 F900EX NWI-LTN 1316/1348 G-HARH S-76B 1328/1613 G-MPCD A320 MON045/068 1333 G-OOAL 767 FCA767M LGW-LTN 1336/1401 D-AJAG CL604 CGN-LTN-CGN 1338/1440 G-OZBG A321 RYR3403/3452 1415/1455 G-EZEC A319 EZY9RL/8002 PMI-LTN-BRS 1420/1535 G-OZBJ A320 RYR334/514 1436/1640 G-OOAP A320 FCA776D/6636 ACE-LTN-TLS 1438/1610 G-MONB 757 MON013M/026 1538/1754 G-SPUR C550 LNX323 BOH-LTN-NCE 1608/1703 N575CT G4SP IOM-LTN-LOS 1614/1708 EI-DCR 737 RYR3257/337 1616/1706 EI-RED ATR72 REA545/506 1618/2026 P4-AOB HS125 VIE-LTN-DME 1621 dept P4-SIS E135BJ LTN-KBP 1655 dept CS-DRB HS125 NJE415P LTN-LCY 1723 N598MT CL604 NHT-LTN 1724 dept G-SSWR SD360 JEM01T LTN-NWI 1751/1826 HB-ISF F2TH IST-LTN-ZRH 1759/1850 G-OZBJ A320 RYR515/3606 1804/1857 G-EZAM A319 EZY4957/4958 1821 G-MONE 757 MON077 1828/1911 EI-DAS 737 RYR3465/3768 1836 N588GS F900EX FRA-LTN 1838/1953 OE-ISN E135BJ AJF888/881 MUC-LTN-DUS 1909 P4-MES 767 EMA-LTN 1919/2011 HA-LPC A320 WZZ209B/210B 1931 N818BA G4 F/V HPN-LTN 1939 CS-DFG F2THEX NJE432P DUB-LTN 1949 VP-CEB BD700 NCE-LTN 1954/2131 G-SSWR SD360 JEM01T/460 NWI-LTN-KSF 1956/2029 G-GMAA LJ45 GMA416 KSC-LTN-FAB 2001/2052 HA-LPD A320 WZZ109K/110K 2022/2115 G-OZBG A321 RYR345R/341 2043 G-OOAP A320 FCA667F TLS-LTN 2055 CS-DNV HS125 NJE337P CMF-LTN 2102 dept EC-IBD BD700 GES101 LTN-TOJ 2303 CV580 BCS2599 2321 G-OZBJ A320 RYR3607 2340 A300F MNB423 IST-LTN 2345 G-OZBG A321 RYR342 2355 737 RYR8348 OPO-LTN Stansted Diversion Diversions out due to fog ========================= ZS-AOL G5 JNB-LTN diverted to STN N700KS BD700 TEB-LTN diverted to FAB (but positioned in later) Kind regards Chris & Christine Mellon e-mail (home): chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk e-mail (work): Chris_Mellon@mastercard.com From Pballardair at aol.com Fri Apr 1 05:23:39 2005 From: Pballardair at aol.com (Pballardair@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 05:23:35 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO;- SOUTHEND JET A/W. Message-ID: <1f4.6b50e23.2f7e7b2b@aol.com> N312TZ was wheeled out for what looked like a quick compass check, and a quick photocall. Returned to ATC about 10.20 Paddy Ballard - Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, UK 51? 32` 37N 000? 38` 25E Near London Southend - EGMC - SEN From d.f.mcloughlin at btinternet.com Fri Apr 1 06:34:52 2005 From: d.f.mcloughlin at btinternet.com (Don McLoughlin) Date: Fri Apr 1 06:35:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log for Tenerife South+ Info Message-ID: <000001c536ae$d592e330$0301a8c0@donaldmcl> Having just returned from a week`s holiday to Sunningdale in Golf del Sur and after Martin Sidwell kindly cleared up a minor mystery ,I now have available a full log for most days for any one who needs it. Dates are from March 22-March 29th inclusive. Anyone visiting Tenerife ,then the Golf del Sur area is ideal with most arrivals being clearly visible on approach- how fast you can get out of the pool is up to the individual. At the airport itself the viewing area is still available at the south end of the terminal with some shade and seats. This time I found my way over to the far side near the banana plantations . Instead of going via Los Abrigos which was packed over the Easter w/e I travelled north on the Autopista to the junction AFTER the airport and then turned left down the hill . Take the first right ,opposite the petrol station and follow the road past the scrap car area and the fire training school . A road bears off to the right- used as a car park for the caves- take this until it runs out and follow the dirt track until your route is barred by a no entry sign and park there. Strangely enough, a metalled road begins at this point- probably to the banana plantations behind you. At this area you are almost at the half way point down the runway and most a/c can be read off whilst on stand. Do beware of heat haze which builds up before lunch. A visit to the AENA web site will give you an idea of what to expect - largely German with the occasional Italian and Austrian. Friday sees two Russians arrive (only one whilst I was there- Transaero EI CZD) whilst Sunday is amazing for the number of Scandinavians of all shapes and sizes - planes not people. First a/c start arriving about 0800- it`s too dark to read anything off on approach before this and the last one readable at night is the GB Airways flight from LGW around 19.30 . From e_dyulgerov at yahoo.com Fri Apr 1 06:56:44 2005 From: e_dyulgerov at yahoo.com (Emo Dyulgerov) Date: Fri Apr 1 06:56:46 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Sofia (SOF/LBSF) 31.3.2005 Message-ID: <20050401115644.36809.qmail@web30009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all! Here are some interesting visitors at Sofia Airport from yesterday: YR-ABB B707 Romanian Government F-RAFI Falcon 50 French Air Froces And some regular visitors: LZ-MNN An-12 Scorpion Air HA-LOK B737-800 Malev OE-LFQ Fokker 70 Austrian Airlines Have a nice day! Emo --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. From DSAWYER at mitsuibabcock.com Fri Apr 1 07:15:03 2005 From: DSAWYER at mitsuibabcock.com (Sawyer, David V) Date: Fri Apr 1 07:21:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: c/n for XA-UBH Sabre Message-ID: <5C7B13280D50DF4E9DF4ABA10557F4AE18378D@07591SERVER> Hi all, At Las Vegas (LAS) on the 10-10-04, during NBAA week, I logged XA-UBH Sabre. Since then I have not been able to find any record of this, even on my updated database. I'm sure it wasn't a mispole, as I saw 2 other reports at the time, and both had the same reg also with a question mark on the identity. 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For further information, visit us at WWW.MITSUIBABCOCK.COM From Jonwrobinson1 at aol.com Fri Apr 1 07:24:48 2005 From: Jonwrobinson1 at aol.com (Jonwrobinson1@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 07:25:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: c/n for XA-UBH Sabre Message-ID: <19b.30eb5209.2f7e9790@aol.com> Hi Dave, My database gives it as 380-40 Regards John Hi all, At Las Vegas (LAS) on the 10-10-04, during NBAA week, I logged XA-UBH Sabre. Since then I have not been able to find any record of this, even on my updated database. I'm sure it wasn't a mispole, as I saw 2 other reports at the time, and both had the same reg also with a question mark on the identity. Any help much appreciated, Regards, Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IMPORTANT NOTICE. This E-Mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and may be privileged and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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For further information, visit us at WWW.MITSUIBABCOCK.COM _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From muckersgaff at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 07:27:17 2005 From: muckersgaff at ntlworld.com (Mark Lawley) Date: Fri Apr 1 07:27:22 2005 Subject: Fw: [CAE] REQ: c/n for XA-UBH Sabre Message-ID: <005901c536b6$281b1b20$3d7a6151@adudxtqfk8koo1> Dave you are quite right , no problems with your eyesight as my vision express glasses helped me identify it that date also , no con number has been sorted yet regards ................... mark lawley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sawyer, David V" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ: c/n for XA-UBH Sabre > Hi all, > > At Las Vegas (LAS) on the 10-10-04, during NBAA week, I logged XA-UBH > Sabre. > > Since then I have not been able to find any record of this, even on my > updated database. > I'm sure it wasn't a mispole, as I saw 2 other reports at the time, and > both > had the same reg also with a question mark on the identity. > Any help much appreciated, > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > - 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Including: AN124 of ANT DES BUREAU 3 ANTONOV 12 1 IL76 1 AN24 6 LET 410 5 TU154 1 IL96 loads of Russian type choppers and AN2's ==================================================================== The trip: We left London Luton on Tuesday morning. Our flight left on time at about 06:45 and it was aboard G-EZJA. Whivch according to the cabin crew, was a brand new B737 aircraft. Us plane spotters know it isn't exactly brand new!!! 29-03-05 LOG: LUTON (04:35-06:45) N1SN GIV VP-BFF GIV D-BUSY CL N437GA GIV N404QS GIVSP N598MT CL CS-DFS CE560XL NJE CS-DFC F2000 NJE A6-RJA G300 ROYAL JET VP-BMS F900EX G-FRYL PREMIER 29-03-05 LOG: Budapest (10:20-13:00) MALEV: HA-LOA,B,E,F,H,L,P,R (BOEING 737G) HA-LMA,B,C,F (F70) HA-LNA,B,D (CRJ) 'MALEV EXPRESS' TS-IOM B736 TUNISAIR 4X-EKI B738 ELAL RA-85642 TU154 AFL HA-TCB IL76 SU-LBC A320 LOTUS LZ-MIR TU154 VIA D-ACRC CRJ EWG D-ABAC B738 AB HA-FAB F27 FARNAIR YR-VGS S340 CARPATAIR LZ-CBE AN 12 HELI AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA-YFD LET410 OE-LGG D-8-4 AUA ARROWS TF-ELZ B734 JET2 9H-ABR B733 AIR MALTA HA-SKU PA.28 ER-SFB S2000 MOLDOVIAN HA-TCN AN26 D-ABWH B733 DLH I-BIMA A319 AZA 9A-BAL LET410 FARNAIR TAIL PH-FHL F27 FARNAIR D-ABAI B734 AB G-EZPG A319 EZY D-ABBN B73-7 AB DREAMLINER CLS HA-LKP B735 SKY MUSEUM AND STORED: HA-LBE 134 MALEV (museum) HA-LCG 154 MALEV (museum) HA-YLR YAK40 (museum) HA-LCE TU154 MALEV (at Terminal 1) HA-BCB MIL2 (faded reg-aircraft is white)(museum) HA-LIQ LI2 (silver fuselage only-no reg showing) (museum) HA-MOA IL18 MALEV (museum) HA-MHI AN.2 (museum) HA-LRA YAK 40 (nr LH technik) 30-03-05 LOG: BUDAPEST (07:50-14:30) HA-LOA,B,C,D,F,E,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,P,R,S (B73G) HA-LMA,B,C,E (F70) HA-LNA,B,C,D (CRJ)-MALEV EXPRESS HA-LHA,B (B762) HA-LPC,E,F (320-WIZZ) OE-LTG D-8-3 AUA ARROWS YR-VGS S340 CARPATAIR UR-VVB B735 AEROSVIT D-AILL 319 GER WINGS D-AIQE 320 DLH B-2561 B763 HAINAN AIR (SEE NOTE AT END) G-EUOE 319 BA HA-LAF LET410 FLIGHT INSPEACTION SERVICE HB-IXW 146 SWISS D-ACRC CRJ EWG D-ACRA CRJ EWG OO-TNC 733 TNT TC-JLE 320 THY LZ-RMK LET410 ER-SFA S2000 MOLDOVIAN LZ-MNK AN12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA-LAY LET410 ABC AIR HA-LAV LET410 N48A KINGAIR RA-86095 IL96 AFL (normally a TU154 on this flight-great to see-GREAT TO SEE) D-AIRD 321 DLH OK-DGC B735 CSA D-ABBE B738 AB 4X-EKE 73-7 ELAL G-EZYP B733 EASYJET G-EZJU B73-7 EASYJET D-ABXL B733 DLH D-ABXM B733 DLH I-BIMC 319 AZA D-CADN KINGAIR ADAC TITLES LZ-BRP AN12 BRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UR-82029 AN124 ANTONOV DESIGN BUREAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1(though not needed) OE-LGC D-8-4 AUR ARROWS D-ABAI B734 AB OM-FLY EMB120 SKY EUROPE LX-LGV ERJ LUXAIR HB-JZI A319 EASYJET TF-ELZ B734 JET2 F-GFKV A320 AFR LN-KKF B733 NORWEIGIAN AIR SHUTTLE G-EZNC A319 EASYJET G-EZPG A319 EASYJET HA-LKP B733 SKY EUROPE N208JJ CE208??? G-EUPO A319 BA OM-RAN B732 AIR SLOVAKIA OK-DGN N734 CSA OO-DJE 146 SN BRUSSELS D-AIQF A320D DLH OE-LTJ D-8-3 AUR ARROWS LN-RMK 87 SAS 31-03-05 LOG: BUDAORS: To get here from Budapest airport, you need to first go into the city centre. Take the Rapter bus from in between Terminal 2A and 2B. Take this bus for approx 25 minutes until you get to the end station. (This route takes you along the main road behind Terminal 1 and also past the aviation museum). You can see, but not read, the cargo as you pass by. Geting off is an option, but due to the strength of my binoculars, I could read almost everything from the viewing deck) The end station of the Raptor bus is called Kobanya Kispect. Once here, take the Metro towards UJ PEST KOSPENT(or similar!!). There is only one metro line at this place (the blue line on the maps). The metro will NOT go back under the bridge and will be the line on the right as you come down the steps onto the station. Take this line for about 15-20 minutes until you get to Ferenciek Terre. This is where i got off to stay at my hotel. Walk past the hotel Erszebet which is 150 metres from the station, and continue along this road for 1/2 km. You will get to a large main road with tram lines and many roads in all directions. Take the Tram to the southwest and then change onto the 87 or 87A bus to Budaors. When you see the airport on your right after 15-25 mins, get off at the first stop and walk around the perimiter towards the entrance.. You need to go to a tourist info center to get a map really, ask for directions and tram numbers here. NOTE: spotting is fine here, we were greeted my pilots eager to show us their aircraft, wanting to be of assistance to us, posing in photos next to there planes-quite increadible. LOG: HA-TUD G115 HA-HSA MIL8 HA-HSB K32 HA-HSC K32 HA-SJK CE152 HA-SEJ WILGA HA-MHT AN2 HA-YHD AN2 TC-HAA AS350 over flight HA-MDP AN2 HA-SJC CE172 HA-SLB CE172 HA-RBT R44 SP-KYK EXTRA HA-MIZ 522 HA-RTL H369 T-MOBILE colours HA-PAO BIP PLANE HA-1211 FLAKE N756BL CE210 HA-MRK K26 HA-SKG CE175 HA-LIS LI2 (silver fuselage with reg showing) HA-HSD K32 HA-MBN AN2 HA-SLU CE152 II HA-MMW K26 HA-MCO K26 HA-MRC K26 HA-MFJ CEMELAK HA-YDE PORTER HA-YMB MAULE HA-MRP K26 HA-SAM ZLIN TRENNER HA-JDW MONNEY M201 HA-TRN ZLIN HA-SLK CE172 HA-7022 GLIDER (non motor) HA-APK 28 HA-JDZ M201 HA-SJN CE172 HA-BFR MIL2 HA-SJB CE150 HA-BCR MIL2 HA-LIX LI2 SUNFLOWER HA-1004 MOTOR GLIDER HA-YACA AVID HA-SIJ ZLIN HA-SKI CE150 HA-SVL CE152 HA-ANR AN2 HA-APO 28 HA-JDR CE HA-SIH ZLIN HA-SIF ZLIN HA-JAS CE177 CARDINAL HA-ANK AN2 'ZERO G' HA-SUK CE150 HA-SGM ZLIN HA-SLN CE150 HA-SKN CE172 HA-JDM IAR 873 HA-TUA CE172 HA-TUG BULLDOG HA-SKD CE172 HA-VEU CE150 HA-APC PA28 HA-YHC AN2 AIR CHURCH HA-SDF ZLIN TRENNER HA-SAU ZLIN TRENNER HA-FAA CE337 SKYMASTER HA-SBK 'LIKE A FINEST' HA-VEO RALLYE HA-SFX ZLIN 142 HA-SJT CE150 HA-SAV ZLIN TRENNER HA-MIX R44 T-MOBILE 31-03-05 CITY CENTRE: HA-005 HYDROGEN BALLOON -restricted from take off by ropes (FAKE REG)*** (real HA-005 is a lindstrand) 31-03-05 BUDAPEST 17:00-21:55 D-AGPB F100 AB D-ABBA B738 AB YR-BGA B733 TAROM D-CCCC METRO BINAIR G-EZIB A319 EASYJET RA-09000 F900 D-AIQR A320 DLH ER-SFA S2000 MOLDOVIAN OE-LGF D-8-4 TYROLEAN CLS OE-FLX CE421C F-GRHU 319 AFR OK-AFE 42 CSA HA-VES TB.9 D-ACLY CRJ DLH OO-DJK 146 SN BRUSSELS HA-LKO B735 SKY EUROPE HA-LPF 320 WIZZ D-ACRE CRJ EWG LZ-MNK AN12 (AGAIN) 4 LET410's arrived but it was too dark to read them. **Presumed to be the same as porevious day.** EI-BXK B734 EIN G-EZJH B73-7 EZY D-AGPK F100 AB SP-LLE B734 LOT HA-LPA 320 WIZZ D-AILT 319 BER WINGS-LH tail without yellow logo G-EZYP B733 EASYJET HA-LKB B738 WINGLETS TRAVEL SERIVCE our flight left 50 minutes late but allowed HA-LKB to be logged!! We were airborne at just before 22:00 on G-EZYP and landed at Luton 2 1/4 hours later. log: Luton EC-HJU CV580 DHL N700KS BD700 departed N53497 PA34 P4-MES B763 some netjets and G- biz, many Ryanairs, Easyjets, Monarch, FCA, Thompson A great few days with almost 150 being made. With 70 odd at Budaors being made. (i made every aircraft there!) The turkish Squirrel was also seen at Budapest the day before, but i wasn't 100%sure of the reg then. A D.A.T and UPS was at Budapest on each day but couldn't be read. The TNT could only be read on one of the days. A trip to BUD needs to be for 2 days min, especially during the winter. The cargo arrives after 19:30 each evening and departs between 07:30 aqnd 09:00. Staying the night and missing the free breakfast to get to the airport early is well worth it!!! On the 2nd day i was there, 4 Let410 and the first AN12 departed between 08:00 and 09:30 Bus, Metro and tram tickets can be purchased in packs of 10 from the RELAY shop at the airport and 1 ticket must be validated when travelling. Do it once on the bus or tram, do it in the machine before you board the metro. The Hainan air operates only on a few days every week. It arrived at Terminal 2A and was towed over to Terminal 1 for storage during the day. It came back eary afternoon for departure. Go to Budapest now, it's well worth it! Enjoy, James Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From gerald.lowther at virgin.net Fri Apr 1 08:47:59 2005 From: gerald.lowther at virgin.net (gerald.lowther) Date: Fri Apr 1 08:46:59 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO Taiwan 737 Message-ID: <000f01c536c1$6bd5f820$77916751@Gerald> Please could someone kindly confirm if this machine has departed Stansted Thanks a lot Gerald From newdorn at tesco.net Fri Apr 1 08:46:49 2005 From: newdorn at tesco.net (Dave and Heather Hughes) Date: Fri Apr 1 08:48:16 2005 Subject: [CAE] CAE [REQ] Kidlington 1/4/05 circa 11.30 Message-ID: <00d501c536c1$44103cb0$216189d9@NEWDORN> Amongst regulars Parked by tower N485LT Hs125 G-CDDT Trinidad Parked amongst others VH-KLN (AIRVAN up fin l/e and 46 on lowere rear fus) G-KOLI PZL-110 Koliber Arrived G-AOFM Auster Autocar Rear of McCalpines G-CDGM Bk-117C G-SURY EC- G-ETHU EC-135 G-LINE Ecuriel G-UEST J/R plus [REQ] about 6/7 other EC-'s and Squirrels including RAF a/c on air test (Macline 22) (callsign also used on G-CHSU airtest) From LHRAviation at aol.com Fri Apr 1 08:57:48 2005 From: LHRAviation at aol.com (LHRAviation@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 08:57:56 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG + REQ Frankfurt 24-03-2005 01-45 till 18.00 (Long) Message-ID: <143.426f5eab.2f7ead5c@aol.com> Hi all Arrived at here just as an IL.76 turned onto the runway for take off. Visits to the bridge were made after 18.00 till about 23.20 Air Berlin B.737 ABBD Germania F.100 AGPH Germanwings A.319 AILK Hapag Lloyd (TUI) B.737 AHFG LTU A.320 ALTF A.321 A.330 ALPF Lufthansa (Airbuses only) A.330 AIKA, AIKC, AIKG A.340 AIGL, AIGY, AIFB (DLH maint), AIHB, AIHI, AIHL Lufthansa Cargo MD.11 ACLJ TEAM Lufthansa ATR.42 ATR.72 ANFB, ANFE, ANFL, I-ADLN DHC.8 BEBA 146 AJET Others A6-EAR A.330 UAE A6-ERS A.340 UAE A7-ABV A.300 QTR B-2460 B.747 CCA B-2462 B.747F CCA B-HUF B.747 CPA B-KAC B.747F HDA C-GFAH A.330 ACA C-GHLA B.767 ACA CC-CQF A.340 LAN CS-TMT A.330 LXR CS-TTI A.310 TAP EC-EZA MD.88 IBE EC-FPJ MD.87 IBE EC-IGZ DC.8 RGN EI-CXN B.737 TSO EI-DFH Emb.170 SMX EI-DFI Emb.170 SMX ES-ABD B.737 ELL ET-ALJ B.767 ETH EW-78843 IL.76 Trans Avia Export Cargo Airlines F-GHQK A.320 AFR F-GJVB A.320 AFR F-GRGM CRJ.100 BZH F-GRJQ CRJ.100 BZH F-GUGI A.318 AFR G-BPEK B.757 BAW G-CPES B.757 BAW G-EMBG Emb.145 CFE G-EMBL Emb.145 CFE G-EMBT Emb.145 CFE G-EMBY Emb.145 CFE G-EOUA A.319 BAW G-EOUH A.319 BAW G-ERJC Emb.145 CFE HB-IXO BAe 146 SWR HB-JAT Emb.145 SWR HL7400 B.747F KAL HL7498 B.747 KAL HS-TGZ B.747 THA I-BIME A.319 AZA JA8074 B.747 JAL JA8097 B.747 ANA JA8161 B.747F JAL JA8191 B.747F NCA LN-RMP MD.82 SAS LN-RRY B.737 SAS LX-LGJ Emb.145 LGL LY-AGQ B.737 LTH N105UA B.747 UAL N173UA B.747 UAL N369AA B.767 AAL N479EV B.747F EVA (mil ramp) N677UP B.747F UPS (remotes past DLH maint) N705GC MD.11F GCO N773UA B.777 UAL N929RD B.757 RYN N37018 B.777 COA OE-LFK F.70 TYR OE-LFP F.70 TYR OE-LTH DHC.8 TYR OE-LTO DHC.8 TYR OH-LXI A.320 FIN OO-DLU A.300F DHL PH-KZH F.70 KLM PP-VRE B.777 VRG PP-VTI MD.11 VRG RA-85171 Tu.154 PLK RA-85653 Tu.154 Cuban S2-ACO DC.10 BBC S5-AAF CRJ.200 ADR SE-DIP MD.87 SAS SP-LDA Emb.170 LOT SP-LFD ATR.72 ELO SX-BGK B.737 AGN TC-JDL A.340 THY TC-OAB A.300 OHY TC-OGL A.320 Atlasjet International Airways TC-SKB B.737 SHY TC-SUC B.737 SXS TC-SUG B.737 SXS TF-ARH B.747F ABD TF-TIO B.757 ICE UR-KIV B.737 AEW V5-NMC MD.11 NMA VP-BWG A.320 AFL VP-BWM A.320 AFL VT-AID B.747 AIC VT-ESN B.747 AIC VT-EVA B.747 AIC YK-AKC A.320 SYR YR-ATD ATR.42 ROT ZS-SNC A.340-6 SAA (remotes past DLH maint) 4X-EBS B.757 ELY 5B-DAW A.320 CYP 9A-CTJ A.319 CRO biz CS-DFU Citation 560XL (5520) CS-DNR Falcon 2000 (120) CS-DNZ Citation 560XL (5235) D-CDNZ Learjet 60 (060) D-CSIX Learjet 60 (120) N320FX CL.604 (5425) N888SF Citationjet (0480) The two aircraft on the gate of the mil base are N1350M (43-49081) DC.3 (14897/26342) N88887 (44-9063) C.54 (27289) Cheer's ========================== Stan Page LHRAviation@aol.com ========================== From a.hilliard at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 07:45:13 2005 From: a.hilliard at btopenworld.com (Rotorblades) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:14:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG (RADIO) : gatwick/LGW/EGKK 1/4/05 Message-ID: <000201c536c5$167b3e40$a8227ad5@main1> Gatwick 126.825 1120-1205 TOM132P B737-800 Thomsonfly BAW8132 British Aws EUJ26E Fk100 EUJet BMM310 B737-400 Atlas Blue BAW2610 British Aws outbound EZY5164 A319 Easyjet BAW7984 B737-400 British Aws DAH2626 B737-600 Air Algerie EZY5262 A319 Easyjet EUJ76M Fk100 EUJet BEE965C BAe146 FlyBe LZB496 B737-500 Bulgaria Air outbound LBT942 A320 Nouvelair AHY108 B757-200 Azal outbound SHT2905 A319 British Aws EZY5132 A319 Easyjet BAL002A Britannia outbound EZY5254 A319 Easyjet RYR112G B737-200 Ryanair DSO911 Dassault outbound EUK802 Air Atlanta Europe outbound EZY5CM A319 Easyjet BAW2880 British Aws outbound SHT2923 B737 British Aws BAW2882 British Aws outbound CSA682 B737 CSA Czech Airlines 1255-1345 MON2499 A330 Monarch BAW2884 British Aws outbound TAP342 A320 TAP Air Portugal MCD055 PA34 Air Medical GBL03B GB Aws EZY5104 A319 Easyjet BAW21P B737 British Aws EZY5205 Easyjet outbound DAL10 B767 Delta Als SHT2927 B737-400 British Aws EZY5476 A319 Easyjet EZY7FG A319 Easyjet DAN205X B737 Maersk Air BAW2561 British Aws RYR114G B737-200 Ryanair BAW2539 B737-400 British Aws EZY762 A319 Easyjet DAN115 B737-700 Maersk Air BAW2597 B737-500 British Aws SHT2959 B737-400 British Aws ISS3537 A319 Meridiana GBL81R A321 GB Aws BRT645 BAe146 British CitiExpress SHT2937 B737-500 British Aws From john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 1 09:20:01 2005 From: john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk (john hargreaves) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Mail flights In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050401142001.11858.qmail@web30011.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Titan 146s daystop at Edinburgh and last week were ZAPK and ZAPR on alternate days. I noted ZAPK on March 22 and 24, with ZAPR on March 23. ZAPN was flying for BA Regional on March 24 and departed Edinburgh around teatime. Hope this helps. John H Scott Cooper wrote: Can anyone tell me which aircraft Titan usually use on: AWC74G EGPH-EGGD 2215/2320 12345-- G-ZAPN/ZAPR? AWC63F EGGD-EGPH 2245/2350 12345-- G-ZAPN/ZAPR? and which A300? Channel Express use on . EXS6525 EIDW-EDDK 2030/2250 12345-- EXS6526 EDDK-EIDW 0310/0530 12345-- Anyone know what the rest of the Channex A300 fleet does, I have EXS6565 EGNX-EDDK 2105/2315 12345-- G-CEXH EXS6566 EDDK-EGNX 0125/0320 -23456- G-CEXH G-CEXK is based at EGSS .but what does it do? And also what do G-CEXI/J do in a week? Does anyone know what each Channex B733 does on a night? Are these right .?? EXS01A EGAA-EGNX 1825/1910 12345-- G-CELY EXS01B EGNX-EGAA 2005/2050 12345-- G-CELY EXS01C EGAA-EGNX 2150/2235 12345-- G-CELY EXS01D EGNX-EGAA 0015/0100 -23456- G-CELY EXS04E EGPH-EGNX 2205/2255 12345-- G-CELZ EXS04F EGNX-EGPH 0000/0040 -23456- G-CELZ EXS08B EGNT-EGSS 2200/2245 12345-- G-CELW EXS08C EGSS-EGNT 0005/0050 -23456- G-CELW EXS09G EGPH-EGSS 2005/2105 12345-- G-CELR EXS09H EGSS-EGPH 2220/2320 12345-- G-CELR EXS11L EGSS-EGPH 2015/2115 12345-- G-CELP EXS11M EGPH-EGSS 2220/2320 12345-- G-CELP I am making Flightplans for Flight Sim, so any info you could give me I would be very grateful Cheers Scott www.mmemovements.tk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release Date: 29/03/2005 _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 1 09:27:34 2005 From: john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk (john hargreaves) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:27:35 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ; Jet2 aircraft bases Message-ID: <20050401142734.39012.qmail@web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Jet2 bases appear to be as follows- LBA CELA / B / C / D / S / U / V / X plus TF-JXA MAN CELF / G / H/ I / J / K plus TF-ELZ BFS CELE / Y EDI CELZ Thanks to all who replied. John H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 1 09:49:40 2005 From: mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk (Mike Vass) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:49:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD Message-ID: <20050401144940.37377.qmail@web25306.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi guys I will be @ORD on Monday May 2nd for approx 8 hours, I will be staying airside for the duration, I need a good place to view from, I dont want to be in American, I am looking for a handful of EGF Embraers, but I need quite a few of United and TED aircraft, I am looking for a place thats hassle free and that gives good views of arrivals and departures.. Thank you Mike Vass Smile and the world smiles with you. From ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 09:55:10 2005 From: ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk (Ian Banks) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:55:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD References: <20050401144940.37377.qmail@web25306.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017f01c536ca$cd8a1700$86b32252@oemcomputer> Where is ORD????? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Vass" To: "NA spotters" ; "Airline List" ; "CAE" Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD > Hi guys I will be @ORD on Monday May 2nd for approx 8 hours, I will be staying airside for the duration, I need a good place to view from, I dont want to be in American, I am looking for a handful of EGF Embraers, but I need quite a few of United and TED aircraft, I am looking for a place thats hassle free and that gives good views of arrivals and departures.. > > Thank you Mike Vass > > > Smile and the world smiles with you. > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From barrie.ces at virgin.net Fri Apr 1 09:56:56 2005 From: barrie.ces at virgin.net (B & J Tomlinson) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:58:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD In-Reply-To: <017f01c536ca$cd8a1700$86b32252@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Well known to most as Chicago O'Hare... Cheers Jim > Where is ORD????? > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Vass" > To: "NA spotters" ; "Airline List" > ; "CAE" > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:49 PM > Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD > > >> Hi guys I will be @ORD on Monday May 2nd for approx 8 hours, I will be > staying airside for the duration, I need a good place to view from, I dont > want to be in American, I am looking for a handful of EGF Embraers, but I > need quite a few of United and TED aircraft, I am looking for a place thats > hassle free and that gives good views of arrivals and departures.. >> >> Thank you Mike Vass >> >> >> Smile and the world smiles with you. >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From Olly at aol.com Fri Apr 1 09:59:21 2005 From: Olly at aol.com (Olly@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 09:59:26 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD Message-ID: <7e.66a25b7d.2f7ebbc9@aol.com> Ian Chicago O'Hare - Should have been in the subject line. Mark From djw14hpus at yahoo.com Fri Apr 1 10:01:53 2005 From: djw14hpus at yahoo.com (DAVID WINDSOR) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:01:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req-Heathrow visitors center... Message-ID: <20050401150153.78158.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi, early opportunity to visit lhr,this Sat.last time stood under approach near Hatton Cross tube st.but they were landing the opposite way no prob,s as i had my radio with me for the one,s i could not read off.What i would like to know is whats the views like from the visitors center,opening hours,if a charge. regards dave... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 1 10:16:02 2005 From: mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk (Mike Vass) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:16:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper Message-ID: <20050401151602.88392.qmail@web25308.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi I apologise to the moderators of this list, I wasnt even thinking when i put Spotting@ORD in the subject line when infact I should have wrote REQ Spotting at Chicago O Hare International airport Illinois, so if I offended anybody I am sorry. Mike Vass Smile and the world smiles with you. From ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 10:20:41 2005 From: ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk (Ian Banks) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:21:04 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper References: <20050401151602.88392.qmail@web25308.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019a01c536ce$5dafeaa0$86b32252@oemcomputer> I don't think it is a matter of offending anyone, it does help if we know what is wanted, I don't understand a lot of these codes Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Vass" To: "CAE" Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > Hi I apologise to the moderators of this list, I wasnt even thinking when i put Spotting@ORD in the subject line when infact I should have wrote REQ Spotting at Chicago O Hare International airport Illinois, so if I offended anybody I am sorry. > > Mike Vass > > > Smile and the world smiles with you. > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From morley_40 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 10:22:21 2005 From: morley_40 at hotmail.com (Steve Morley) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:22:22 2005 Subject: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin Message-ID: Surely it would be easier for us ALL to ASK if it were OK to spot from a terminal or a "Restricted" area before we start. Terminals weren't built to accomodate spotters and Biggin take a pride in their biz traffic. On my last visit to Biggin, I had permission to go airside and spot provided I did not go any further that the length of the terminal building. And all I had done was to ask at the information desk! ANY spotter who badmouths the security personnel or the police deserves what happens to them. If they say move on,MOVE ON. Those of us who value our spotting should name and shame the idiots who bring our hobby into disrepute. Please, don't let the gobby minority spoil the hobby for the majority of us. Regards Steve Morley >From: "Phil English" >Reply-To: Phil English >To: "Ian Banks" ,"Civil spotters" > >Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:19:47 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from nj1.fxsonet.com ([64.21.61.64]) by MC8-F25.hotmail.com with >Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:20:44 -0800 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=nj1.fxsonet.com)by >nj1.fxsonet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.44)id 1DH68i-0006GS-CW; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 >15:19:40 -0500 >Received: from [217.12.12.200] (helo=smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com)by >nj1.fxsonet.com with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DH68f-0006G2-I7for >CAE@aviationlists.com; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:19:37 -0500 >Received: from unknown (HELO >mycomputer)(phil.english@btinternet.com@81.154.231.21 with login)by >smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 20:19:42 -0000 >X-Message-Info: VggZFA0O60/QN56nnpQBoBy7eYQ3RNF9CyKfHKrg6cw= >References: ><20050331193406.81023.qmail@web86703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><013701c53629$0e8feec0$86b32252@oemcomputer> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 >X-BeenThere: CAE@aviationlists.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5p1 >Precedence: list >List-Id: The Main Civil Aviation Enthusiasts Mailing >List >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: > >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with >any abuse report >X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nj1.fxsonet.com >X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com >X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] >X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aviationlists.com >X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: >CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2005 20:20:44.0241 (UTC) >FILETIME=[1DDE7C10:01C5362F] > >I went to Biggin for my first and only time a couple of years ago, went >into the terminal with no problems, though didn't take any photos. I wasn't >questioned, nor did I see any signs saying it was out of bounds or that >photography was prohibited. > >Phil >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Banks" > >To: "Civil spotters" >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:37 PM >Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin > > >>I always thought that this terminal was out of bounds >>unless flying, at onetime you were not allowed to enter >>past the barrier from the main road >>Ian >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Miller" >> >>To: "BARRY AMBROSE" ; >>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:34 PM >>Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >> >> >>>Hi >>> >>>Don't wish to "rock the boat" but what is wrong with >>>taking pictures through the glass? So long as the >>>individual is not airside I would have thought it was >>>OK. Being verbally rude is not OK though. >>> >>>Please don't take offence... >>> >>>Cheers >>> >>>Stuart >>> >>> >>>--- BARRY AMBROSE wrote: >>> > I have been informed that there is one individual >>> > who continues to cause trouble whilst spotting at >>> > Biggin Hill who drives a red Rover and is normally >>> > seen with another person in the car. Apparently >>> > other spotters have got fed up with this person as >>> > he is constantly upsetting everybody and is doing >>> > nothing to help the spotters cause at Biggin and is >>> > often found in "no-go" areas. Not sure if this is >>> > the same person but somebody has walked into the >>> > main terminal recently and started taking pictures >>> > through the windows. When asked to leave and that it >>> > is not allowed the offending person has become >>> > verbally rude. Does anyone know who this might be? >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Barry Ambrose >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>> > >>> > To read on the web go to >>> > >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>> > >>> > >>> > and click 'CAE Archives' >>> > >>> > To amend your options go to >>> > >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>> > >>> > The homepage can be found at >>> > http://www.aviationlists.com >>> > >>> > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is >>> > at >>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>> > >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>> >>>To read on the web go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>> >>>and click 'CAE Archives' >>> >>>To amend your options go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>> >>>The homepage can be found at >>>http://www.aviationlists.com >>> >>>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >>To read on the web go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >>and click 'CAE Archives' >> >>To amend your options go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >>The homepage can be found at >>http://www.aviationlists.com >> >>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From cpmaint at btconnect.com Fri Apr 1 10:27:53 2005 From: cpmaint at btconnect.com (cpmaint) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:28:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] Info Southend Whats Where 01/04/05 Message-ID: <11db01c536cf$5fcc4580$0201a8c0@yourlr8kjonf0j> Afternoon All This weeks offerings at 1600 ATC Lasham TF-ELL B732 Bay 1 VT-JGJ / N311TZ B738W Bay 2 HZ-MIS B732 Bay 3 G-IGOR B733 Bay 4 Outside ATC Lasham HZ-SNC B727 N512TZ / F-HAXY B757 N312TZ / VT-JGK B738W EI-COH B734 EI-COK B734 Air Livery 1 N309TZ B738W Air Livery 2 G-BSNR 146 TF-JXB MD Stand 4 3 x VH- 748 Northside /Avionacare area SX-BTK ATP Outside Inflite Be advised that according to Phil's e mail the 2 x Air One were diversions and therefore may go at any time- and before anyone asks -I do not not ETD BoB From theranger at freeuk.com Fri Apr 1 10:49:35 2005 From: theranger at freeuk.com (The Ranger) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:49:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req-Heathrow visitors center... In-Reply-To: <20050401150153.78158.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > early opportunity to visit lhr,this Sat.last time > stood under approach near Hatton Cross tube st.but > they were landing the opposite way no prob,s as i had > my radio with me for the one,s i could not read > off.What i would like to know is whats the views like > from the visitors center,opening hours,if a charge. Spotting from the Visitor Centre is usually done from the car parks or approach road and depending on the heat and your spotting optics you should be able to read off on both runways with ease. It is easier when they are landing on the northern runway, and taking off on the southern assuming they are landing from the East. The views from the inside are somewhat limited. As with most facilities of this type you can have as much fun spotting the spotters. There is no charge for entry to the visitors centre and there is a caf?, you might need a trip to the cashpoint first though, there is a McDonalds over the road as well. Depending on how you are travelling to the airport you can get a bus to and from Hatton Cross or the Bus/Coach terminal in the airport and it's free. If you are in a car parking at the Visitors Centre is about ?1.00 per hour I think. Hope of some use Tim From robert.belcher at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 10:54:06 2005 From: robert.belcher at ntlworld.com (Robert Belcher) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:54:47 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Farnborough 1/4 Message-ID: <00b001c536d3$09f97570$02c06d51@robert> noted 1300-1600 CS-DFT C560XL N200UP DA50 N228TM 125 in and out N328BX CL604 N700S TBM700 departed N800PJ GALAXY P4-VVP EMB135BJ VP-BLS PC12 G-LDFM CL604 G-PLAC PA31 G-RDBS C550 OVERSHOOTS G-BBUE AA5 G-RRFC TB20 robert From barrie.ces at virgin.net Fri Apr 1 11:07:05 2005 From: barrie.ces at virgin.net (B & J Tomlinson) Date: Fri Apr 1 11:08:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Manston RA-76518 1/4/05 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all Just got a call to say RA-76518 IL76 is on the ground at Manston at 16:55pm 1/4/05. Don't have an arrival time or ETD, but it had been present for more than an hour apparently Credit to Dave W for his call Cheers Jim Tomlinson From Abuckley82 at aol.com Fri Apr 1 11:23:03 2005 From: Abuckley82 at aol.com (Abuckley82@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 11:23:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: BUDAPEST+BUDAORS 29/30/31-03-05 LONG Message-ID: <1dc.39feebf1.2f7ecf67@aol.com> Hi All, After reading this e-mail it has wetted my appetite to visit Busapest, however before booking it where is the best spotting locations Cheers Andy From ReggieSPotter at aol.com Fri Apr 1 11:33:54 2005 From: ReggieSPotter at aol.com (ReggieSPotter@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 11:34:06 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req-Heathrow visitors center... Message-ID: <9b.5c8ef6d7.2f7ed1f2@aol.com> Tim, You are right about car parking being ?1 per hour up to 5 hours but, most importantly, the maximum charge for a whole day is ?5. Very reasonable. Cheers Bob Smith BHX In a message dated 01/04/2005 16:50:44 GMT Standard Time, theranger@freeuk.com writes: > early opportunity to visit lhr,this Sat.last time > stood under approach near Hatton Cross tube st.but > they were landing the opposite way no prob,s as i had > my radio with me for the one,s i could not read > off.What i would like to know is whats the views like > from the visitors center,opening hours,if a charge. Spotting from the Visitor Centre is usually done from the car parks or approach road and depending on the heat and your spotting optics you should be able to read off on both runways with ease. It is easier when they are landing on the northern runway, and taking off on the southern assuming they are landing from the East. The views from the inside are somewhat limited. As with most facilities of this type you can have as much fun spotting the spotters. There is no charge for entry to the visitors centre and there is a caf?, you might need a trip to the cashpoint first though, there is a McDonalds over the road as well. Depending on how you are travelling to the airport you can get a bus to and from Hatton Cross or the Bus/Coach terminal in the airport and it's free. If you are in a car parking at the Visitors Centre is about ?1.00 per hour I think. Hope of some use Tim _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 1 12:07:13 2005 From: Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk (Steve Barnes) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:12:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV : Newcastle (NCL/EGNT) 01-04-03 at 16.40 Message-ID: <000201c536de$029cd780$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> F-GRZD CRJ.700 EI-DAD B.738 OY-SVB J.31 Regards, Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 From graeme.waterston at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 12:30:22 2005 From: graeme.waterston at ntlworld.com (graeme.waterston) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:32:17 2005 Subject: [CAE] Help Reqd MD11 I/D Message-ID: <004501c536e0$7ded3900$2cf489d9@GWaterston> Can anyone help identify the Martinair MD-11 That has the special livery with huge poppies along the fuselage? MTIA Graeme From alan_meredith at lineone.net Fri Apr 1 12:34:06 2005 From: alan_meredith at lineone.net (Alan Meredith) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:32:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: EDINBURGH 29/03/05 and 30/03/05 Message-ID: <00b901c536e1$39b609a0$6d1f2850@bobo> Hi there, Many thanks for all the swift replies!! He tied up the lot AND I got another useful site to refer to!! (Might well have a quick zap up there myself !) Cheers once again. ALAN M From GEORDIEBOY0511 at aol.com Fri Apr 1 12:50:26 2005 From: GEORDIEBOY0511 at aol.com (GEORDIEBOY0511@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:50:40 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ LONDON CITY AIRPORT 1 APRIL Message-ID: <19b.30eead6c.2f7ee3e2@aol.com> HI ALL COULD ANYONE PLAESE TELL ME THE REGS OF THE FOLLOWONG SEEN TODAY AT LCY: VLM FK50 @ 16:55 VLM FK50 @ 17:00 VLM FK50 @ 17:02 VLM FK50 @ 17:05 CIRRUS ? @ 17:10 CHEERS BILLY From Steven.L.Martin at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 03:53:59 2005 From: Steven.L.Martin at btopenworld.com (Steve Martin) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:50:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Aberdeen 31 Mar 05 Message-ID: <000101c53698$65ab9640$7ade8351@computer> Hi Noted yesterday morning at Aberdeen: ES-NOI An72 Atlantic Airlines G-FIJV L-188 Atlantic Airlines Both the above parked up by Bristow An74 YL-KSB(?) of Ksavia parked by the Tower at 1045 G-CDKA Saab 2000 Eastern G-WLSH AT42 Air Wales Nice to see two jet Antonovs at Aberdeen on one day. Cheers Steve From superspotter at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 10:55:11 2005 From: superspotter at btopenworld.com (Clive) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:50:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG for Le Bourget Friday 01/04/05 Message-ID: Hi All; Just the one visit today and it was very quiet. Seen between 15:30-15:50:- Signature (apron Kilo):- N490QS G4 N6240V Mooney N614AF CL6 (departed) G-BYHM 125 On P1 (disused runway 26):- Nothing On Dassault (apron delta) F-WQBL F2TH F-GKDB F20 F-GSER F50 F-GNMF F900 ZS-DAV F900 F-GOAL F50 Dassault Hanger (apron delta):- UR-CCB F20 F-GBTM F20 J469 F20 F-GELT F20 + others not determined Roundhouse (Dassault):- F-GYOL F900 F-GMOT F50 (engine runs) F-HALM F900 F-GHDT F20 (reg not applied) D-BDNL F2TH V5-NAM F900 MM62021 F50 F-GIPH F100 LX-LFB F900 VP-CFL F900 + others not determined On Citation centre/Omega (apron echo):- N560AG Ce560 F-GIXB B737 F-GIXJ B737 D-IPVD Ce525 F-GRNB B737 On Euralair (fox 1) VP-CKN 125 HZ-OFC4 F900 On Privatair (fox 2):- Nothing Beside Privatair hangar (fox 3):- N721MF B727 G-ROWN B200 YL-MAR 125 Aero Stock (apron N):- F-GPIA ATR-42 Air Enterprise (apron L):- F-GUFP B200 F-HHAM B90 Darta (apron kilo 1):- F-GHOC B200 Leadair (apron Juliet) Nothing Embraer (apron Juliet) Nothing On Universal (apron H):- N1FE BD700 (departed) N426PG CL6 N730LM F900 On Aero Services (apron T):- 201 E-3 5A-DCK Corvette LX-YSL Ce525 F-GGPR B200 F-GSEB B200 F-GPNJ F900 F-GJBZ F50 F-GKBZ F50 F-GPPF F900 F-GYSL F20 F-HAIR F50 D-CWKM B350 On apron G:- P4-YJR B727 Based aircraft (usually hangared):- LX-PAK BD700 LX-ZAK F900 F-GVML BD700 F-GRAK Bell412 LX-FBY CL6 HB-IVM F2TH HB-IVN F2TH F-GPUJ Ce525 F-GZUJ Ce525 F-GGVB F50 F-HAXA F900 F-HBFP 125 F-GNDZ F10 That?s your lot for today! Regards clive. From chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 12:52:21 2005 From: chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com (Chris [AMS/EHAM]) Date: Fri Apr 1 12:52:20 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Schiphol-east 16:00h Message-ID: Hiya, Beautifull sunny day lured me to Schiphol-east: H14 (left-right): PH-BFY 744 KLM (o/c), VIR 744, F-HSEX 744(paintbay). JY-AUA, 742 Air Universal; parked outside (left corner). H32: N535MC, 742 Focus Air (full c/s) Biz apron: PH-EDM N278GA D-CAKE CS-DFR 99-0404 CS-DHI (dep) Regular Phuket service again opby HS-VAC. Bye, Chris. http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=1106 From cabufkes at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 13:16:07 2005 From: cabufkes at hotmail.com (Chris [AMS/EHAM]) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:12:47 2005 Subject: [CAE] [DSML] LOG: Schiphol-east 16:00h Message-ID: <000001c536e6$dfd7ffa0$010aa8c0@Houtman.local> Hiya, Beautifull sunny day lured me to Schiphol-east: H14 (left-right): PH-BFY 744 KLM (o/c), VIR 744, F-HSEX 744(paintbay). JY-AUA, 742 Air Universal; parked outside (left corner). H32: N535MC, 742 Focus Air (full c/s) Biz apron: PH-EDM N278GA D-CAKE CS-DFR 99-0404 CS-DHI (dep) Regular Phuket service again opby HS-VAC. Bye, Chris. http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=1106 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/6iY7fA/5WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/3ysolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ****************************************************** Dit is een bericht van de dutch-spotters mailinglist To unsubscribe Send a mail to: dutch-spotters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List-ADMIN: dutch-spotters-owner@yahoogroups.com Discussielijst: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dutchspotters-discussie Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dutch-spotters/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dutch-spotters-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From CADNCRD at cwctv.net Fri Apr 1 14:14:56 2005 From: CADNCRD at cwctv.net (CADNCRD@cwctv.net) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:14:54 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper Message-ID: <09cec4411180145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> Hi All To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and understand the rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! Cas On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" wrote: From CarolGoodship at aol.com Fri Apr 1 13:24:10 2005 From: CarolGoodship at aol.com (CarolGoodship@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:24:14 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting at Barcelona Message-ID: <19f.30c677ed.2f7eebca@aol.com> Can anyone give me some info on spotting at Barcelona. Thanks Fred From User727730 at aol.com Fri Apr 1 13:48:36 2005 From: User727730 at aol.com (User727730@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:48:37 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Brize Norton Friday 01Apr05 Message-ID: <55.7050bdf0.2f7ef184@aol.com> Noted at 1835L was: N826K Falcon 900EX Regards Graham Mildenhall From leasclose at tiscali.co.uk Fri Apr 1 13:57:25 2005 From: leasclose at tiscali.co.uk (David Stevens) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:57:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting at Barcelona In-Reply-To: <19f.30c677ed.2f7eebca@aol.com> Message-ID: Fred, Assuming that you moved across from the Civil Spotters list then you will know of a place called "the vault". I suggest that you have a look in there as spotting at Barcelona has been covered extensively in the past. David -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com]On Behalf Of CarolGoodship@aol.com Sent: 01 April 2005 19:24 To: CAE@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] Spotting at Barcelona Can anyone give me some info on spotting at Barcelona. Thanks Fred _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From FloridianCeltic at aol.com Fri Apr 1 14:04:28 2005 From: FloridianCeltic at aol.com (FloridianCeltic@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:04:29 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO : EASYJET TO TOULOUSE Message-ID: <92.23f95abb.2f7ef53c@aol.com> Hi All Just been checking the Easyjet site for some good deals to Toulouse. Anyone wishing to go for some Airbus bashing should do it before the middle of June or wait till early September. The reason...The price is into 3 figures!!!!! Normally I pay about ?25 - ?40 for a day trip but in late June , July & August it is sometimes ?100 one way. You have been warned Rgds Darren Matthews From wingmen at tlen.pl Fri Apr 1 14:15:46 2005 From: wingmen at tlen.pl (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Tomek_Kozakowski?=) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:11:12 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: ATR72 D-ANFC Message-ID: <20050401191546.C7D5543E00@rekin8.go2.pl> Hi All, The ATR 72 D-ANFC has been seen and photographed at cargo terminal of Warsaw Okecie airport today carring neutralized Eurowings colors (photo: http://lotnictwo.net/foto.php?id=114915 ). Any idea who its current operator is would be much appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance BRGDS Tomasz ---------------------- Tomek Kozakowski http://lotnictwo.net From CADNCRD at cwctv.net Fri Apr 1 15:17:13 2005 From: CADNCRD at cwctv.net (CADNCRD@cwctv.net) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:17:15 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) Message-ID: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> Mike/All Having returned last weekend from a two week break in Houston which gave me some quality R&R after a traumatic few months on the personal front, my observations are as follows: On the outward trip to Houston from Manchester via Chicago, I managed to log a few from the plane but, after clearing customs, made my way via the inter-terminal train to T1 where my flight to Houston was due to depart. I had my scribble pad and mini-bins with me and even managed to "cop" a couple from the train before I disembarked at T1. My flight was departing from C27 so I decided to wander up B "pier" (for want of a better word) to see what was in before wending my way back to C "pier" and my gate. I had no problem logging with Mk1 eyeball and was even able to use the mini bins where necessary. I stopped off for a McDonalds and stood by a phone booth to log whilst I ate (juggling most of the time!!). B & C houses United/Ted with the odd Delta, American & Air Canada aircraft. I parked myself at my gate and spotted quite happily for the next couple of hours with no hassle at all. Obviously I couldn't get everything (ie what was on cargo) but I put 50 away! On the return journey last Sunday (arriving back early Monday morning) my E170 flight (N640RW - neat aircraft comfy flight!) parked next to the SAS & THY long hauls but again I did a quick reccie of B & C before heading toward T5 for my flight home - had less time here on the return journey but still managed to spot from my gate, this time making mostly American & American Eagle before embarking. The taxi for take off allowed me to gain a few more too so a total or 28 were put away then! All in all no problems at all with spotting. As this was my first trip to the States on my own, I wasn't really sure where to go to get the best views but didn't do too badly! One word of warning! I locked my case (as you do) after being the subject of a random search at Manchester (just my luck!) and then collected and despatched it on its way at Chicago, only to arrive in Houston to find white tape round the case, the strap missing and the locks bust after the National Transportation people had broken into it to inspect the contents! Sadly no comeback on getting them to fork out for a new case so I had to bite the bullet and buy a new one which I didn't lock and didn't get inspected! Ho hum! I know better next time! Hope this helps Cas From kevin at parsons47.fsnet.co.uk Fri Apr 1 14:19:32 2005 From: kevin at parsons47.fsnet.co.uk (Kevin Parsons) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:19:37 2005 Subject: [CAE] FW: [EGHI] LOG Southampton Message-ID: <004001c536ef$bedc9d20$0601a8c0@SAMSUNGV25> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parsons [mailto:Kevin@Parsons47.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 01 April 2005 20:18 To: EGHI@yahoogroups.com Subject: [EGHI] LOG Southampton Noted today OO-VLV FK50 G-CEGP BE200 G-CEGR BE200 G-OETV PA-31 F-GFEO EMB120 G-JEDJ DHC8 G-EMBS EMB145 G-CJAE CIT In Hangar Kev _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EGHI/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: EGHI-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From ajkjarvis at waitrose.com Fri Apr 1 14:32:40 2005 From: ajkjarvis at waitrose.com (Kathleen Jarvis) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:30:40 2005 Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD References: <20050401144940.37377.qmail@web25306.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c536f1$b0c8e020$3ea7bd50@oemcomputer> Mike It rather depends on where you fly in from and what terminal you alight at, on the presumption you in transit! If you're checking in for a flight you will NOT be checked in much more than 2 hours before the flight, and only into the area/gates from which you will fly. Therefore you won't be able to get airside for 8 hours. This was our experience in 2003 - a hell of a lot worse than in 1990 when we could get airside without flying tickets! There were no external places to spot from where all runways could be covered, and if you park anywhere near the remote car parks US police regularly patrol. They are friendly and do understand our hobby, but they will ask for passports, check them and then move you on anyway. It is possible to spot under one of the approaches in a nearby industrial estate, but as mentioned it will only cover one runway, when there will be at least two landing in operation at all times. If you're flying in and can remain airside I suggest that is what you do. Walking from one terminal to another only reveals a handful of airframes at best. Sorry that this is not particularly helpful, but as I say it was very frustrating when we were there in 2003 - had to spend about three hours awaiting the check-in to open, knowing what was going on just a few yards away!!!! Best wishes Tony J. when I was ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Vass To: NA spotters ; Airline List ; CAE Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: [CAE] Spotting @ORD > Hi guys I will be @ORD on Monday May 2nd for approx 8 hours, I will be staying airside for the duration, I need a good place to view from, I dont want to be in American, I am looking for a handful of EGF Embraers, but I need quite a few of United and TED aircraft, I am looking for a place thats hassle free and that gives good views of arrivals and departures.. > > Thank you Mike Vass From ReggieSPotter at aol.com Fri Apr 1 14:30:41 2005 From: ReggieSPotter at aol.com (ReggieSPotter@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:30:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper Message-ID: <147.42d7a84a.2f7efb61@aol.com> I agree. Let's be clear. Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no other airport could!) Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, who are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new spotters to learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep them up. Bob Smith BHX In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, CADNCRD@cwctv.net writes: Hi All To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and understand the rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! Cas On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" wrote: _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 14:40:46 2005 From: ian.d.banks at blueyonder.co.uk (Ian Banks) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:41:30 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper References: <147.42d7a84a.2f7efb61@aol.com> Message-ID: <025f01c536f2$b3c5d700$86b32252@oemcomputer> Bob Your opinion 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so not a new person, find your comments a bit unfair I simply asked a question which some of you replied with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a bit but out by all this. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; CAE@aviationlists.com Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper I agree. Let's be clear. Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no other airport could!) Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, who are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new spotters to learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep them up. Bob Smith BHX In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, CADNCRD@cwctv.net writes: Hi All To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and understand the rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! Cas On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" wrote: _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From gulf5 at mbhx.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 1 14:42:35 2005 From: gulf5 at mbhx.freeserve.co.uk (Gulf5) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:42:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV :- BIRMINGHAM GENERAL AVIATION VISITORS Message-ID: <011401c536f2$f48cc960$daf44d51@your1p37d9kihs> Hi all, completing March's GA movements. 18/ CS-DNG Ce650 (NJE 758P/175M) 0911/1048 EI-SNJ Bell 407 EI-MIT A109 EI-TIP Bell 430 EI-EUR EC12 G-MOMO A109 N562ME CL601 1105/ovnt1136 EI-IRE CL604 1633/1709 G-PTRE TB10 OE-GBB D328 (TYW 552) G-OACG Pa34 (CEG 939) G-BMJT Be76 DEP VP-BKZ G-5 @ 0703 LX-IMS LJ45 @ 1315 19/ N41AK Be90 20/ N709EL Be400 1329/1344 G-OLDJ LJ45 (GDA 95C/D) 1524/1621 G-OMNH Be200 (SVH 21) 21/ CS-DFS Ce560XL (NJE 038Q/504P) 1034/1151 EI-WGV G-5 (EFF 005) 1849/???? G-FISH Ce310 (EDC 222) 22/ F-GLYC Ce560 0652/1903 OO-SKV Ce560 (SKS 513) 0810/1625 G-CCWY PC-12 VP-BKZ G-5 1144/ovnt/24th/0805 G-BPPM Be200 (GMA 577) N966H Da900 1639/ovnt/1516 CS-DNW HS125 (NJE 635F/329P) 1655/1807 G-CJAA HS125 1738/ovnt/1408 N302PC CL601 1954/ovnt/24th/1529 23/ N709EL Be400 0754/0818 + 1412/1431 G-ESLH A109 N771SC Be200 24/ VP-BKZ G-5 1221/1316 CS-DFE F2TH (NJE 134P/713Q) 1552/1852 25/ HB-IDJ CRJ (FPG 352) 0701/0913 N823TT Be400 1056/1155 OE-IWP ERJ 1738/ovnt/27th/0925 G-NETA Ce560XL (OXE 178) 2002/ovnt/0834 26/ VP-BKZ G-5 1049/1526 27/ Nothing ADD ONE HOUR TO TIMES 28/ VP-BKZ G-5 1425/ovnt/1049 G-LIDE Pa31 (EMX 07A) G-BYCP Be200 (LNX 321) 29/ G-BYCP Be200 (LNX 321) LN-MOI Be200 (LTR 81) OY-NPD SW-4 (NFA 122E) G-JPAL AS355 D-EEAY R-90R 30/ N709EL Be400 0747/0812 + 2057/2112 G-JPSX Da900 0750/0850 OE-GEG Ce560XL (JAG 442) 0758/1550 VP-CGE Ce650 0806/0828 G-BSYC Pa32 CS-DNV HS125 (NJE 017P/701F) 1127/1220 31/ HB-VNJ HS125 1113/ovnt/fri p.m Rgds Mick From kelvinx at lycos.com Fri Apr 1 14:46:21 2005 From: kelvinx at lycos.com (kelvin cross) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:46:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log East Midlands 1-Apr-2005 Message-ID: <20050401194621.E82C830E7DF@ws7-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Seen today:- East Apron G-CEXH A300 Channel Express Main Apron G-BYAI B752 Britannia G-CEAC B732 Palmair (European) G-IGOK B733 Easyjet G-OOAV A321 First Choice G-RJXB E145 bmi OO-TME Learjet OY-LGI Learjet West Apron N703GC MD11 Gemini YL-KSB AN74 YL-RAB AN26 Cheers Kelvin From CADNCRD at cwctv.net Fri Apr 1 15:50:00 2005 From: CADNCRD at cwctv.net (CADNCRD@cwctv.net) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:49:59 2005 Subject: [CAE] USA trip 13.03.05-28.3.05 & REQS (Longish!) Message-ID: <0a6722546190145DTVMAIL10@smtp.cwctv.net> Hi All I actually made two in Manchester before I boarded BD705 to Chicago! I was met in Houston by current IAH resident and very good friend Nick Howard who insisted we have a quick look at what was in from car park level 8 on A/B garage - 35 aircraft logged and copped in 10 minutes! The next day was spent at Houston and the piece de resistance was HR-PHO a Westwind - my thanks to John (formerly of Heathrow & now of Bournemouth) for reading it off with his scope. Scopes aren't advisable at IAH and we did get investigated a couple of times but after showing ID and me showing my TAESS pass, we had no further problems. Fortunately the Weswind remained outside Garratt's hangar to enable Nick to make it after work! The following two days were spent between Intercontinental & Hobby before I ventured over to Galveston. After visiting the Lone Star Museum (the Confederate Flying Museum) which is next to Galveston Municipal Airport, I had a quick look round. XA-KKK Ljt25 entered the log before I noticed two Twin Otters in front of the far hangar. These turned out to be ex-China Flying Dragon Special Aviaion Co (Fellong Airlines) B-3501 & B-3504. The latter looked as though it was going to be registered N564DH. All these registrations were very difficult to read - nice to see though! Friday thru Sunday saw Nick & I head to Love Field then on to Dallas Forth Worth (Friday) meeting up with Mike Vass at DFW. On the Saturday we had a quick tour of DFW before heading to Meacham where we also had a personal guided tour of their museum (mostly military/) by one of the veterans - very interesting & informative. REQ: there is a Spirit DC9 at the main part of the airport which we could find no id on - can anyone assist please? Also a second Spirit DC9 N969?? Again any tie up would be gratefully received. We then went on to Alliance before heading for Ardmore and the promise of quite a lot of "defunct" aircraft. Ah! Mistake! When I was last there about 9 years ago, there were wall to wall planes and we even got a trip up the control tower to get those we couldn't see from the ground! These days the control tower seems shut, there are no aircraft (we only logged a Learjet & a "tin"!) and the runway is now used for truck driving training! :-(( Suitably disappointed we then headed for Lawton (no stored American Eagle Saabs sadly) and then to Wichita Falls before our ultimate goal of Abilene and some, hopefully, of my missing American Eagle S340s which were reputed to be stored there. We weren't disappointed! After overnighting in Abilene we toured Dyess AFB (putting 10 B1Bs away) before heading to the Municipal Airport & the Saabs. 36 are stored there and we saw a couple more, currently still in use (if anyone wants a list of these please let me know). I made 19 of the stored Saabs and also N222NE which may be destined for the scrapyard! Brownwood, McGregor Executive Airport & Waco were visited before we spent a couple of fruitful hours at San Antonio parked in a store's car park before darkness fell. P4-TSO was seen from the terminal car park (ex G-VBEE still in mostly Virgin colours) REQ: there is a wreck of a BAC1-11 which AeroData has as either N333GB or N650DH - can anyone please positively confirm which one it is? The second week was split between spotting at Intercontinental and Hobby and sightseeing. Nick & I met up with Alison (another Manchester spotter) and Mike Vass once again before I had to return home. At present around 1400 aircraft made - subject to marking up of course! If anyone can help out with my requests I would be extremely grateful. Kind Regards Cas From ReggieSPotter at aol.com Fri Apr 1 14:50:51 2005 From: ReggieSPotter at aol.com (ReggieSPotter@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:50:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper Message-ID: <7e.66a727e8.2f7f001b@aol.com> Ian, Sorry if you feel 'but' out by my comments. I certainly didn't meant to offend but my point is that, in your case for example, to learn the three lettter code for the world's biggest airport after 50 years of spotting, whether or not you have been there, is a reasonable expectation. Perhaps I am expect too much, in which case, I apologise. Bob In a message dated 01/04/2005 20:42:58 GMT Standard Time, ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk writes: Bob Your opinion 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so not a new person, find your comments a bit unfair I simply asked a question which some of you replied with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a bit but out by all this. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; CAE@aviationlists.com Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper I agree. Let's be clear. Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no other airport could!) Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, who are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new spotters to learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep them up. Bob Smith BHX In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, CADNCRD@cwctv.net writes: Hi All To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and understand the rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! Cas On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" wrote: _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From ger.buskermolen at casema.nl Fri Apr 1 14:58:37 2005 From: ger.buskermolen at casema.nl (Ger Buskermolen) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:54:54 2005 Subject: [CAE] Help Reqd MD11 I/D References: <004501c536e0$7ded3900$2cf489d9@GWaterston> Message-ID: <003d01c536f5$3aab00e0$38345153@computer> Graeme, That is MD11 PH-MCU and the huge poppies are roses and the ship is named "Prinses Maxima" Greetings, Ger ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "graeme.waterston" Aan: Verzonden: vrijdag 1 april 2005 19:30 Onderwerp: [CAE] Help Reqd MD11 I/D Can anyone help identify the Martinair MD-11 That has the special livery with huge poppies along the fuselage? MTIA Graeme From a.hilliard at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 14:53:36 2005 From: a.hilliard at btopenworld.com (Rotorblades) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:54:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: RADIO Gatwick 1/4 Message-ID: <004b01c536f4$ad3e0450$793e7ad5@main1> 1505-1550 ISS3538 A319 Meridiana outbound MON715 A321 Monarch AUR604 ATR72 Aurigny BEE944J BAe146 FlyBe BAL995P B767 Britannia TAP348 A321 TAP Air Portugal EXS903 B737-300 Jet2/Channel Express BAW2887 B737 British Aws GHCSL PA34 Southern Flight Centre EGMC-EGKA EZY5383 Easyjet outbound SHT2963 B737-300 British Aws BAW2738 British Aws outbound MON865P A320 Monarch BEE911G BAe146 FlyBe outbound EZY5135 Easyjet outbound BAW8116 B737-400 British Aws BAW2578 British Aws outbound EZY5HC A319 Easyjet BEE969C BAe146 FlyBe SHT2939 A319 British Aws BEE912G BAe146 FlyBe WOW05C DHC8 Air Southwest 1620-1625 BAW2853 British Aws BTI655 B737-500 Air Baltic FCA369D B757 First Choice GBL7RS A320 GB Aws From md69 at md69.co.uk Fri Apr 1 14:56:39 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [CAE] ORG: Spotting at Chicago O'Hare Message-ID: <424DA777.90709@md69.co.uk> Can we please now only offer constructive comments about spotting at this field? Yes, the FAQ's state that 3 letter codes should only be used in the subject line when accompanied by the full field name, but Mike went a little too far in adding the state into his grovelling mail to Paul (sic) H. There is a wealth of info on the 'net about these 3 letter codes, and also websites in the Vault pointing to various places. For those who are not familiar with them (and would like to gain some more knowledge on them), please visit the Vault (address at the foot of every mail on this list). MD From s.hart at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 14:59:26 2005 From: s.hart at ntlworld.com (Steve) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:59:23 2005 Subject: [CAE] Info Southend Whats Where 01/04/05 References: <11db01c536cf$5fcc4580$0201a8c0@yourlr8kjonf0j> Message-ID: <011701c536f5$4fff0e50$cc996451@stephenjq7fjhb> dont mean to be awkward,,,but. where does lasham end ,and southend begin please. regards steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "cpmaint" To: ; ; Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [CAE] Info Southend Whats Where 01/04/05 Afternoon All This weeks offerings at 1600 ATC Lasham TF-ELL B732 Bay 1 VT-JGJ / N311TZ B738W Bay 2 HZ-MIS B732 Bay 3 G-IGOR B733 Bay 4 Outside ATC Lasham HZ-SNC B727 N512TZ / F-HAXY B757 N312TZ / VT-JGK B738W EI-COH B734 EI-COK B734 Air Livery 1 N309TZ B738W Air Livery 2 G-BSNR 146 TF-JXB MD Stand 4 3 x VH- 748 Northside /Avionacare area SX-BTK ATP Outside Inflite Be advised that according to Phil's e mail the 2 x Air One were diversions and therefore may go at any time- and before anyone asks -I do not not ETD BoB _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net Fri Apr 1 15:05:14 2005 From: raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net (Raymond Lancaster) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:05:21 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper References: <7e.66a727e8.2f7f001b@aol.com> Message-ID: <003501c536f6$1e1f4e30$0100000a@SHUTTLEMAN> What has knowing airport codes got to do with plane spotting? Do the various registers have the airport codes in? None that I use do. If you travel abroad and have the time to study your baggage tags, then yes you will learn the codes. Not all of us can afford to go abroad, so just use a bit of common. Ray (#1A shuttleman) a 57 year old fogie. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > Ian, > Sorry if you feel 'but' out by my comments. > I certainly didn't meant to offend but my point is that, in your case > for example, to learn the three lettter code for the world's biggest > airport > after 50 years of spotting, whether or not you have been there, is a > reasonable expectation. Perhaps I am expect too much, in which case, I > apologise. > Bob > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 20:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > Bob > Your opinion > 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' > having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so not > a > new person, find your comments a bit unfair > I simply asked a question which some of you replied > with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more > tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone > against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a > bit but > out by all this. > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com > To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; > CAE@aviationlists.com > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > > I agree. Let's be clear. > > Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the > world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no > other > airport could!) > > Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). > > Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, > who > are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for > their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new > spotters to > learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). > > Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep > them up. > > Bob Smith > BHX > > > > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, > CADNCRD@cwctv.net > writes: > Hi All > > To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of > spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and > understand the > rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. > > We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! > > Cas > > > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" > > wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From ReggieSPotter at aol.com Fri Apr 1 15:21:18 2005 From: ReggieSPotter at aol.com (ReggieSPotter@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:21:24 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper Message-ID: <15.41ef4733.2f7f073e@aol.com> I give in. Your logic defeats me. I'll get my coat! Bob In a message dated 01/04/2005 21:05:49 GMT Standard Time, raymond.lancaster1@virgin.net writes: What has knowing airport codes got to do with plane spotting? Do the various registers have the airport codes in? None that I use do. If you travel abroad and have the time to study your baggage tags, then yes you will learn the codes. Not all of us can afford to go abroad, so just use a bit of common. Ray (#1A shuttleman) a 57 year old fogie. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > Ian, > Sorry if you feel 'but' out by my comments. > I certainly didn't meant to offend but my point is that, in your case > for example, to learn the three lettter code for the world's biggest > airport > after 50 years of spotting, whether or not you have been there, is a > reasonable expectation. Perhaps I am expect too much, in which case, I > apologise. > Bob > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 20:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > Bob > Your opinion > 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' > having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so not > a > new person, find your comments a bit unfair > I simply asked a question which some of you replied > with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more > tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone > against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a > bit but > out by all this. > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com > To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; > CAE@aviationlists.com > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > > I agree. Let's be clear. > > Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the > world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no > other > airport could!) > > Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). > > Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, > who > are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for > their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new > spotters to > learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). > > Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep > them up. > > Bob Smith > BHX > > > > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, > CADNCRD@cwctv.net > writes: > Hi All > > To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of > spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and > understand the > rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. > > We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! > > Cas > > > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" > > wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From s.hart at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 15:21:29 2005 From: s.hart at ntlworld.com (Steve) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:21:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper References: <7e.66a727e8.2f7f001b@aol.com> <003501c536f6$1e1f4e30$0100000a@SHUTTLEMAN> Message-ID: <01b201c536f8$64d16140$cc996451@stephenjq7fjhb> maybe reggiespotter should become airport3lettercodespotter. ive been spotting for 30 yrs,and have no interest in 3 or 4 letter airport codes. steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Lancaster" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > What has knowing airport codes got to do with plane spotting? > > Do the various registers have the airport codes in? None that I use do. If > you travel abroad and have the time to study your baggage tags, then yes > you will learn the codes. Not all of us can afford to go abroad, so just > use a bit of common. > > > Ray (#1A shuttleman) > a 57 year old fogie. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > >> >> Ian, >> Sorry if you feel 'but' out by my comments. >> I certainly didn't meant to offend but my point is that, in your >> case >> for example, to learn the three lettter code for the world's biggest >> airport >> after 50 years of spotting, whether or not you have been there, is a >> reasonable expectation. Perhaps I am expect too much, in which case, I >> apologise. >> Bob >> >> In a message dated 01/04/2005 20:42:58 GMT Standard Time, >> ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk writes: >> >> Bob >> Your opinion >> 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' >> having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so >> not a >> new person, find your comments a bit unfair >> I simply asked a question which some of you replied >> with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more >> tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone >> against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a >> bit but >> out by all this. >> Ian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com >> To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; >> CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper >> >> >> I agree. Let's be clear. >> >> Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in >> the >> world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no >> other >> airport could!) >> >> Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). >> >> Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, >> who >> are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters >> for >> their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new >> spotters to >> learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). >> >> Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep >> them up. >> >> Bob Smith >> BHX >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, >> CADNCRD@cwctv.net >> writes: >> Hi All >> >> To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of >> spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and >> understand the >> rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. >> >> We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! >> >> Cas >> >> >> >> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From Brentford2 at aol.com Fri Apr 1 15:31:03 2005 From: Brentford2 at aol.com (Brentford2@aol.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:31:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] (Request) British Airways Airbus Message-ID: <1f2.6bf3b56.2f7f0987@aol.com> Hi All, Is there a web page that I can use to tell me what A319/A321 BA currently have operating. Thank you Mark From john.hallworth1 at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 15:40:38 2005 From: john.hallworth1 at ntlworld.com (John Hallworth) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:40:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] (Request) British Airways Airbus References: <1f2.6bf3b56.2f7f0987@aol.com> Message-ID: <01d401c536fb$106c4770$0402a8c0@JohnsLaptop> Hi Mark Try this http://www.avnclub.demon.co.uk/ Click on the "summary By Aircraft type" link. HTH John.H. Fly Straight,With Perfection.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: [CAE] (Request) British Airways Airbus > Hi All, > > Is there a web page that I can use to tell me what A319/A321 BA currently > have operating. > > Thank you > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 From kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk Fri Apr 1 15:46:13 2005 From: kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk (Gordon Spence) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:46:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:-Glasgow/EGPF FRI 01/04/2005 Message-ID: <000a01c536fb$d89790b0$88c42b50@Gordon> Hi all, 1st visit noted at Glasgow today was:- A6-EMI B777-2 "UAE25/26" 1226/1424 Stand 30 Cheers GS For full logs visit www.egpf.vze.com From mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Apr 1 15:47:03 2005 From: mvassy01 at yahoo.co.uk (Mike Vass) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:47:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] ORG: Spotting at Chicago O'Hare In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050401204704.83884.qmail@web25302.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Excuse me Martin but I was not grovelling and NEVER WILL, I have been sending weekly reports and sometimes daily too from DFW that is DALLAS FORT-WORTH International Airport Dallas TX USA for the past 18 months and not one time did anyone EVER comment on it, so why the big deal now, I understand the rules and I have APOLOGISED, I try to help people who come to TX thats TEXAS by the way so they have a fair idea what frequents the airports, I thought this list was about sharing information and not criticising it!!! Mike Vass Martin Dennett wrote: Can we please now only offer constructive comments about spotting at this field? Yes, the FAQ's state that 3 letter codes should only be used in the subject line when accompanied by the full field name, but Mike went a little too far in adding the state into his grovelling mail to Paul (sic) H. There is a wealth of info on the 'net about these 3 letter codes, and also websites in the Vault pointing to various places. For those who are not familiar with them (and would like to gain some more knowledge on them), please visit the Vault (address at the foot of every mail on this list). MD _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links Smile and the world smiles with you. From jetnash at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 15:54:38 2005 From: jetnash at gmail.com (Terry Nash) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:54:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Cactus Wings News, 01Apr-2005 Message-ID: <342d4a1205040112544a735502@mail.gmail.com> Cactus Wings News 01Apr-2005 News items ========== * Ex-Southwest B737-200 N104SW [23110], currently at Mojave, was noted painted in TranSky colors on 26Mar-2005. * Ex-United B737-500 N956UA [26704], currently at Tucson, has been sold to Air Malawi. * Ex-United B737-300s N323UA [23955] and N324UA [23956], previously stored at Victorville, departed on 31Mar-2005 to San Jose, Costa Rica. * Ex-Continental Express ATR-42s N15823 [165] and N16824 [166], currently stored at Roswell, have been sold to UTAir (Russia). Deliveries ========== 30Mar N931LR CRJ9 [15031] to Mesa Air at Phoenix 31Mar N207WN B73G [34012] to Southwest at Phoenix 01Apr N675AW A320 [2405] to America West at Phoenix Logs ===== Phoenix (PHX) ----- 27Mar N948MA MD87 Allegiant 29Mar N355MC B743 Polar Air Cargo (Thx Mike & Steve) Williams-Gateway (IWA), 28Mar-2005 ----- N315FV MD83 a/w - Op for JPATS RA82042 A124 Volga-Dnepr 97-0043 C-17 USAF 08-0054 C-17 USAF Tucson (TUS), 31Mar-2005 Hamilton Aerospace (update only) ------------------ N225US B732 Ryan Int'l c/s (fleur-de-lis logo) N? MD82 Ryan Int'l c/s (stylized R/eagle logo) N905TA MD82 N978PG MD82 basic Air Liberte c/s, AVIATION FLEET SOLUTIONS titles N956UA B735 basic United c/s Pima College -- C-GGMP DHC8 deHavilland c/s - ramp N115FE B727 basic FedEx c/s - ramp N4NA G1 basic NASA c/s - parking lot N903RC B732 ex Lorair, previously WFU/derelict, is now gone. OB-1547 B727 AeroPeru - inside hangar, visible from front windows P4-MED L1011 Flying Hospital - ramp nearby Elsewhere -- N17773 B72S pvt - pkd cargo ramp N330E SH330 - GA ramp N67134 B757 Continental - winglet testbed N777VV Se210 - Moved to SE hardstand, WFU from fire training XA-ADD Do28 - Carga Express Intl - exec ramp Aircraft movements ================== 26Mar N833CA B190 ICT-MZJ-MEZ DAL9900 B732 ATL-VCV RTN170 B190 MZJ-ICT 29Mar APW345 DC86 MIA-ROW AWE7825 B757 PHX-GYR UAL9943 B767 SFO-VCV N603UA 30Mar N17773 B72S COS-TUS - Colorado Rockies charter N698SS B72S DAL-GYR - Texas Rangers charter N792FT DC87 TUS-MCC N905RA MD90 airtest MZJ N978PG MD82 EDW-TUS - Aviation Fleet Solutions titles AAH100 B73G SNA-GYR AAY9948 MD80 LAS-GYR FAO9999 B733 TUS-RME 31Mar N323UA B733 VCV-SJO N324UA B733 VCV-SJO* N698SS B72S GYR-ABQ RTN170 B190 MZJ-ICT 01Apr RYN6001 B732 TUS-ICT* N225US UAL9911 B763 SFO-MZJ * - planned movement Any tie-ups on the above, or anything I may have missed, would be appreciated. It helps keep my database and the Cactus Wings website up to date. Codes can be translated at The Airline Codes Website: http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/ -- Terry J. Nash jetnash@cactuswings.com Cactus Wings aviation . photography . research www.cactuswings.com -- From adderman at globalnet.co.uk Fri Apr 1 15:54:39 2005 From: adderman at globalnet.co.uk (Mike Spence-Parsons) Date: Fri Apr 1 15:54:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log?+ req Gamston 1-4-5 Message-ID: <01d401c536fd$063fafb0$afa6bd50@michaels> Hi Folks Rather brief log from a layby on the A1 overlooking Gamston. Only thing readable was G-SGEC Ka200 BB-1747. Reqs. CitationJet 2 in hangar near tower. Metalic blue H369 at east end of field. Bell 47 with day-glo boom outside on main ramp. B rgds Mike Parsons From jprice_stephens at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 16:03:04 2005 From: jprice_stephens at hotmail.com (John Price-Stephens) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:03:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Info on two biz seen recently Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Two biz seen recently and for which I can find no details of c/ns as yet - any help to identify them gratefully received. 1. Frankfurt 30.3 was a Citation which I poled as CS-DFV? 2. Stansted today was a Gulf 5? P4-AAA. Only excuse offered was that the heat haze at the former made it difficult to scope the GA pan and I was in a hurry at Stansted this a.m. !! Thanks John From andy at mac62a.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 1 16:03:09 2005 From: andy at mac62a.freeserve.co.uk (andy mac) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:03:06 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Eccles Hall, Quidenham, Norfolk 01Apr05 Message-ID: <018a01c536fe$35c408c0$0100a8c0@yourg2asvv4l2m> Balloons lifting out this evening were... GBYOK GTHOM GINSR GLELE GBRUV GBSMM GSUED GFUSE GBVRU GBYSV GBZRX GORPR GBHHN Cheers, Andy Mac. From pauljay at home.nl Fri Apr 1 16:06:28 2005 From: pauljay at home.nl (Paul J. Hooper) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:06:28 2005 Subject: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper References: <15.41ef4733.2f7f073e@aol.com> Message-ID: <012001c536fe$ad5b1db0$0300a8c0@cp288262a> Let's cut this out and take a look at the FAQs!! Paul (with one L!) Paul J. Hooper, CAE List head honcho, and pedant! pauljay@home.nl www.yankee44.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 22:21 Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > I give in. Your logic defeats me. I'll get my coat! > Bob > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 21:05:49 GMT Standard Time, > raymond.lancaster1@virgin.net writes: > > What has knowing airport codes got to do with plane spotting? > > Do the various registers have the airport codes in? None that I use do. If > you travel abroad and have the time to study your baggage tags, then yes you > will learn the codes. Not all of us can afford to go abroad, so just use a > bit of common. > > > Ray (#1A shuttleman) > a 57 year old fogie. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > > > > > Ian, > > Sorry if you feel 'but' out by my comments. > > I certainly didn't meant to offend but my point is that, in your case > > for example, to learn the three lettter code for the world's biggest > > airport > > after 50 years of spotting, whether or not you have been there, is a > > reasonable expectation. Perhaps I am expect too much, in which case, I > > apologise. > > Bob > > > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 20:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > > ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > > > Bob > > Your opinion > > 'Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will)' > > having never been to the States and have spotted since the fifties so not > > a > > new person, find your comments a bit unfair > > I simply asked a question which some of you replied > > with the info which I thank them, so please be a bit more > > tollerant, I thought we were here to help others, if my e-mail has gone > > against the group rules I am sorry to you all and the Mods. but I am a > > bit but > > out by all this. > > Ian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ReggieSPotter@aol.com > > To: CADNCRD@cwctv.net ; ian.d.banks@blueyonder.co.uk ; > > CAE@aviationlists.com > > > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper > > > > > > I agree. Let's be clear. > > > > Fact: ORD is the industry three letter code of the busiest airport in the > > world (ATL might put up a decent argument against that statement but no > > other > > airport could!) > > > > Opinion: Any spotter worth his/her salt would know that (or soon will). > > > > Suggestion: Any new spotters will soon learn from the serious spotters, > > who > > are the majority on the list. Let's not chastise the serious spotters for > > their knowledge of the aviation industry but let's encourage the new > > spotters to > > learn (quickly, coz this is a serious hobby!). > > > > Comment: Mike, thanks for your fantastic reports to date and please keep > > them up. > > > > Bob Smith > > BHX > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 01/04/2005 19:16:01 GMT Standard Time, > > CADNCRD@cwctv.net > > writes: > > Hi All > > > > To be fair to Mike, my view on this one is that the vast majority of > > spotters should know where ORD is, although I do fully appreciate and > > understand the > > rule that the full airport name should be put in the subject header. > > > > We all make mistakes and get carried away on occasions! > > > > Cas > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:20:41 +0100 "Ian Banks" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > > > To read on the web go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > > > To amend your options go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > The homepage can be found at > > http://www.aviationlists.com > > > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > > > To read on the web go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > > > To amend your options go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > The homepage can be found at > > http://www.aviationlists.com > > > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > > > To read on the web go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > > > To amend your options go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > The homepage can be found at > > http://www.aviationlists.com > > > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From andy at mac62a.freeserve.co.uk Fri Apr 1 16:46:48 2005 From: andy at mac62a.freeserve.co.uk (andy mac) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:46:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG/REQ Old Buckenham/EGSV 01Apr05 Message-ID: <031c01c53704$4e80fc00$0100a8c0@yourg2asvv4l2m> a short visit here after the balloons had lifted gave us.. GBOHJ C152, GAZVB Bo209 GNINC PA28, GAWET PA28 GELLA PA32R, GTAMS BE23 GBHDZ C172, GBMYC TB10 GNINA PA28, GOART PA23 GBAXJ PA32, GKATS PA28 GBCWO BN2, GBUUD T67 In the hangar next to the main one where the above residents were seen, a blue + white Robin was noted on maint. in the large 1/2 round hangar next to the fire station, the following could be made out through gaps - blue/yellow Stearman yellow Cub N5646? Maule S5-??? Jungmann and another yellow winged biplane in the corner seen departing was a LET410, which we were told departed to Headcorn. For those who haven't been there before, please ask for permission for access in the flying club/cafe/bar/reception. They are friendly there and will help you if possible. tks + regds, Andy Mac. From kenpierce at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 16:51:04 2005 From: kenpierce at btopenworld.com (Kenneth Pierce) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:50:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Benson 1/4/05 Message-ID: <014c01c53704$e790a3a0$0200a8c0@ken> HI all, Noted at Benson this afternoon were the following based Grobs G-BYUP G-BYVL G-BYVP G-BYVU G-BYWA G-BYXR Does anyone have an up to date list of the RAF Grobs bases? Ken From egkb at btconnect.com Fri Apr 1 16:53:52 2005 From: egkb at btconnect.com (egkb) Date: Fri Apr 1 16:53:50 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Biggin Hill 1-Apr-05 Message-ID: <424dc2f0.ae.4592.24667@btconnect.com> Following noted today straight from my notebook G-BWHF PA-31 Navajo - Arrived 1209 Tower apron G-BZOG Dornier 328 - Arrived 1523 SAY583 Tower apron G-CPFC Cessna F152 - Arrived 1103 G-FRYI Super King Air 200 - 1149 to 1220 LNX430P/430A Tower apron G-MKSS BAe 125-700B - Arrived 1147 G-NORT Robinson R-22 - Departed 1057 G-OLDF Learjet 45 - Arrived 1322 GDA39B G-PPLC Citation V - Arrived 1317 had departed about 20 minutes earlier G-RBSG Falcon 900EX - Departed 0906 VLF76 G-VIPY PA-31 Navajo - 0957 to 1050 EGL999/998 Tower apron LX-AKI Falcon 50EX - 1234 to 1438 SVW401K/401K Tower apron N123DU PA-28 Cherokee - Arrived 1506 Tower apron Lydd diversion N235PF PA-28 Cherokee - Overflight 1432 to Southend N295S PA-46 Malibu - Arrived 1108 Tower apron to night stop VP-CCO Citation II - Departed 1154 returned 1212 33/XA TBM-700 - 1152 to just after 1400 CTM1306/1306 Tower apron Nigel Burch Biggin Hill Spotters Website Feb-05 Movements now on line http://uk.geocities.com/bigginhill_uk/ From plane.spotter at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 17:03:54 2005 From: plane.spotter at ntlworld.com (Duane Charles) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:04:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 Message-ID: <20050401220406.NMLQ1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help with a possible mis-pole. I thought I saw YU-DLG on this date, but can't find any record of it. I would be grateful if someone could correct this for me with its type and con number. MTIA Duane Charles From mikkelly at indigo.ie Fri Apr 1 17:11:29 2005 From: mikkelly at indigo.ie (MK) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:11:30 2005 Subject: [CAE] Mov; Dublin Fri 1/4/05 Message-ID: <424DD521.10675.24A9CD@localhost> L's&G Overnighting Fri night.. HA-LOK B737 Malev OK-EGP B737 CSA SP-LDH E170 LOT D-ABIN B737 LH Regards Michael kelly / Dublin From ian_gawtrey at baa.com Fri Apr 1 17:15:41 2005 From: ian_gawtrey at baa.com (ian_gawtrey@baa.com) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:15:46 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG/REQ: Stansted 31/3/05 Message-ID: Hi All. Log for Stansted from 18:00 - 20:00 ZS-AOL GV A40-OMN B747-430 B-KAD B747F DragonAir D-ABAY B737-800 Air Berlin D-AGPB F100 Air Berlin EI-DHD B737-8AS RyanAir EI-DHE B737-8AS RyanAir EI-DHF B737-8AS RyanAir EI-DHG B737-8AS RyanAir EI-OZB A300F Air Contractors. HB-IHX A320 Edelweiss for FR HL7420 B747F Asiana Cargo LN-KKP B737 Norwegian Shuttle PH-XRX B737 Transavia SE-LPR ATP West Air Europe N190WP BD700 9104 N371BC B737BBJ N609FE MD11F FEDEX N888RK C525 525-0331 OE-IWP LEGACY 1450081 Now the REQ. Channel Exp A300F in Cargo Area. UPS B767F Parked next to it. Ian Gawtrey **************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and / or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, the use of this information or any disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. BAA, the world's leading airport company - http://www.baa.com **************************************************************************** From kenpierce at btopenworld.com Fri Apr 1 17:19:33 2005 From: kenpierce at btopenworld.com (Kenneth Pierce) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:19:26 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 References: <20050401220406.NMLQ1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Message-ID: <016101c53708$e1a8cf90$0200a8c0@ken> Well it a UTVA-6 if that of any help. I also have no con no. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Charles" To: "Airfields" ; "Civil Spotters" Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 > Hi there, > > I was wondering if someone could help with a possible mis-pole. > I thought I saw YU-DLG on this date, but can't find any record of it. I > would be grateful if someone could correct this for me with its type and > con > number. > > > > MTIA > > Duane Charles > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From mikkelly at indigo.ie Fri Apr 1 17:28:12 2005 From: mikkelly at indigo.ie (MK) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:28:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] Mov; Due Dublin now 1/4/05 2330 Message-ID: <424DD90C.30208.33F8BF@localhost> L's&G Forgot to mention in my last posting that EC-GMU is due into Dublin at approx 2330 tonight 1/4/05 operating the delayed EI138 from Boston and Shannon Michael kelly / Dublin From dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk Fri Apr 1 17:28:13 2005 From: dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk (Gareth Whitehead) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:28:12 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 In-Reply-To: <016101c53708$e1a8cf90$0200a8c0@ken> Message-ID: <001401c5370a$18157ff0$0100a8c0@DAD> Can't remember which airfield, but it is UK based as well (seen at = Kemble in 2003). HTH Gareth Whitehead -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com = [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Pierce Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:20 PM To: plane.spotter@ntlworld.com; Airfields; Civil Spotters Subject: Re: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 Well it a UTVA-6 if that of any help. I also have no con no. Ken ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Duane Charles" To: "Airfields" ; "Civil Spotters"=20 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 > Hi there, > > I was wondering if someone could help with a possible = mis-pole. > I thought I saw YU-DLG on this date, but can't find any record of it. = I > would be grateful if someone could correct this for me with its type = and=20 > con > number. > > > > MTIA > > Duane Charles > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to=20 > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to=20 > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >=20 _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com=20 and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at=20 http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 =20 From plane.spotter at ntlworld.com Fri Apr 1 17:37:05 2005 From: plane.spotter at ntlworld.com (Duane Charles) Date: Fri Apr 1 17:37:13 2005 Subject: [CAE] FW: REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 Message-ID: <20050401223718.UEGM5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Thanks for the replies. I have now solved the mystery, it wasn't a mis-pole after all Duane _____ From: Duane Charles [mailto:plane.spotter@ntlworld.com] Sent: 01 April 2005 23:04 To: Airfields; Civil Spotters Subject: REQ: Biggin Hill 30th March 2004 Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help with a possible mis-pole. I thought I saw YU-DLG on this date, but can't find any record of it. I would be grateful if someone could correct this for me with its type and con number. MTIA Duane Charles From barrie.ces at virgin.net Fri Apr 1 18:01:47 2005 From: barrie.ces at virgin.net (B & J Tomlinson) Date: Fri Apr 1 18:03:26 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Info on two biz seen recently In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi John P4-AAA is a Global Express reported as c/n 9136 Cheers Jim Tomlinson > Hi Everyone, > > Two biz seen recently and for which I can find no details of c/ns as yet - > any help to identify them gratefully received. > > 1. Frankfurt 30.3 was a Citation which I poled as CS-DFV? > > 2. Stansted today was a Gulf 5? P4-AAA. > > Only excuse offered was that the heat haze at the former made it difficult > to scope the GA pan and I was in a hurry at Stansted this a.m. !! > > Thanks > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From markgerrard at comcast.net Fri Apr 1 18:57:23 2005 From: markgerrard at comcast.net (Mark Gerrard) Date: Fri Apr 1 18:57:18 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) In-Reply-To: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> References: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> Message-ID: <424DDFE2.8020209@comcast.net> But if the security or check-in idiots at MAN had told you as they are supposed, to that you are not allowed to lock your luggage on US flights, you wouldn't be on a wasted mission to get the TSA to reimburse you! CADNCRD@cwctv.net wrote: >Mike/All > >Having returned last weekend from a two week break in Houston which gave me some quality R&R after a traumatic few months on the personal front, my observations are as follows: > >On the outward trip to Houston from Manchester via Chicago, I managed to log a few from the plane but, after clearing customs, made my way via the inter-terminal train to T1 where my flight to Houston was due to depart. I had my scribble pad and mini-bins with me and even managed to "cop" a couple from the train before I disembarked at T1. > >My flight was departing from C27 so I decided to wander up B "pier" (for want of a better word) to see what was in before wending my way back to C "pier" and my gate. I had no problem logging with Mk1 eyeball and was even able to use the mini bins where necessary. I stopped off for a McDonalds and stood by a phone booth to log whilst I ate (juggling most of the time!!). B & C houses United/Ted with the odd Delta, American & Air Canada aircraft. > >I parked myself at my gate and spotted quite happily for the next couple of hours with no hassle at all. Obviously I couldn't get everything (ie what was on cargo) but I put 50 away! > >On the return journey last Sunday (arriving back early Monday morning) my E170 flight (N640RW - neat aircraft comfy flight!) parked next to the SAS & THY long hauls but again I did a quick reccie of B & C before heading toward T5 for my flight home - had less time here on the return journey but still managed to spot from my gate, this time making mostly American & American Eagle before embarking. The taxi for take off allowed me to gain a few more too so a total or 28 were put away then! > >All in all no problems at all with spotting. As this was my first trip to the States on my own, I wasn't really sure where to go to get the best views but didn't do too badly! > >One word of warning! I locked my case (as you do) after being the subject of a random search at Manchester (just my luck!) and then collected and despatched it on its way at Chicago, only to arrive in Houston to find white tape round the case, the strap missing and the locks bust after the National Transportation people had broken into it to inspect the contents! Sadly no comeback on getting them to fork out for a new case so I had to bite the bullet and buy a new one which I didn't lock and didn't get inspected! Ho hum! I know better next time! > >Hope this helps > >Cas > > > >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at >http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > From mjpford at btinternet.com Fri Apr 1 19:01:40 2005 From: mjpford at btinternet.com (mjpford) Date: Fri Apr 1 19:01:41 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log: exeter At midnight. Message-ID: Hi All had a spin round the airport tonight noted where the following. D-CFAX Lear FM Air Ambulance titles, getting ready to depart as I arrived. EC-IEZ 737-300 Hola Airlines G-BTPL ATP Magic Blue, Still with its plasic hat on. G-BUKJ ATP in hanger in front of above. Is this to be Magic Blue No 2 ?? In Front of old hanger Bae 146 Azurra air. Between Hangers: Both Euromanx Bae 146's EI-CPJ & CPK, Both in full c/s. G-BRYJ Dash All white c/s. G-JEAV Bae 146 Flybe, With sister ship U. in hanger. Plus 2x Flybe Dash 8-400's. on terminal. The Skyways Fokker 50 arrived 13:15 this being SE-LIO. Parked on Mail ramp Thats it folks Exeter's Midnight Spotter Martin F. Protected by Panda Anitivirus From morley_40 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 1 19:16:08 2005 From: morley_40 at hotmail.com (Steve Morley) Date: Fri Apr 1 19:16:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin In-Reply-To: <005e01c536f3$83f60b20$36510852@Peter> Message-ID: Peter Surely the moral of this tale is that if you're asked to leave a particular area you do so, without shooting your mouth off. Nothing will be gained by arguing the toss with some petty minded little Hitler who wants to vent his spleen all over you. I know I used to work for one! To answer your questions:- (i) My car was parked in the terminal car park. If there was a barrier I can't remember seeing it, or it was raised. (ii) I do not remember seeing any notices saying the terminal was reserved for passengers. (iii) If I had been asked to leave I would have done so. And washing my dirty linen in public, I have only ever been asked to leave an area where I was spotting, twice. The first was by the Police at Stansted, - I was on the mound overlooking the railway line; and the second time by the Police outside Coventry's new temporary terminal. Both times I complied with the requests straight away and without becoming gobby like some. I value my liberty! We have to realise that after 9/11 the world has changed. Security is bound to be tighter. We as a group should be working with the Police and Airport Security rather than banging on about "the nasty man wouldn't let me park my car in the car park, or let me stand there!" The hobby is changing, the good old days are behind us and we have to deal with a whole new ball game. Grow up! Steve PS Mr Moderator - Isn't it time this topic was shunted off to a forum somewhere and we can gat back to logs and stuff? Rgds Steve Morley >From: "Peter Paine" >To: "Steve Morley" >Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:46:04 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.19]) by >mc3-f15.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 1 Apr 2005 >11:46:39 -0800 >Received: from aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by >mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id ><20050401194638.CBEY2577.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> > for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:46:38 +0100 >Received: from [82.8.81.54] by aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP > id ><20050401194636.LKPQ1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@[82.8.81.54]> > for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:46:36 +0100 >Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.8.4]); Fri, 01 Apr 2005 >20:46:36 +0100 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFG7UvVD2WDNFNBfLITYf3JyR2TqkWCjaM= >References: >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >Return-Path: peterpaine@ntlworld.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2005 19:46:39.0421 (UTC) >FILETIME=[857976D0:01C536F3] > >Steve > >Apart from printing the message which came via head of security and said >it was OK to use the car park next to goldair I think I should print this >as well, because in recent years I have only driven into this part of the >airport when there was something on the grass which I could read off from >the overflow car park on the right just beyond the entrance. More recently, >partly because there are very few visitors parked in this area but mostly >because a security gate has been installed limiting vehicle access to the >the terminal area I have not entered this part of the airport. >Since there have been signs for many years indicating that the area of the >terminal is only for passengers and not for public access I have to ask >were there no signs between the entrance off the main road and the >information desk where you sought airside access (assuming the visit is >fairly recent). >You appear to be naming(and shaming)yourself. So am I! >Since there is no obvious security reason for the new gate to be installed >just beyond the goldair car park,there is another one 200 yards past it, >and coded entry gates for each facility beyond there (so I have been >told)it appears that it is the airport operators who are spoiling the >hobby(BAA are experts) as well as the gobby minority,although you can >understand their annoyance if the head of security says an an area is >available for spotters and the security man on duty tells you to leave that >area, hence printing the earlier message. > >Peter >----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Morley" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:22 PM >Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin > > >>Surely it would be easier for us ALL to ASK if it were OK to spot from a >>terminal or a "Restricted" area before we start. Terminals weren't built >>to accomodate spotters and Biggin take a pride in their biz traffic. >> >>On my last visit to Biggin, I had permission to go airside and spot >>provided I did not go any further that the length of the terminal >>building. And all I had done was to ask at the information desk! >> >>ANY spotter who badmouths the security personnel or the police deserves >>what happens to them. >>If they say move on,MOVE ON. >> >>Those of us who value our spotting should name and shame the idiots who >>bring our hobby into disrepute. >> >>Please, don't let the gobby minority spoil the hobby for the majority of >>us. >> >>Regards >>Steve Morley >> >> >> >>>From: "Phil English" >>>Reply-To: Phil English >>>To: "Ian Banks" ,"Civil spotters" >>> >>>Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >>>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:19:47 +0100 >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Received: from nj1.fxsonet.com ([64.21.61.64]) by MC8-F25.hotmail.com >>>with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:20:44 -0800 >>>Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=nj1.fxsonet.com)by >>>nj1.fxsonet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.44)id 1DH68i-0006GS-CW; Thu, 31 Mar >>>2005 15:19:40 -0500 >>>Received: from [217.12.12.200] (helo=smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com)by >>>nj1.fxsonet.com with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DH68f-0006G2-I7for >>>CAE@aviationlists.com; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:19:37 -0500 >>>Received: from unknown (HELO >>>mycomputer)(phil.english@btinternet.com@81.154.231.21 with login)by >>>smtp810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 20:19:42 -0000 >>>X-Message-Info: VggZFA0O60/QN56nnpQBoBy7eYQ3RNF9CyKfHKrg6cw= >>>References: >>><20050331193406.81023.qmail@web86703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><013701c53629$0e8feec0$86b32252@oemcomputer> >>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 >>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 >>>X-BeenThere: CAE@aviationlists.com >>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5p1 >>>Precedence: list >>>List-Id: The Main Civil Aviation Enthusiasts Mailing >>>List >>>List-Unsubscribe: >>>, >>>List-Archive: >>> >>>List-Post: >>>List-Help: >>>List-Subscribe: >>>, >>>Errors-To: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >>>X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with >>>any abuse report >>>X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nj1.fxsonet.com >>>X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com >>>X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] >>>X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aviationlists.com >>>X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: >>>CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2005 20:20:44.0241 (UTC) >>>FILETIME=[1DDE7C10:01C5362F] >>> >>>I went to Biggin for my first and only time a couple of years ago, went >>>into the terminal with no problems, though didn't take any photos. I >>>wasn't questioned, nor did I see any signs saying it was out of bounds or >>>that photography was prohibited. >>> >>>Phil >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Banks" >>> >>>To: "Civil spotters" >>>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:37 PM >>>Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >>> >>> >>>>I always thought that this terminal was out of bounds >>>>unless flying, at onetime you were not allowed to enter >>>>past the barrier from the main road >>>>Ian >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Miller" >>>> >>>>To: "BARRY AMBROSE" ; >>>>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:34 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [CAE] RE: Security at Biggin >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi >>>>> >>>>>Don't wish to "rock the boat" but what is wrong with >>>>>taking pictures through the glass? So long as the >>>>>individual is not airside I would have thought it was >>>>>OK. Being verbally rude is not OK though. >>>>> >>>>>Please don't take offence... >>>>> >>>>>Cheers >>>>> >>>>>Stuart >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- BARRY AMBROSE wrote: >>>>> > I have been informed that there is one individual >>>>> > who continues to cause trouble whilst spotting at >>>>> > Biggin Hill who drives a red Rover and is normally >>>>> > seen with another person in the car. Apparently >>>>> > other spotters have got fed up with this person as >>>>> > he is constantly upsetting everybody and is doing >>>>> > nothing to help the spotters cause at Biggin and is >>>>> > often found in "no-go" areas. Not sure if this is >>>>> > the same person but somebody has walked into the >>>>> > main terminal recently and started taking pictures >>>>> > through the windows. When asked to leave and that it >>>>> > is not allowed the offending person has become >>>>> > verbally rude. Does anyone know who this might be? >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Barry Ambrose >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>>>> > >>>>> > To read on the web go to >>>>> > >>>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > and click 'CAE Archives' >>>>> > >>>>> > To amend your options go to >>>>> > >>>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>>>> > >>>>> > The homepage can be found at >>>>> > http://www.aviationlists.com >>>>> > >>>>> > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is >>>>> > at >>>>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>>>> >>>>>To read on the web go to >>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>>>> >>>>>and click 'CAE Archives' >>>>> >>>>>To amend your options go to >>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>>>> >>>>>The homepage can be found at >>>>>http://www.aviationlists.com >>>>> >>>>>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>>> >>>>To read on the web go to >>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>>> >>>>and click 'CAE Archives' >>>> >>>>To amend your options go to >>>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>>> >>>>The homepage can be found at >>>>http://www.aviationlists.com >>>> >>>>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>> >>>To read on the web go to >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>> >>>and click 'CAE Archives' >>> >>>To amend your options go to >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>> >>>The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >>> >>>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >>To read on the web go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>and click 'CAE Archives' >> >>To amend your options go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >>The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >> >>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 >> > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 > From kevin at flybhx.co.uk Fri Apr 1 20:09:13 2005 From: kevin at flybhx.co.uk (Kevin Cleaver) Date: Fri Apr 1 20:09:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) In-Reply-To: <424DDFE2.8020209@comcast.net> References: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> <424DDFE2.8020209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050402020759.048edff8@thorin.visn.co.uk> Must be costing the airlines a fortune in claims for theft from luggage KC At 18:57 01/04/2005 -0500, Mark Gerrard wrote: >But if the security or check-in idiots at MAN had told you as they are >supposed, to that you are not allowed to lock your luggage on US flights, >you wouldn't be on a wasted mission to get the TSA to reimburse you! From simonrhills at xtra.co.nz Fri Apr 1 23:14:12 2005 From: simonrhills at xtra.co.nz (Simon Hills) Date: Fri Apr 1 23:14:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] CAE [REQ] Kidlington 1/4/05 circa 11.30 In-Reply-To: <00d501c536c1$44103cb0$216189d9@NEWDORN> Message-ID: <000001c5373a$6d33f680$0301010a@HILLSFAMILY> Hi all VH-KLN is a Gippsland Aeronautics Pty Ltd GA-8 Airvan c/n GA8-04-046 (info from Australian CAA Civil Aircraft Register http://casa.gov.au/casadata/regsearch/findreg47.asp ) Don't know what it is doing at Kidlington though ! It is owned by Gippsland Aeronautics Pty Ltd so don't know if it is on a demo tour If you want to know what a GA8 looks like there are a few on Airliners.net http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?airlinesearch=Gippsland%20A eronautics%20Pty%20Ltd&distinct_entry=true Cheers Simon NZ -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Dave and Heather Hughes Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2005 1:47 a.m. To: CAE@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] CAE [REQ] Kidlington 1/4/05 circa 11.30 Amongst regulars Parked by tower N485LT Hs125 G-CDDT Trinidad Parked amongst others VH-KLN (AIRVAN up fin l/e and 46 on lowere rear fus) G-KOLI PZL-110 Koliber Arrived G-AOFM Auster Autocar Rear of McCalpines G-CDGM Bk-117C G-SURY EC- G-ETHU EC-135 G-LINE Ecuriel G-UEST J/R plus [REQ] about 6/7 other EC-'s and Squirrels including RAF a/c on air test (Macline 22) (callsign also used on G-CHSU airtest) _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From nick042429 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 01:35:28 2005 From: nick042429 at yahoo.com (nick 042429) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:35:18 2005 Subject: [CAE] Mike Vass reports from Dallas Fort Worth Message-ID: <20050402063528.43166.qmail@web50304.mail.yahoo.com> Mike thanks for the great reports from Dallas over the last couple of years, somebody needs to say it. Wish you all the best for your return to Blighty next month, you'll have an absolute field day on your first visit to Heathrow. I know that not everyone who has visited the Dallas area has taken advantage of your spotting trips around the area or my trips around Houston. Everyone who comes here that has had a few days up there in the cold north has been most complimentary for what you have done in showing them around the Dallas Fields. This list is for the sharing of information lets keep it that way and not deter those who occasionally make the odd slip on the quayboard. (My support also extends to a certain moderator who also took a bit of a knock recently while offering genuine information.) You have taken much more time than I do to update the membership of the activities at your local field with concise reports. Thanks and I will see you tomorrow for a farewell spot and hopefully a few beers. Don't forget our teams meet at Anfield tomorrow. Come on the white men! Oh and heres a log for Hobby this evening 17:00 - 19:00 N426JN LJ N209HR LJ N53HF 750 N27BL LJ N262AG Shorts 330 N496WN 737 SW N777KY 727 Charlotte Hornets N309DL 737 DAL N422MA Metro N99SC Gulfstream N102CE 650 N214AA M80 AA N709SW 737 SW N418MN LJ N608MD G II N804ME M88 Midwest - brought in St Louis Cards? N657AE 145 AMR N940AT 717 ATR N31496 BJ 400 N899SC 125 N720JC F200 N31MW LJ N773TA BJ 400 N773PW B90 N87GS G II "Charlotte Hornets" N438CR B200 N665BC 145 AMR N652CV 650 N797CB LJ N870C TBM N575BW 550 N196MG 125 N61KB 750 N210CL TBM N367JC 560 N644AE 145 AMR N490WN 737 SW I have not checked the types these might be slightly erroneous I will be checking them eventually. If there are any slight error I apologise now. Best regards Nick Howard __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From nstevo at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 01:42:31 2005 From: nstevo at ntlworld.com (Neil Stephenson) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:42:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) References: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> <424DDFE2.8020209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002c01c5374f$2676a160$a58e6ad5@Neil> Just shows you the inconsistency of security though doesn't it. In February I flew Manchester to Chicago, then on to Houston, same route back. Locked my case and had no problems !! Neil Stephenson St. Helens Rugby League "It's just like watching Brazil" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gerrard" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) > But if the security or check-in idiots at MAN had told you as they are > supposed, to that you are not allowed to lock your luggage on US flights, > you wouldn't be on a wasted mission to get the TSA to reimburse you! > > CADNCRD@cwctv.net wrote: > >>Mike/All >> >>Having returned last weekend from a two week break in Houston which gave >>me some quality R&R after a traumatic few months on the personal front, my >>observations are as follows: >> >>On the outward trip to Houston from Manchester via Chicago, I managed to >>log a few from the plane but, after clearing customs, made my way via the >>inter-terminal train to T1 where my flight to Houston was due to depart. >>I had my scribble pad and mini-bins with me and even managed to "cop" a >>couple from the train before I disembarked at T1. >> >>My flight was departing from C27 so I decided to wander up B "pier" (for >>want of a better word) to see what was in before wending my way back to C >>"pier" and my gate. I had no problem logging with Mk1 eyeball and was >>even able to use the mini bins where necessary. I stopped off for a >>McDonalds and stood by a phone booth to log whilst I ate (juggling most of >>the time!!). B & C houses United/Ted with the odd Delta, American & Air >>Canada aircraft. >> >>I parked myself at my gate and spotted quite happily for the next couple >>of hours with no hassle at all. Obviously I couldn't get everything (ie >>what was on cargo) but I put 50 away! >> >>On the return journey last Sunday (arriving back early Monday morning) my >>E170 flight (N640RW - neat aircraft comfy flight!) parked next to the SAS >>& THY long hauls but again I did a quick reccie of B & C before heading >>toward T5 for my flight home - had less time here on the return journey >>but still managed to spot from my gate, this time making mostly American & >>American Eagle before embarking. The taxi for take off allowed me to gain >>a few more too so a total or 28 were put away then! >> >>All in all no problems at all with spotting. As this was my first trip to >>the States on my own, I wasn't really sure where to go to get the best >>views but didn't do too badly! >> >>One word of warning! I locked my case (as you do) after being the subject >>of a random search at Manchester (just my luck!) and then collected and >>despatched it on its way at Chicago, only to arrive in Houston to find >>white tape round the case, the strap missing and the locks bust after the >>National Transportation people had broken into it to inspect the contents! >>Sadly no comeback on getting them to fork out for a new case so I had to >>bite the bullet and buy a new one which I didn't lock and didn't get >>inspected! Ho hum! I know better next time! >> >>Hope this helps >> >>Cas >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >>To read on the web go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>and click 'CAE Archives' >> >>To amend your options go to >>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >>The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >> >>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From pgsphoto at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 02:52:14 2005 From: pgsphoto at gmail.com (Paul Smith) Date: Sat Apr 2 02:52:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT freqs for AMS Schiphol Message-ID: Hi all, managed to get to AMS this morning without bringing my OTT charts. Can any kind soul out there provide me with the necessary frequencies for the OTT air lanes. Will be posting lists as we go along. MTIA Paul Graeme and Don From chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 2 02:56:07 2005 From: chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk (Chris & Christine Mellon) Date: Sat Apr 2 03:00:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Luton 1st April 2005 Message-ID: <01C53762.6781A700.chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk> Credits: Tony Williams, Steve Smith, Doug MacDonald, Keith Harris, Martin Cole, Amanda Hunter, Kevin Palmer, Pete White, Mike Ronayne, Dave Williams, Michael Hooker and Brian Matthews. Covers 0755 - 1510 and 1655 - 2400 in full. 0003 dept CV580 BCS1092 0120 dept A300F MNB424 LTN-IST 0217 dept 737 RYR02P LTN-STN 0345/0503 757F BCS2411/2833 0441/2337 EC-HJU CV580 BCS2458/1092 e0720/0839 HA-LPB A320 WZZ401W/302G 0710/0811 A319 EZY4955/4956 0733 dept EI-WGV G5 EFF005 LTN-SNN 0757/0853 A320 WZZ201B/202B 0759/0844 A320 WZZ101K/402W 0847/0947 F-GIXF 737 F/V FPO162V/1623 TLS-LTN-TLS 0850 dept CS-DFG F2THEX NJE693P LTN-BCN 0945/1111 5B-DBI 737 HCY400/401 0957 dept N1SN G4SP LTN-CER 0959 dept G-OOAP A320 FCA724C 1053/1133 EI-DCR 737 RYR4151/3256 1109/1146 EI-DAS 737 RYR3603/333K 1126 dept N405LM G5 LTN-IAD 1200/1250 Bae146 BRT1MX/2MX 1218 dept LX-AKI FA50EX SVW401K LTN-BQH 1222/1313 ATR72 REA501/544 1311/1406 HA-LPB A320 WZZ301G/102K 1317/1409 N283S BD700 GVA-LTN-TEB 1327 dept HZ-OFC4 F900EX LTN-LBG 1348 LX-GDC CL601 LUX-LTN 1418 CS-DMA Be400A F/V NJE580P LYS-LTN 1420 N485LT HS125 OXF-LTN 1453 dept N53497 PA-34 1505 CL60. CLS323 AMS-NHT-LTN 1519 N737ER BBJ FTW-LTN 1520 dept G-NETA C560XL OXE101 LTN-MAN-NHT-SOU 1607 dept VP-BLA G550 LTN-AGP 1619 dept G-FRYL PRM1 OXE195 LTN-NCE 1622/1718 ATR72 REA545/506 1631 dept N498YY C525 LTN-AVN 1736 dept N288Z BD700 LTN-CIA 1753/1854 A319 EZY4957/4958 1822/1856 N21VC C525 1832/1842 Heli PGL10 1843 VP-CNP G3 GVA-LTN 1848 C550B NJE563R CMF-LTN 1850 dept N397JJ G4SP LTN-OVB 1902 HS125 NJE416P NHT-LTN 1915 A320 FCA724D 1954 A320 WZZ109K 2009 G-NETA C560XL OXE101 MAN-NHT-SOU-LTN 2014 HA-LPF A320 WZZ209B 2057 dept A320 WZZ210B 2103 dept A320 WZZ110K 2129 C550B NJE390P GCI-LTN 2206 N82GK HS125 BCT-YYT-LTN Kind regards Chris & Christine Mellon e-mail (home): chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk e-mail (work): Chris_Mellon@mastercard.com From CADNCRD at cwctv.net Sat Apr 2 04:01:06 2005 From: CADNCRD at cwctv.net (CADNCRD@cwctv.net) Date: Sat Apr 2 03:00:59 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) Message-ID: <00e5a1457070245DTVMAIL7@smtp.cwctv.net> Mark/All I was told there was no point in claming off the TSA so I've not bothered, but as you say I should have been warned beforehand. My gripe now is that I am trying to claim for damage to the NEW case caused probably by the carriers between Chicago & Manchester on the return leg as the stand at the bottom of the case was broken off and this had the luggage tag on it! I'm not holding my breath! Cas On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:57:23 -0500 Mark Gerrard wrote: From muckersgaff at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 03:34:15 2005 From: muckersgaff at ntlworld.com (Mark Lawley) Date: Sat Apr 2 03:34:00 2005 Subject: Fw: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) Message-ID: <002c01c5375e$c27b4840$3d7a6151@adudxtqfk8koo1> my experience of the suitcase saga has been okay when passing through Chicago O Hare , this airport is usually used as a transit point, I pick up my case after clearing immigration , passport control , then collect my suitcase and because I am travelling to another destination in the USA my bag has to go through another security check then I get asked to remove my lock incase they feel the need to look inside , on one occasion I had my case damaged whilst traveling to Seattle Tacoma I simply took my suitcase to the United Airlines desk and told them I wanted 5 thousand air miles addidng to my Alliance airmiles card, after negotiations I settled for 2 thousand !!!! regards .................. mark lawley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Stephenson" To: "Mark Gerrard" ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) > Just shows you the inconsistency of security though doesn't it. In > February I flew Manchester to Chicago, then on to Houston, same route > back. Locked my case and had no problems !! > > Neil Stephenson > St. Helens Rugby League > "It's just like watching Brazil" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Gerrard" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:57 AM > Subject: Re: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) > > >> But if the security or check-in idiots at MAN had told you as they are >> supposed, to that you are not allowed to lock your luggage on US flights, >> you wouldn't be on a wasted mission to get the TSA to reimburse you! >> >> CADNCRD@cwctv.net wrote: >> >>>Mike/All >>> >>>Having returned last weekend from a two week break in Houston which gave >>>me some quality R&R after a traumatic few months on the personal front, >>>my observations are as follows: >>> >>>On the outward trip to Houston from Manchester via Chicago, I managed to >>>log a few from the plane but, after clearing customs, made my way via >>>the inter-terminal train to T1 where my flight to Houston was due to >>>depart. I had my scribble pad and mini-bins with me and even managed to >>>"cop" a couple from the train before I disembarked at T1. >>> >>>My flight was departing from C27 so I decided to wander up B "pier" (for >>>want of a better word) to see what was in before wending my way back to C >>>"pier" and my gate. I had no problem logging with Mk1 eyeball and was >>>even able to use the mini bins where necessary. I stopped off for a >>>McDonalds and stood by a phone booth to log whilst I ate (juggling most >>>of the time!!). B & C houses United/Ted with the odd Delta, American & >>>Air Canada aircraft. >>> >>>I parked myself at my gate and spotted quite happily for the next couple >>>of hours with no hassle at all. Obviously I couldn't get everything (ie >>>what was on cargo) but I put 50 away! >>> >>>On the return journey last Sunday (arriving back early Monday morning) my >>>E170 flight (N640RW - neat aircraft comfy flight!) parked next to the SAS >>>& THY long hauls but again I did a quick reccie of B & C before heading >>>toward T5 for my flight home - had less time here on the return journey >>>but still managed to spot from my gate, this time making mostly American >>>& American Eagle before embarking. The taxi for take off allowed me to >>>gain a few more too so a total or 28 were put away then! >>> >>>All in all no problems at all with spotting. As this was my first trip >>>to the States on my own, I wasn't really sure where to go to get the best >>>views but didn't do too badly! >>> >>>One word of warning! I locked my case (as you do) after being the >>>subject of a random search at Manchester (just my luck!) and then >>>collected and despatched it on its way at Chicago, only to arrive in >>>Houston to find white tape round the case, the strap missing and the >>>locks bust after the National Transportation people had broken into it to >>>inspect the contents! Sadly no comeback on getting them to fork out for a >>>new case so I had to bite the bullet and buy a new one which I didn't >>>lock and didn't get inspected! Ho hum! I know better next time! >>> >>>Hope this helps >>> >>>Cas >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >>> >>>To read on the web go to >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >>>and click 'CAE Archives' >>> >>>To amend your options go to >>>http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >>> >>>The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >>> >>>The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com Sat Apr 2 03:37:28 2005 From: chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com (Chris [AMS/EHAM]) Date: Sat Apr 2 03:37:16 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes In-Reply-To: <012001c536fe$ad5b1db0$0300a8c0@cp288262a> Message-ID: Hiya Paul, >From: "Paul J. Hooper" >To: , >CC: cae@aviationlists.com >Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 23:06:28 +0200 > >Let's cut this out and take a look at the FAQs!! Anyone reading the FAQ knows about the codes.... I'm not up to speed with the vault and the new list. Can you check if Roger's website is in the vault: http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/ Anyone interested in making an extra step, can look for all sorts of codes on this website. Bye, Chris. From deana.steve19 at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 04:28:15 2005 From: deana.steve19 at btinternet.com (deana.steve) Date: Sat Apr 2 04:17:37 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req OTT Compton 01-04-05 Message-ID: <007401c53766$4c0f2520$7800a8c0@iqon> Morning all I have checked ACARS reports and cant find this one. A biz(not sure of type due to sparrodic cloud) calling???30H west at 18.40.It was not the 737 N103KH,that passed 15 mins before. Any help appreciated please. Cheers Steve B From ns.howarth at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 04:35:07 2005 From: ns.howarth at virgin.net (Nigel Howarth) Date: Sat Apr 2 04:37:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] Heads up: Newcastle (NCL) Message-ID: <031301c53767$846cd010$35e6be3e@mainpc> BZH 5851 CRJ-700 Brit Air to the East of MAN at 1035 heading CDG-NCL Is this a regular flight ? Nige. From gavin59 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 2 04:26:54 2005 From: gavin59 at tiscali.co.uk (gavin59@tiscali.co.uk) Date: Sat Apr 2 04:42:23 2005 Subject: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 Message-ID: <4233A3B500066C68@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Hi Guys Havent seen this reported by anyone as yet,but it came in last night just as it was getting dusk! RA85702 TU154M Callsign was KJC4403 Dont know if its still there,wasnt on the computer for departure,maybe over for the footie next week? Gavin ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ From ns.howarth at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 04:46:46 2005 From: ns.howarth at virgin.net (Nigel Howarth) Date: Sat Apr 2 04:49:37 2005 Subject: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) References: <0a3b60114190145DTVMAIL8@smtp.cwctv.net> <424DDFE2.8020209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <042001c53769$428c1e60$35e6be3e@mainpc> I recently transitted Detroit (and Chicago last year) and in both instances I was warned to unlock the case as it went through the scanner in the transit area. The same happened at NW checkin at EWR. In all instances, once the case has passed through the scanner, you can request it to be re-locked (either they spin the combination locks or you go and padlock it) and they are happy with this. Once it's scanned, it can be locked. Nige. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Gerrard" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [CAE] ANS: Spotting at Chicago (ORD) But if the security or check-in idiots at MAN had told you as they are supposed, to that you are not allowed to lock your luggage on US flights, you wouldn't be on a wasted mission to get the TSA to reimburse you! CADNCRD@cwctv.net wrote: >Mike/All > >Having returned last weekend from a two week break in Houston which gave me some quality R&R after a traumatic few months on the personal front, my observations are as follows: > >On the outward trip to Houston from Manchester via Chicago, I managed to log a few from the plane but, after clearing customs, made my way via the inter-terminal train to T1 where my flight to Houston was due to depart. I had my scribble pad and mini-bins with me and even managed to "cop" a couple from the train before I disembarked at T1. > >My flight was departing from C27 so I decided to wander up B "pier" (for want of a better word) to see what was in before wending my way back to C "pier" and my gate. I had no problem logging with Mk1 eyeball and was even able to use the mini bins where necessary. I stopped off for a McDonalds and stood by a phone booth to log whilst I ate (juggling most of the time!!). B & C houses United/Ted with the odd Delta, American & Air Canada aircraft. > >I parked myself at my gate and spotted quite happily for the next couple of hours with no hassle at all. Obviously I couldn't get everything (ie what was on cargo) but I put 50 away! > >On the return journey last Sunday (arriving back early Monday morning) my E170 flight (N640RW - neat aircraft comfy flight!) parked next to the SAS & THY long hauls but again I did a quick reccie of B & C before heading toward T5 for my flight home - had less time here on the return journey but still managed to spot from my gate, this time making mostly American & American Eagle before embarking. The taxi for take off allowed me to gain a few more too so a total or 28 were put away then! > >All in all no problems at all with spotting. As this was my first trip to the States on my own, I wasn't really sure where to go to get the best views but didn't do too badly! > >One word of warning! I locked my case (as you do) after being the subject of a random search at Manchester (just my luck!) and then collected and despatched it on its way at Chicago, only to arrive in Houston to find white tape round the case, the strap missing and the locks bust after the National Transportation people had broken into it to inspect the contents! Sadly no comeback on getting them to fork out for a new case so I had to bite the bullet and buy a new one which I didn't lock and didn't get inspected! Ho hum! I know better next time! > >Hope this helps > >Cas > > > >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at >http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From DC8AS at tinyworld.co.uk Sat Apr 2 05:25:14 2005 From: DC8AS at tinyworld.co.uk (Stephen Walker) Date: Sat Apr 2 05:24:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 References: <4233A3B500066C68@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Message-ID: <007d01c5376e$420fd030$28c32b50@ifriend> Hi Gavin/All KJC4403 was seen over Southampton heading towards Ortac at about 19.45 last evening,so it didn't stay long. Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 Hi Guys Havent seen this reported by anyone as yet,but it came in last night just as it was getting dusk! RA85702 TU154M Callsign was KJC4403 Dont know if its still there,wasnt on the computer for departure,maybe over for the footie next week? Gavin ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From deana.steve19 at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 05:35:40 2005 From: deana.steve19 at btinternet.com (deana.steve) Date: Sat Apr 2 05:25:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req Hughes over Didcot Oxon 02-04-05 Message-ID: <000e01c5376f$b702f8d0$7800a8c0@iqon> Morning all Just gone over 11.24 a red Hughes.Rushed to get pole and reg appeared to begin with Z.Wrong angle to be sure. Any help please. Cheers Steve B From johnb3924 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 05:32:10 2005 From: johnb3924 at blueyonder.co.uk (John Hansen) Date: Sat Apr 2 05:31:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes In-Reply-To: References: <012001c536fe$ad5b1db0$0300a8c0@cp288262a> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20050402111922.01b3fd28@pop3.blueyonder.co.uk> At 10:37 02/04/2005 +0200, you wrote: >Hiya Paul, > >>From: "Paul J. Hooper" >>To: , >>CC: cae@aviationlists.com >>Subject: Re: [CAE] Apologies to the list and Mr. Paull Hooper >>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 23:06:28 +0200 >> >>Let's cut this out and take a look at the FAQs!! > >Anyone reading the FAQ knows about the codes.... > >I'm not up to speed with the vault and the new list. >Can you check if Roger's website is in the vault: > >http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/ > >Anyone interested in making an extra step, can look for all sorts of codes >on this website. > >Bye, Chris. > I'm sorry but I'll have to comment on this one! All most us want to do is sift through our emails to ascertain which ones are relevant to us, in a reasonably quick time, it defeats the object if you have to go to the vault, search the net, or read the whole damn email, just to find out where on earth the writer is talking about. Let's face it , it's just showing off, I'm sure lot's of people, like myself have difficulty remembering a large number of codes, I know where Ord is and even IAD, but OMAC, even EGSL are beyond me. The rule was made to benefit all of us, not just the show-offs, every time this is brought up they squeal like stabbed pigs, when asked to be reasonable to all on the list. Selfish? you betcha. John Hansen From kierangildea at dsl.pipex.com Sat Apr 2 05:36:44 2005 From: kierangildea at dsl.pipex.com (Kieran) Date: Sat Apr 2 05:36:33 2005 Subject: [Stansted] Re: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 References: <4233A3B500066C68@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> <007d01c5376e$420fd030$28c32b50@ifriend> Message-ID: <037801c5376f$de7b3080$5d655651@acerzxy76m1imk> Routing to Tenerife South I believe. Cheers, Kieran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Walker" To: ; ; Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: [Stansted] Re: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 > Hi Gavin/All > KJC4403 was seen over Southampton heading towards Ortac at about 19.45 last > evening,so it didn't stay long. > > Steve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: [CAE] Move Stn 1/4/05 > > > Hi Guys > > Havent seen this reported by anyone as yet,but it came in last night just > as it was getting dusk! > > RA85702 TU154M Callsign was KJC4403 > > Dont know if its still there,wasnt on the computer for departure,maybe over > for the footie next week? > > Gavin > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. > Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ > Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Yahoo! 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Thanks alot Rob r.norvill@ntlworld.com From ns.howarth at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 05:54:21 2005 From: ns.howarth at virgin.net (Nigel Howarth) Date: Sat Apr 2 05:56:04 2005 Subject: [CAE] Vienna INFO REQ References: <004a01c53771$6d734470$1402a8c0@ROB> Message-ID: <011f01c53772$82bb9ca0$35e6be3e@mainpc> See http://english.viennaairport.com/ and click on Flight Information You should be able to see when the long hauls depart Nige. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: [CAE] Vienna INFO REQ Hi guys i am off out to Vienna in july for a few days. i would be greatful of some help i am going out there mainly for the OE- long haul and was wondering the best time to catch these? if anyone has a timetable at all that would be a great help. Thanks alot Rob r.norvill@ntlworld.com _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From r.otto at hccnet.nl Sat Apr 2 06:01:30 2005 From: r.otto at hccnet.nl (Rudolf Otto) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:01:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: info on spotting in Nepal References: <004a01c534ab$d0a62ad0$9600000a@rottomain> Message-ID: <015b01c53773$5356eea0$9600000a@rottomain> Thanks to all that replied. I will seriously take into consideration all advise I've got. Rudolf -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01-Apr-05 From flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Apr 2 06:10:00 2005 From: flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk (JAMES PAVELEY) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:10:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: BUDAPEST+BUDAORS Message-ID: <20050402111000.89334.qmail@web86908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all, The chopper I saw at Budaors and Budapest on 30-03-05 and 31-03-05. I was 99% sure of the reg being TC-HAA. Does anybody know if this aircraft is based in Hungary and even better, does anybody have a photograph or know where a photo can be viewed online. It was white with a destinctive blue and red line pattern on the side. (definitely a Squirrel). Thanks for any help with this difficult request! Cheers James Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From monster.hunter at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 06:11:52 2005 From: monster.hunter at virgin.net (Monster Hunter) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:12:16 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG EDI 30/03/05 31/03/05 Message-ID: <000e01c53774$ce2ee140$28ef0c52@h> Hi all, small log, enjoy G-LGNC/D/G/ SF340 G-CCGS DO328 G-BZOG DO328 G-BMYL D0328 G-ZAPU B757 G-ZAPV B737 G-CELR B737 Jet2 G-OTDA B737 G-EZJN B737 G-EZMK B737 G-RJXJ EMB EI-DEV 146 AF OO-TAD Bae146 G-CJAD CIT 525 G-BVCM C525 VP-CED CIT G-GDEZ Hs125 G-BOEI Hs125 31/03/05 G-CDEG B737 EI-DEW Bae146A/F G-EZEW A319 UPS ?? DHL?? CHEERS H, speacial thanks to Pete field for the Log.. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 From flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Apr 2 06:34:53 2005 From: flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk (JAMES PAVELEY) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:34:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO: DIRECTIONS TO BUDAORS. Message-ID: <20050402113453.17314.qmail@web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all Further to my log of Budapest and Budaors yesterday, I feel that some clearer directions are in order. So here goes. How to get from Budapest Ferihegy to Budaors airfield. Ticket purchasing: Buy a pack of 10 tickets at the Relay shop at the airport. This is situated in terminal 2B. This pack costs less than ?5 and entitles you to travel 10 times on tram/bus/metro. It will be a pack of orange tickets. Stamp 1 ticket when boarding transport. For bus and tram, stamp when on board in the machines. For the metro, stamp in the machine at the top of the steps or escalator. The route: 1) Catch the Raptor bus from outside arrivals. The stand is in between Terminal 2A and 2B. It is a blue 'bendy' bus. This is heading for Kobanya Kispest, (the end station). The journey takes 25 minutes if traffic is ok, (and it always is!). The route takes you past the aviation museum and behind Terminal 1. Occasionally you can see through gaps in the buildings and catch a glimpse of an Antonov,TNT,UPS,DHL,LET410 etc 2) Get off the Rapter bus at Kobanya Kispest and go up the steps into the metro station. Then turn left and go down the steps (punch another ticket at the top of the steps!). 3) Board the metro on the platform on the right. This is the end satation for the metro too, so it should come in empty. The metro line heads for UJPEST KOZPONT and is the blue line on maps. 4) Travel for 15-20 minutes and get off at KALVIN TER.(the 8th stop) 5) Go up to street level and go to the tram lines. 6) Board the number 49 tram in a southwest direction and punch another ticket. After a few minutes you will pass over the river. 7) Continue for approx 5-15 minutes and get off at KOSZTOLANYI DEZSO TER. This is a large crossraods with a park on the right. 8) Find he bus stop next to the tram line which has bus numbers 87 and 87A. 9) Board the 87 or 87A which runs every 15-20 minutes and continue in the same direction as the tram went. (ie; in a southwest direction away from the city!) Stamp another ticket. 10) After a further 15-20 minutes you will see the Budaors on your right. Press the bell as soon as you can see the airport. Get off the bus just before the junction and walk around the perimter, behind the hangars. 11) You will see the entrance after a few 100 meters. The road leading from the bus stop to the entrance is parralel to a railway line. The return: To return, catch the bus from the stop opposite the entrance and head back in the same direction you came from. Change back onto the tram and then back onto the metro at Kalvin Ter. Change onto the Rapter bus at Kobanya Kispest and you will arrive back at the airport Don't be put off by the 3 changes, we managed to do it with no problems. Everything is clear and we didn't get lost at all. The cost for the entire journey will come to about ?3.20 if you don't cheat the system. (most people seem to only stamp a ticket on the bus if an inspector walks up i'm told). And i didn't even see any inspectors! Total time for journey: around 1.5 hours. Enjoy it, but hurry. Lots ot he Kamovs are being scrapped right now. Hope this helps and let me know if anybody goes to Budaors! James Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 06:52:49 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:53:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Paris (Charles De Gaulle & Orly) 21/03/05 Message-ID: <8DB53884FE1F7254A86333F44DD33E7C@chrisball.easy.com> Hi all Just back from two weeks in Europe courtisey of easy jet. I booked 11 flights over the two week period for ?190 at easy jet.com. I visited Paris, Toulouse, Geneva, Berlin, Hamburg, Copenhagen and Geneva. I will post all the logs as I enter them into my database. I hope they are of interest to some. Paris Charles De Gaulle 0950-1500 3B-NAY Airbus A340313X 152 Air Mauritius 4L-TGA Boeing 737529 25218 Georgian Airways 4X-ECC Boeing 777258ER 30833 El Al-Israel Airlines 5B-DBA Airbus A320231 0180 Cyprus Airways 7T-VJW Airbus A330 202 647 Air Algerie 9A-CTJ Airbus A320214 1009 Croatia Airlines 9M-MPM Boeing 7474H6 28435 Malaysia Airlines 9V-SPM Boeing 747412 29950 Singapore Airlines A4O-LD Airbus A340312 097 Gulf Air A6-EMI Boeing 77721HER 27250 Emirates Airlines B-16408 Boeing 74745E 28092 EVA Airways B-2052 Boeing 77721B 27358 China Southern Airlines B-2173 McDonnell-Douglas MD-11F 48497 China Eastern Airlines B-6050 Airbus A340642 468 China Eastern Airlines B-HOT Boeing 747467 24851 Cathay Pacific Airways C-FOCA Boeing 767375ER 24575 Air Canada C-GFAH Airbus A330343X 279 Air Canada CN-ANL Gulfstream G2TT 182 Moroccan Government CN-RGA Boeing 747428 25629 Royal Air Maroc CN-RMX Boeing 7374B6 26526 Royal Air Maroc D-ACLS Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7090 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPC Canadair Regional-Jet700 10014 Lufthansa Regional D-AIAN Airbus A300B4-603 411 Lufthansa D-ARFC Airbus A320232 0580 Aero Flight D4-CBP Boeing 7572Q8 30045 TACV Cabo Verde Airlines EC-JAZ Airbus A319111 2264 Iberia EC-JCG Canadair Regional-Jet200ER 7973 Air Nostrum EI-CNB British Aerospace 146-200 E2046 Cityjet EI-CVS Aerospatiale ATR 42312 033 Aer Arann EK-32008 Airbus A320211 0229 Armenian Airlines F-GCBF Boeing 747228B 22794 Air France F-GCBJ Boeing 747228B 24067 Air France F-GEXB Boeing 7474B3 24155 Air France F-GFKD Airbus A320111 0014 Air France F-GFKE Airbus A320111 0019 Air France F-GFKI Airbus A320211 0062 Air France F-GFKJ Airbus A320211 0063 Air France F-GFKK Airbus A320211 0100 Air France F-GFKM Airbus A320211 0102 Air France F-GFKN Airbus A320211 0128 Air France F-GFKO Airbus A320211 0129 Air France F-GFKP Airbus A320211 0133 Air France F-GFKU Airbus A320211 0226 Air France F-GFKY Airbus A320211 0285 Air France F-GFKZ Airbus A320211 0286 Air France F-GGEE Airbus A320111 0016 Air France F-GHQC Airbus A320211 0044 Air France F-GIOG Fokker F-100 11364 Regional Airlines F-GISB Boeing 747428 25302 Air France F-GISE Boeing 747428 25630 Air France F-GITE Boeing 747428 25601 Air France F-GITI Boeing 747428 32869 Air France F-GITJ Boeing 747428 32871 Air France F-GJNA Boeing 737528 25206 Air France F-GJNC Boeing 737528 25228 Air France F-GJND Boeing 737528 25229 Air France F-GJNF Boeing 737528 25231 Air France F-GJNG Boeing 737528 25232 Air France F-GJNK Boeing 737528 25236 Air France F-GJNL Boeing 7375H6 26448 Air France F-GJNN Boeing 737528 27304 Air France F-GJVB Airbus A320211 0145 Air France F-GJVE Airbus A320211 0215 Air France F-GJVF Airbus A320211 0244 Air France F-GJVW Airbus A320211 0491 Air France F-GKXA Airbus A320211 0287 Air France F-GKXB Airbus A320211 0235 Air France F-GKXF Airbus A320214 1885 Air France F-GKXH Airbus A320214 1924 Air France F-GKXI Airbus A320214 1949 Air France F-GKXJ Airbus A320214 1900 Air France F-GLXI Boeing 7374Y0 26066 Aigle Azur F-GLZA Airbus A340311 005 Air France F-GLZC Airbus A340312 029 Air France F-GLZD Airbus A340211 031 Air France F-GLZG Airbus A340312 049 Air France F-GLZH Airbus A340311 078 Air France F-GLZJ Airbus A340313X 186 Air France F-GLZK Airbus A340313X 207 Air France F-GLZL Airbus A340313X 210 Air France F-GLZP Airbus A340313X 260 Air France F-GLZQ Airbus A340313X 289 Air France F-GLZS Airbus A340313X 310 Air France F-GLZT Airbus A340313X 319 Air France F-GLZU Airbus A340313X 377 Air France F-GNIG Airbus A340313X 174 Air France F-GNLG Fokker F-100 11363 Blue Line F-GNLK Fokker F-100 11307 Air France F-GNYR Cessna 208B 208B-1039 Corporate F-GPMB Airbus A319113 0600 Air France F-GPNL Fokker F-100 11325 Air France F-GRHE Airbus A319111 1020 Air France F-GRHH Airbus A319111 1151 Air France F-GRHI Airbus A319111 1169 Air France F-GRHK Airbus A319111 1190 Air France F-GRHL Airbus A319111 1201 Air France F-GRHM Airbus A319111 1216 Air France F-GRHN Airbus A319111 1267 Air France F-GRHO 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F-GSQF Boeing 777328ER 32849 Air France F-GTAD Airbus A321211 0777 Air France F-GTAH Airbus A321211 1133 Air France F-GTAJ Airbus A321211 1476 Air France F-GTAL Airbus A321211 1691 Air France F-GTAM Airbus A321211 1859 Air France F-GUAM Embraer ERJ-145MP 145266 Air France F-GUBB Embraer ERJ-145MP 145419 Air France F-GUBF Embraer ERJ-145MP 145669 Air France F-GUBG Airbus Industrie A318-321 F-GUFD Embraer ERJ-145MP 145197 Air France F-GUGA Airbus A318111 2035 Air France F-GUGC Airbus A318111 2071 Air France F-GUGE Airbus A318111 2100 Air France F-GUGF Airbus A318111 2109 Air France F-GUGH Airbus A318111 2344 Air France F-GUGI Airbus A318111 2350 Air France F-GUPT Embraer ERJ-145MP 145294 Air France F-GVGS Embraer ERJ-145MP 145385 Air France F-GYAN Airbus A321111 0535 Air Mediterranee F-GYYY Airbus A310204 486 Eagle Aviation F-GZCL Airbus A330301 519 Air France F-GZCN Airbus A330203 584 Air France F-OMEC Airbus A330243 532 Middle East Airlines F-ORMJ Airbus A321231 2055 Middle East 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G-MABR British Aerospace 146-100 E1015 British Airways CitiExpress G-RJXD Embraer ERJ-145EP 145207 British Midland Regional HA-LOS Boeing 737 7Q8 29359 MALEV HB-IJO Airbus A320214 0673 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IJZ Airbus A320211 0211 Air Prishtina HB-IPR Airbus A319112 1018 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IPS Airbus A319112 0734 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXH British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2233 Swiss International AirLines HB-IXK British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2235 wiss International Air Lines HS-TGK Boeing 7474D7 24993 Thai Airways HS-TGK Boeing 7474D7 24993 Thai Airways I-BIKU Airbus A320214 1217 Alitalia I-BIXD Airbus A321112 0532 Alitalia I-BIXF Airbus A321112 0515 Alitalia I-BIXU Airbus A321112 0434 Alitalia I-TERK British Aerospace 146-200 E2066 Club Air JA705J Boeing 777246ER 32893 Japan Airlines LN-RPK Boeing 737783 28317 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LX-LGI Embraer ERJ-145LU 145369 Luxair LX-LGV Embraer ERJ-145LU 145129 Luxair LY-AZY Boeing 737548 26287 Lithuanian Airlines N173DN Boeing 767332ER 24800 Delta Air Lines N187DN Boeing 767332ER 27582 Delta Air Lines N197DN Boeing 767332ER 28454 Delta Air Lines N347AN Boeing 767323ER 33086 American Airlines N355AA Boeing 767323ER 24036 American Airlines N378AN Boeing 767323ER 25447 American Airlines N644UA Boeing 767322ER 25094 United Airlines N675US Airbus A330323X 370 US Airways N68159 Boeing 767224ER 30438 Continental Airlines N78002 Boeing 777224ER 27578 Continental Airlines N78017 Boeing 777224ER 31679 Continental Airlines N862DA Boeing 777232ER 29734 Delta Air Lines OE-LBA Airbus A321111 0552 Austrian Airlines OE-LSE Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7990 Salzburg Spirit OH-LXI Airbus A320214 1989 Finnair OH-LXM Airbus A320214 2154 Finnair OH-LZC Airbus A321211 1185 Finnair OK-DGN Boeing 73745S 28474 CSA Czech Airlines OK-TVS Boeing 7374Y0 24911 Travel Service Airlines OY-APH Boeing 7375L9 28721 Maersk Air OY-MAE Boeing 7375L9 25066 Maersk Air OY-MPH Boeing 737 Maersk Air PH-BXO Boeing 7379K2 29599 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXR Boeing 7379K2 29601 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BZM Boeing 767306ER 28884 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PP-VTP McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 48539 VARIG PT-MVK Airbus A330203 486 TAM Brasil SP-LKD Boeing 73755D 27419 LOT Polish Airlines SX-BKL Boeing 7374Y0 24915 Olympic Airlines SX-BVB Airbus A320232 1992 Hellas Jet TF-ATT Boeing 767383ER 24358 Air Gabon TF-ELD Boeing 73746B 24124 Islandsflug TF-ELS Airbus A310304F 552 Islandsflug TF-ELY Boeing 7374Q8 25168 Islandsflug TS-ING Airbus A320211 0140 Afriqiyah Airways UR-GAL Boeing 737341 24275 Ukraine International Airlines VN-A141 Boeing 7772Q8ER 28688 Vietnam Airlines VP-BWO Airbus A321211 2337 Aeroflot Russian Airlines VT-EVJ Boeing 7474B5 24199 Air India XA-APB Boeing 7673Q8ER 27618 Aeromexico YR-BGH Boeing 73778J 28438 TAROM ZS-SLB Airbus A340211 011 South African Airways Paris Orly 1600-1900 6V-AEF Boeing 7272M1 21091 Senegal Government 6V-AHO Boeing 7377BX 30739 Air Senegal International 7T-VJH Boeing 7673D6ER 24767 Air Algerie 7T-VJY Airbus Industrie A330/340 Air Algerie CN-RNX Airbus A321211 2064 Royal Air Maroc CS-TNJ Airbus A320214 1181 TAP Air Portugal CS-TQH Airbus A320211 0023 Air Luxor EC-EYB Douglas MD87 49838 Iberia EC-FNR Airbus A320211 0323 Iberia EC-IIG Airbus A321211 1554 Iberia EC-IJS Canadair Regional-Jet200ER 7706 Air Nostrum F-GETA Boeing 7473B3 23413 Air France F-GFUG Boeing 7374B3 24750 Corsair F-GFUH Boeing 7374B3 24751 Corsair F-GGEA Airbus A320111 0010 Air France F-GGEF Airbus A320111 0004 Air France F-GGEG Airbus A320111 0003 Air France F-GHQB Airbus A320211 0036 Air France F-GHQC Airbus A320211 0044 Air France F-GHQD Airbus A320211 0108 Air France F-GHQE Airbus A320211 0115 Air France F-GHQF Airbus A320211 0130 Air France F-GHQG Airbus A320211 0155 Air France F-GHQH Airbus A320211 0156 Air France F-GHQI Airbus A320211 0184 Air France F-GHQJ Airbus A320211 0214 Air France F-GHQL Airbus A320211 0239 Air France F-GHQL Airbus A320211 0239 Air France F-GHQM Airbus A320211 0237 Air France F-GHQP Airbus A320211 0337 Air France F-GHQQ Airbus A320211 0352 Air France F-GITD Boeing 747428 25600 Air France F-GKHD Fokker F-100 11381 Brit Air F-GKXE Airbus A320214 1879 Air France F-GKXG Airbus A320214 1894 Air France F-GKXK Airbus A320214 2140 Air France F-GKYN Aerospatiale ATR 42312 095 Airlinair F-GLXJ Boeing 7374Y0 25177 Aigle Azur F-GMZC Airbus A321111 0521 Air France F-GMZD Airbus A321111 0529 Air France F-GMZE Airbus A321111 0544 Air France F-GPMA Airbus A319113 0598 Air France F-GPMC Airbus A319113 0608 Air France F-GPMF Airbus A319113 0637 Air France F-GPMG Airbus A319113 0644 Air France F-GPMH Airbus A319113 0647 Air France F-GPXA Fokker F-100 11487 Air France F-GPXD Fokker F-100 11494 Air France F-GPXF Fokker F-100 11330 Air France F-GPYB Aerospatiale ATR 42512 480 Airlinair F-GPYC Aerospatiale ATR 42512 484 Airlinair F-GPYK Aerospatiale ATR 42512 537 Airlinair F-GPYL Aerospatiale ATR 42512 542 Airlinair F-GRHA Airbus A319111 0938 Air France F-GRHI Airbus A319111 1169 Air France F-GRHO Airbus A319111 1271 Air France F-GRHQ Airbus A319111 1404 Air France F-GRHT Airbus A319111 1449 Air France F-GRHV Airbus A319111 1505 Air France F-GRJC Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7085 Air France F-GRJI Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7147 Air France F-GRJK Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7219 Air France F-GRZI Canadair Regional-Jet700 10093 Air France F-GSKY Boeing 747312 23244 Corsair F-GUPE Beech 1900D UE-248 Pan Europeenne F-GVZZ Aerospatiale ATR 42312 055 Airlinair F-GYFL Airbus A320214 0548 CCM Airlines F-HBIL Airbus A330243 320 Corsair F-HJAC Boeing 747312 23243 Corsair G-EZBS Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet G-EZEU Airbus A319111 2283 EasyJet G-EZIA Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet G-EZNM Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet HB-JZH Airbus A319111 2230 EasyJet Switzerland SU-GCF Airbus A330243 610 Egypt Air TC-JFI Boeing 7378F2 29771 THY Turkish Airlines TS-IMC Airbus A320211 0124 Tunis Air TS-IME Airbus A320211 0123 Tunis Air TS-IMM Airbus A320211 0975 Tunis Air Cheers Chris >From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 2 05:54:03 2005 From: Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk (Steve Barnes) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:55:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] Heads up: Newcastle (NCL) References: <031301c53767$846cd010$35e6be3e@mainpc> Message-ID: <001801c53772$732f3440$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> Yes - Brit Air CRJ700's have replaced Regional EMB-145's on the AF NCL - CDG service from the start of the summer scheds. This one was F-GRZC. Regards, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Nigel Howarth To: MANTMA ; Civil List Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: [CAE] Heads up: Newcastle (NCL) > BZH 5851 CRJ-700 Brit Air to the East of MAN at 1035 heading CDG-NCL > Is this a regular flight ? > > Nige. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 From plane.spotter at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 06:56:43 2005 From: plane.spotter at ntlworld.com (Duane Charles) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:56:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Possible Mis-poles Message-ID: <20050402115653.VNQZ1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> I'm just going though my old log for last year, but I can't find any info on any of these. Therefore I'd be grateful if anyone could correct my mistakes please? G-GOND Shoreham 10th April 2004 G-ISAK Old Sarum 15th April 2004 G-MAFU Thruxton 15th April 2004 G-BOZD Popham 15th April 2004 I have checked the G-info site and it can't find any relevant info on these aircraft MTIA Duane Charles From Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 2 07:01:58 2005 From: Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk (Steve Barnes) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:02:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG+REQ: NEWCASTLE + A FEW OTHER NE FIELDS References: <008801c5356f$cda67f50$13060050@hdmmvw> Message-ID: <007f01c5377b$e5e19b00$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> + 1 req R22 in hanger where 737-200 is parked it is maroon and white and > was parked next to G-OMMG) G-ROUT was parked in this spot this morning - standard R.22 maroon/white cls. Regards, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Yorkshire Aviation Group To: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: [CAE] LOG+REQ: NEWCASTLE + A FEW OTHER NE FIELDS > HI ALL, > > A run out to Newcastle was in order today to catch up with the TU-154, after > waiting 3 days for some decent weather we finally had to pick the most > miserable and foggy day of the week, as the TU-154 was to depart today. > > Coney Park > N911DN Bell Helicopters UH-1H Corporate > (ex 67-17426) This Huey is parked near to the road but please go ask for > permission if you want to photograph it. > > We spent a few hours at Newcastle and saw the following > 4K-85732 Tupolev Tu-154M Imair > EI-CNX Boeing 737230 Ryanair > F-GRZJ Canadair Regional-Jet700 Air France > G-BAPV Robin DR.400160 Private > G-BFMH Cessna 177B Private > G-BOEW Robinson R22 Private > (This was found at Northumbrian Helicopter in a very poor state does not > look as if it will ever fly again) > G-BSSE Piper PA-28140 Private > G-BVEZ BAC Jet ProvostT.3A Private > G-BYAX Boeing 757204 ThomsonFly > G-BYYG Slingsby T.67C1 Private > G-CBBS Scottish Aviation SA.120T.1 Private > G-CDEB SAAB 2000 Eastern Airways > G-CDFF Aerospatiale ATR 42320 Air Wales > G-CELW Boeing 737377F Channel Express > G-CPEM Boeing 757236 British Airways > G-CPEN Boeing 757236 British Airways > G-EZJD Boeing 73773V EasyJet > G-EZJH Boeing 73773V EasyJet > G-EZJX Boeing 73773V EasyJet > G-GBTB Boeing 737436 British Airways > G-GLUG Piper PA-31-350 Champagne Air > G-HBMW Robinson R22 Private > G-ICAB Robinson R44 Private > G-JARA Robinson R22 Private > G-JEAX British Aerospace 146-200 flybe. > G-JECG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 flybe. > G-MAJK British Aerospace Jetstream 41 Eastern Airways > G-MAJL British Aerospace Jetstream 41 Eastern Airways > G-OMMG Robinson R22 Private > LN-WFC de Havilland Canada DHC-8311 Wideroes > N14HF Maule MT-7235 Private > N58HK Cessna 550/551 Corporate > N999F Beech F33A Private > OY-MBJ Canadair Regional-Jet200LR Cimber Air > PH-BDA Boeing 737306 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines > + 1 req R22 in hanger where 737-200 is parked it is maroon and white and > was parked next to G-OMMG) > > Currock Hill > We were allowed a very brief look in the hanger as the people who were > around at the time were locking up for the day, also managed to photograph > the cushion craft) > BGA3203 PZL-Bielsko SZD-50-3 Private > BGA759 Slingsby T.41 Private > G-BXST Piper PA-25235C Private > XW249 Britten-Norman CC-7 Preserved > + 1 req ? /GEL Gilder > > Peterlee > Thanks to Richard for the tip off, regarding the Nomad, we got a full tour > of the aircraft by the Danish pilot who was very accommodating, he also > showed us around the hanger, further more he told us he was going back home > in a couple of weeks but another pilot would be flying the Nomad for the > most of the summer from Peterlee but they can visit other places as well, > the aircraft is too big to fit in the hanger to it can be viewed from the > car park. > G-AZOE Victa AirtourerT.2 Private > G-HALT Mainair PegasusQuik Private > G-MNUX Solar Wings PegasusXL-R Private > G-MTMI Solar Wings PegasusXL-R/Se Private > G-MWZJ Solar Wings PegasusXL-R Private > G-MYBE Solar Wings PegasusQuasar IITC Private > G-MYPY Solar Wings PegasusQuantum 15 Private > G-MYXN Mainair Blade Private > G-MZIT Mainair Blade912 Private > G-PLEE Cessna 182Q Private > OY-NMH GAF NomadN24A Private > > Teeside > D-EBWL Socata MS.894A Private > G-BASN Beech C23 Private > G-FRAL Dassault Falcon20DC FR Aviation > G-FRAS Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation > G-FRAT Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation > G-FRAU Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation > PH-KZM Fokker F-70 KLM cityhopper > > Standard-Northallerton > No one at home where was you Paul we called at 1600 and the pub was shut. > > Final call at Leeds > CS-DFR Cessna 560 NetJets Europe > D-ITAN Cessna 525 Corporate > N601HW Bombardier 6013R Corporate > > HARRY > > YORKSHIRE AVIATION GROUP > (Please note could you be kind enough > to ask for permission before using any > of this info). > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 07:09:52 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:10:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Paris Orly & Toulouse 22/03/05 Message-ID: Paris Orly 0700-1000 & 1845-1915 7T-VJW Airbus A330 202 647 Air Algerie CN-RNL Boeing 7377B6 28982 Royal Air Maroc CN-RNW Boeing 7378B6 33057 Royal Air Maroc CN-RNZ Boeing 7378B6 33058 Royal Air Maroc CS-TQD Airbus A320214 0870 Air Luxor CS-TQG Airbus A320211 0022 Air Luxor EC-GRJ Airbus A320211 0246 Iberia EC-HGO Boeing 73785P 28384 Air Europa EC-ICR Airbus A320211 0240 Iberia EC-IEF Airbus A320214 1655 Iberia EC-IIG Airbus A321211 1554 Iberia EC-IVV Boeing 737883 28323 Air Europa F-GETB Boeing 7473B3 23480 Air France F-GFUG Boeing 7374B3 24750 Corsair F-GFUH Boeing 7374B3 24751 Corsair F-GGEA Airbus A320111 0010 Air France F-GGEC Airbus A320111 0013 Air France F-GGEE Airbus A320111 0016 Air France F-GGEG Airbus A320111 0003 Air France F-GHQA Airbus A320211 0033 Air France F-GHQB Airbus A320211 0036 Air France F-GHQC Airbus A320211 0044 Air France F-GHQE Airbus A320211 0115 Air France F-GHQF Airbus A320211 0130 Air France F-GHQI Airbus A320211 0184 Air France F-GHQL Airbus A320211 0239 Air France F-GHQM Airbus A320211 0237 Air France F-GHQP Airbus A320211 0337 Air France F-GHQR Airbus A320211 0377 Air France F-GITA Boeing 747428 24969 Air France F-GKHE Fokker F-100 11386 Brit Air F-GKNC Aerospatiale ATR 42310 230 Airlinair F-GKXD Airbus A320214 1873 Air France F-GKXE Airbus A320214 1879 Air France F-GKXG Airbus A320214 1894 Air France F-GKYN Aerospatiale ATR 42312 095 Airlinair F-GLPL Beech 1900C-1 UC-92 Twin Jet F-GLZN Airbus A340313X 245 Air France F-GMZB Airbus A321111 0509 Air France F-GMZC Airbus A321111 0521 Air France F-GMZE Airbus A321111 0544 Air France F-GPMA Airbus A319113 0598 Air France F-GPMC Airbus A319113 0608 Air France F-GPMF Airbus A319113 0637 Air France F-GPXA Fokker F-100 11487 Air France F-GPXB Fokker F-100 11492 Air France F-GPXD Fokker F-100 11494 Air France F-GPXF Fokker F-100 11330 Air France F-GPYB Aerospatiale ATR 42512 480 Airlinair F-GPYC Aerospatiale ATR 42512 484 Airlinair F-GPYD Aerospatiale ATR 42512 490 Airlinair F-GPYK Aerospatiale ATR 42512 537 Airlinair F-GPYL Aerospatiale ATR 42512 542 Airlinair F-GPYM Aerospatiale ATR 42512 520 Air France F-GPYO Aerospatiale ATR 42512 544 Airlinair F-GRHA Airbus A319111 0938 Air France F-GRHD Airbus A319111 1000 Air France F-GRHI Airbus A319111 1169 Air France F-GRHQ Airbus A319111 1404 Air France F-GRJC Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7085 Air France F-GRJI Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7147 Air France F-GRJK Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7219 Air France F-GRYL Beech 1900D UE-301 Twin Jet F-GUAA Airbus A321211 0808 Air Mediterranee F-GUPE Beech 1900D UE-248 Pan Europeenne F-GVZF Aerospatiale ATR 72212 461 Air France F-GVZZ Aerospatiale ATR 42312 055 Airlinair F-GYFK Airbus A320214 0533 CCM Airlines F-GYFL Airbus A320214 0548 CCM Airlines F-HBAB Airbus A321211 0823 Aigle Azur F-HJAC Boeing 747312 23243 Corsair F-OFDF Airbus A330223 253 Air Caraibes F-OIVU Airbus A321211 1017 Air Ivoire F-OPTP Airbus A330223 240 Air Caraibes G-BDXF Boeing 747236B 21351 European Aviation G-EZBS Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet G-EZEU Airbus A319111 2283 EasyJet G-EZIA Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet G-EZNM Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet HA-LKP Boeing 7375Y0 25289 SkyEurope Hungary HB-JZH Airbus A319111 2230 EasyJet Switzerland LY-DOT Aerospatiale ATR 42312 176 Aerocondor OM-SEA Boeing 7375Y0 25186 SkyEurope Airlines Toulouse 1130-1715 AJ Pilatus PC-7 French Air Force CN-RNG Boeing 7375B6 27679 Royal Air Maroc CS-TLN SAAB 2000 016 PGA Express D-ACLD Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7009 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPA Canadair Regional-Jet700 10012 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPL Canadair Regional-Jet700 10076 Lufthansa Regional D-APAA Airbus A319132LR 1947 Privatair D-APAB Airbus A319132LR 1955 Privatair EC-IBM Canadair Regional-Jet200ER 7591 Air Nostrum F-GFQY Socata TB-20 779 Private F-GGEA Airbus A320111 0010 Air France F-GGEF Airbus A320111 0004 Air France F-GHQB Airbus A320211 0036 Air France F-GHQR Airbus A320211 0377 Air France F-GJXD Socata TB-10 1497 Private F-GKGA Aerospatiale SN 601 11 Corporate F-GLPT Swearingen SA.226TMerlin IIIB T-298 Airlec Air Espace F-GOHF Embraer ERJ-135ER 145347 Air France F-GPMA Airbus A319113 0598 Air France F-GPMA Airbus A319113 0598 Air France F-GPSN Swearingen SA.227ACMetro III AC-758B Champagne Airlines F-GRGE Embraer ERJ-145EU 145047 Air France F-GRGF Embraer ERJ-145EU 145050 Air France F-GRGP Embraer ERJ-135ER 145188 Air France F-GRHB Airbus A319111 0985 Air France F-GRHX Airbus A319111 1524 Air France F-GRZH Canadair Regional-Jet700 10089 Air France F-GUYH Boeing 737329 23771 Aigle Azur F-ZVMQ CASA 101 French Air Force G-BMRC Boeing 757236F 24072 DHL Worldwide Courier Express G-EZBS Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet G-EZEU Airbus A319111 2283 EasyJet G-EZEU Airbus A319111 2283 EasyJet G-JECG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4098 flybe. G-RJXF Embraer ERJ-145EP 145280 British Midland Regional HA-FAD Fokker F-27500 10449 Farnair Hungary OO-DJT British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2294 SN Brussels Airlines PH-BDC Boeing 737306 23539 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KZH Fokker F-70 11583 KLM cityhopper Airbus Factory 659 Airbus Industrie A330/340 659 Qatar Airways 661 Airbus Industrie A330/340 661 EVA Airways 663 Airbus Industrie A330/340 663 Northwest Airlines 853 Airbus Industrie A300/310 853 United Parcel Service Company B-16308 Airbus Industrie A330/340 EVA Airways EC-JFG Airbus Industrie A318-321 Iberia EC-JFH Airbus Industrie A318-321 Iberia F-BPPA Boeing 377SGT-201 002 Preserved F-BVFC BAC/SUD Concorde101 209 Preserved F-GSTA Airbus A300B4-608ST 655 Airbus Skylink F-GSTB Airbus A300B4-608ST 751 Airbus Skylink F-GSTC Airbus A300B4-608ST 765 Airbus Skylink F-GSTF Airbus A300B4-608ST 796 Airbus Skylink F-GZCO Airbus Industrie A330/340 667 Air France F-GZCP Airbus Industrie A330/340 660 Air France F-OIQN ATR Air Tahiti F-WHPS Airbus A300B4-203 238 Leasing Company F-WWAI Airbus A340300 001 Airbus Industrie F-WWBA Airbus A320131 0001 Airbus Industrie F-WWBH Airbus Industrie A330/340 F-WWCB Airbus A340642 672 Iberia F-WWCF Airbus A340642 626 South African Airways F-WWCN Airbus A340642 689 Thai A/L F-WWDA Airbus Industrie A318-321 America West Airlines F-WWDB Airbus Industrie A318-321 Iberia F-WWDG Airbus Industrie A318-321 Iberia F-WWEY Aerospatiale ATR 72212A 098 ATR F-WWIA Airbus A318121 1599 Airbus Industrie F-WWIB Airbus Industrie A318-321 Jetstar Asia F-WWIZ Airbus Industrie A318-321 Aer Lingus F-WWKJ Airbus Industrie A330/340 Air France F-WWKO Airbus Industrie A330/340 Eurofly F-WWKQ Airbus Industrie A330/340 666 F-WWXZ Airbus Industrie A330/340 F-WWYY Airbus Industrie A330/340 HS-TLA Airbus Industrie A330/340 Thai A/L OK-KFM ATR Cheers Chris >From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. 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From jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 07:21:46 2005 From: jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hall) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:21:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Blackpool 2/4/05 Message-ID: <009101c5377e$89da4fc0$e6e02b52@STEVEHALL> Just arriving at Blackpool at 1318 local is D-ICBB Cessna 340,parking on the main apron, Hope this helps, Steve From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 07:22:52 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:23:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Paris Orly & Geneva 23/03/05 Message-ID: <61C60ACD50EB8EF44BB8CC4AF17A46C1@chrisball.easy.com> Paris Orly 0545-0845 6V-AHO Boeing 7377BX 30739 Air Senegal International 7T-VJY Airbus Industrie A330/340 Air Algerie CS-TQH Airbus A320211 0023 Air Luxor F-BTDG Boeing 7472B3B 22514 Air France F-GFUG Boeing 7374B3 24750 Corsair F-GGEE Airbus A320111 0016 Air France F-GKHD Fokker F-100 11381 Brit Air F-GKYN Aerospatiale ATR 42312 095 Airlinair F-GPMA Airbus A319113 0598 Air France F-GPYF Aerospatiale ATR 42512 495 Air France F-GPYL Aerospatiale ATR 42512 542 Airlinair F-GRJC Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7085 Air France F-GRYL Beech 1900D UE-301 Twin Jet F-GRZF Canadair Regional-Jet700 10036 Air France F-OPTP Airbus A330223 240 Air Caraibes G-EZBS Airbus Industrie A318-321 EasyJet HB-JZH Airbus A319111 2230 EasyJet Switzerland Geneva 0900-1700 A7-AAF Airbus A310304 473 Qatar Airways CS-DFD Dassault Falcon2000 174 NetJets Europe CS-DFM Cessna 560 560-5257 NetJets Europe CS-DFY Hawker-Siddeley 125800XP 258663 NetJets Europe CS-DHG Cessna 550/551 550-1034 NetJets Europe CS-DHK Cessna 550/551 550-1090 NetJets Europe CS-DHO Cessna 550/551 550-1099 NetJets Europe CS-DNP Dassault Falcon2000 109 NetJets Europe CS-TJG Airbus A321211 1713 TAP Air Portugal CS-TNK Airbus A320214 1206 TAP Air Portugal D-ABXN Boeing 737330 23872 Lufthansa D-ABXU Boeing 737330 24282 Lufthansa D-ACPO Canadair Regional-Jet700 10085 Lufthansa Regional D-ADHE de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4066 Lufthansa Regional D-AIQD Airbus A320231 0202 Lufthansa D-AQUA British Aerospace 146-300 E3118 Lufthansa Regional D-BDTM de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-314 545 Lufthansa Regional D-CRIS IAI AstraSPX 107 Corporate EC-GRM Douglas MD87 49829 Iberia EC-HDP Airbus A320214 1101 Iberia EC-IBK Beech 350 FL-328 Gestair EC-ICR Airbus A320211 0240 Iberia EI-CVA Airbus A320214 1242 Aer Lingus F-GFKD Airbus A320111 0014 Air France F-GFKJ Airbus A320211 0063 Air France F-GFKU Airbus A320211 0226 Air France F-GGAL Cessna 650 650-0117 Corporate F-GJVG Airbus A320211 0270 Air France F-GJVG Airbus A320211 0270 Air France F-GMVE SAAB 2000 040 Air France F-GOHF Embraer ERJ-135ER 145347 Air France F-GTAD Airbus A321211 0777 Air France F-GTAI Airbus A321211 1299 Air France G-BZAT British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3320 British Airways G-CELD Boeing 73733A 23832 Jet 2 G-CELH Boeing 737330 23525 Jet 2 G-CFAF British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3382 British Airways G-CJAE Cessna 560 560-0046 Corporate G-DOCZ Boeing 737436 25858 British Airways G-ERJC Embraer ERJ-145EP 145253 British Airways CitiExpress G-EUOG Airbus A319131 1594 British Airways G-EUPC Airbus A319131 1118 British Airways G-EUPE Airbus A319131 1193 British Airways G-EUPF Airbus A319131 1197 British Airways G-EUPY Airbus A319131 1466 British Airways G-EUUM Airbus A320232 1907 British Airways G-EZAM Airbus A319111 2037 EasyJet G-EZJA Boeing 73773V 30235 EasyJet G-EZJI Boeing 73773V 30241 EasyJet G-EZJK Boeing 73773V 30246 EasyJet G-EZJS Boeing 73773V 32414 EasyJet G-EZJS Boeing 73773V 32414 EasyJet G-GFFC Boeing 737505 24272 British Airways G-IAMS Cessna 560 560-5183 London Executive Aviation G-LOFC Lockheed L-188CF 1100 Atlantic Airlines HA-LNC Canadair Regional-Jet200ER 7784 MALEV Express HB-DGW Mooney M.20J 24-1621 Private HB-FPK Pilatus PC-12-45 513 Pilatus HB-GHD Beech F90 LA-50 Corporate HB-HFF FFA AS 20215-1 107 Private HB-HGB FFA AS 20218A-1 130 Private HB-IFJ Dassault Falcon900EX 92 Corporate HB-IGL Dassault Falcon900 58 Corporate HB-IIO Boeing 7377AK 29865 Privatair HB-IIP Boeing 7377AK 29866 Privatair HB-IJI Airbus A320214 0577 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IJO Airbus A320214 0673 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IJU Airbus A320214 1951 Swiss Sun HB-IOK Airbus A321111 0987 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IOL Airbus A321111 1144 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IPY Airbus A319112 0621 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IQG Airbus A330223 275 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXF British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2226 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXP British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3283 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXS British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3280 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXS British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3280 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXV British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3274 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXV British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3274 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXW British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3272 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXW British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3272 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IZH SAAB 2000 011 Darwin Airline HB-JEB IAI GalaxyG200 032 Corporate HB-JEJ de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-315 546 Flybaboo HB-JEK de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-315 549 Flybaboo HB-JZF Airbus A319111 2184 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZG Airbus A319111 2196 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZH Airbus A319111 2230 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZI Airbus A319111 2245 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZJ Airbus A319111 2265 EasyJet Switzerland HB-KIW Beech F33A CE-1286 Private HB-LBL Cessna 310F 310-0102 HB-LTS Partenavia P.68B 69 Corporate HB-OGN Piper J/3C 65 11768 HB-OZV Piper PA-28180 28-4613 Private HB-PEJ Piper PA-32R-301 3213007 Private HB-PFE Piper PA-28181 28-8090314 Private HB-PFS Piper PA-28181 28-8190083 Private HB-PGN Piper PA-28161 28-8216134 Private HB-PID Piper PA-28181 28-8490084 Private HB-PIU Piper PA-46310P 46-8608047 Private HB-PLD Piper PA-46310P 4608123 Private HB-PLL Piper PA-28161 2816057 Private HB-VAZ Hawker-Siddeley 125Series 3B 25130 HB-VCN Rockwell Sabreliner65 465-32 Corporate HB-VJI Learjet 31 31-011 Corporate HB-VLR Learjet 31A 31-127 Corporate HB-VMB Learjet 45 45-021 TAG Aviation HB-VMV Cessna 560 560-0166 Corporate HB-VMX Cessna 550/551 550-0946 Corporate HB-VNA Cessna 560 560-0280 Corporate HB-VNB Cessna 560 560-0271 Corporate HB-VNP Cessna 525 525-0499 Corporate HB-VNZ Cessna 550/551 550-0906 Jet Aviation Business Jets HB-XOW Agusta-Bell AB.206B-2 8515 HB-ZDR Eurocopter AS.365N3 6584 Swift Copters HB-ZDR Eurocopter AS.365N3 6584 Swift Copters I-EXMI Embraer ERJ-145LR 145286 Alitalia Express I-NOWT Aerospatiale ATR 42312 054 Avianova J-2314 Dassault Mirage IIIS 1004 Preserved J-4085 Hawker HunterF.58 41H/697452 Preserved JY-AGK Airbus A310308 573 Royal Jordanian Airlines JY-AGM Airbus A310304 491 Royal Jordanian Airlines LX-DSL Learjet 45 45-158 Corporate LX-EAR Learjet 31A 31-160 Corporate LX-GEX Bombardier Global ExpressBD-700-1A10 9013 Corporate LX-JFF Socata TBM700 212 Corporate LX-LFA Dassault Falcon900B 154 Corporate LX-MRC Cessna 525 525-0473 Corporate LX-OMC Learjet 31A 31-167 Corporate LX-VAZ Cessna 550/551 550-0622 Corporate N187PN Dassault Falcon50 187 Corporate N324B Bombardier 6013A 5069 Corporate N328PT Dornier Do.328310 3199 Leasing Company N333EC Dassault Falcon900B 106 Corporate N403HP Piper PA-46350P 4636312 Private N414EM Cessna 414A 414A-0500 Private N45WF Piper PA-46350P 4636214 Private N57384 Mooney M.20J 24-1447 Private N57543 Piper PA-31P-425 31P-7630011 Corporate N594RJ Bombardier 6013A 5029 Corporate N601AD Bombardier 6013R 5186 Corporate N680GA Gulfstream G5 680 Corporate N68160 Boeing 767224ER 30439 Continental Airlines N71FB Learjet 31A 31-205 Corporate N875CD Cirrus Design SR-22 0282 Private OE-LCM Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7205 Austrian Arrows OE-LGE de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4042 Tyrolean Airways OH-FEX Dassault Falcon2000EX 27 Corporate OO-DJS British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2292 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DJZ British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2305 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DWD British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3324 SN Brussels Airlines OO-VEN Boeing 73736N 28586 Virgin Express OO-VEX Boeing 73736N 28670 Virgin Express OY-CKE Cessna 650 650-7070 Corporate OY-CKE Cessna 650 650-7070 Corporate OY-KCF de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4062 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KCG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4063 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHG Douglas MD82 49613 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-MLZ Boeing 737 Maersk Air PH-BDK Boeing 737306 23545 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BTA Boeing 737406 25412 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXA Boeing 7378K2 29131 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KZC Fokker F-70 11566 KLM cityhopper RA-09004 Dassault Falcon20C 170 Corporate SE-LBL Mooney M.20R 29-0044 Private SP-LGO Embraer ERJ-145MP 145560 LOT Polish Airlines SX-BOB Boeing 7172K9 55053 Olympic Aviation T-721 Beech B350C FN-1 Swiss Air Force T-741 de Havilland Canada DHC-6300 466 Swiss Air Force TC-JGD Boeing 7378F2 29788 THY Turkish Airlines TC-SUO Boeing 73786Q 30272 SunExpress TJ-AHZ Cessna 441 441-0001 Corporate UR-CCC Dassault Falcon50 235 Corporate VN-A143 Boeing 77726KER 33502 Vietnam Airlines VP-BBJ Boeing 73772U 29273 Corporate VP-BHN Boeing 7378AN 32438 Corporate VP-BMV Corporate VP-BOR Gulfstream G3 484 Corporate VP-BWI Airbus A320214 2163 Aeroflot Russian Airlines VP-CID Dassault Falcon900B 130 Corporate YU-BSM Cessna 550/551 550-0808 Corporate Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From monster.hunter at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 07:24:29 2005 From: monster.hunter at virgin.net (Monster Hunter) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:24:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG BHX 01-02/04/05 Message-ID: <002201c5377e$f38edbc0$ff490352@h> Hi all, not posted much as late as its all been covered but as its a bit quiet here today,so here's a few jottings.. OM-NSH B767 Stil not been scapped OM-SNA B757 OM-DGK B757 I'ts gone after almost four months, pushed back just after midnight and departed followed by SNA,. OK-BGQ B737/4 EI-DFG EMB 170 G-BVKD B737 G-OZBE A321 G-FCLI B757 G-OBYE B76 G-OBYL B767 G-JEDT DHC-8 G-JEDV DHC-8 G-JEDL DHC-8 G-JRDK DHC-8 G-OBMP B737 G-SMTJ A321 G-VCED A320 G-FHAJ A320 D-AVRF Bobby davro avrojet G-JEBE Bae146 D-ABXTB737 EI-CWB Bae146 G-CDUO B757 N12114 B757 screen N14115 B757 screen D-AHIC AScreen @1015 G-NETA CIT 1645 CS-DNY CIT 1730 G-CEAC B737 2130 5B-DBI 2140 PLUS EI-DDE 146 0815 EI-CSL 146@1015 EI-CMY 146 @2105 Kip time H.. H@BHX "The last of the Aviation Playboys" H1 BHX Rover 220 Coupe Turbo TRIP ON?? tripon@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tripon __________________________________________________________ Please note, This e-mail contains proprietary information some or all of which may be legally privileged. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 07:30:09 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:30:16 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Geneva 24/03/05 Message-ID: <7AA74F8F1F8C9614DB2DEB38262CAFA4@chrisball.easy.com> Geneva 0900-1700 4X-EAA Boeing 767258 22972 El Al-Israel Airlines 7T-VJU Boeing 7376D6 30211 Air Algerie 9K-AND Airbus A340313 104 Kuwait Airways CS-DFB Dassault Falcon900 94 NetJets Europe CS-DHD Cessna 550/551 550-1017 NetJets Europe CS-DHK Cessna 550/551 550-1090 NetJets Europe CS-DHM Cessna 550/551 550-1093 NetJets Europe CS-DNT Hawker-Siddeley 125800XP 258468 NetJets Europe CS-DNT Hawker-Siddeley 125800XP 258468 NetJets Europe CS-DNW Cessna 560 560-5221 NetJets Europe CS-TNN Airbus A320232 1816 TAP Air Portugal CS-TTE Airbus A319111 0821 TAP Air Portugal D-ABEU Boeing 737330 27904 Lufthansa D-ABXR Boeing 737330 23875 Lufthansa D-ADHB de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4029 Lufthansa Regional D-AEWE British Aerospace 146-200 E2077 Lufthansa Regional D-BLUE Cessna 750 750-0140 Corporate D-CROB Learjet 60 60-261 Cirrus Air D-CSIE Learjet 31A 31-207 Corporate D-CWHS Learjet 60 60-246 Corporate D-IEIR Cessna 500/501 501-0259 Corporate EC-FCB Airbus A320211 0158 Iberia EC-FEZ Douglas MD87 53207 Iberia EC-GRI Airbus A320211 0177 Iberia EC-HRQ Hawker-Siddeley 125700B 257166 Corporate F-GFKH Airbus A320211 0061 Air France F-GFKH Airbus A320211 0061 Air France F-GFKV Airbus A320211 0227 Air France F-GMVE SAAB 2000 040 Air France F-GNCP Cessna 550/551 550-0004 Corporate F-GOHF Embraer ERJ-135ER 145347 Air France F-GTAE Airbus A321211 0796 Air France F-GTAI Airbus A321211 1299 Air France F-GZUJ Cessna 525A 525A-0200 LeadairUnijet F-ORMH Airbus A321231 1967 Middle East Airlines G-CELD Boeing 73733A 23832 Jet 2 G-CELH Boeing 737330 23525 Jet 2 G-CFAA British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3373 British Airways CitiExpress G-CJAE Cessna 560 560-0046 Corporate G-DOCU Boeing 737436 25854 British Airways G-ERJC Embraer ERJ-145EP 145253 British Airways CitiExpress G-EUPK Airbus A319131 1236 British Airways G-EUPT Airbus A319131 1380 British Airways G-EUPU Airbus A319131 1384 British Airways G-EUXF Airbus A321231 2324 British Airways G-EZDC Airbus A319111 2043 EasyJet G-EZJL Boeing 73773V 30247 EasyJet G-EZJN Boeing 73773V 30249 EasyJet G-EZJR Boeing 73773V 32413 EasyJet G-EZKD Boeing 73773V 32425 EasyJet G-EZYP Boeing 73733V 29340 EasyJet G-JJSI Hawker-Siddeley 125800B 258058 GAMA Aviation G-LOFC Lockheed L-188CF 1100 Atlantic Airlines G-OTDA Boeing 73731S 29266 flyglobespan G-SIRS Cessna 560 560-5185 London Executive Aviation HA-LME Fokker F-70 11575 MALEV HB-CCG Reims-Cessna FR.182 0016 HB-IBH Dassault Falcon2000 42 Corporate HB-IDJ Canadair Regional-JetSE 7136 Corporate HB-IEE Boeing 75723A 24527 Privatair HB-IGR Dassault Falcon50 104 Corporate HB-IGY Dassault Falcon900EX 95 Corporate HB-IIO Boeing 7377AK 29865 Privatair HB-IIP Boeing 7377AK 29866 Privatair HB-IJJ Airbus A320214 0585 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IJL Airbus A320214 0603 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IJQ Airbus A320214 0701 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IPT Airbus A319112 0727 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IPX Airbus A319113 0612 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IQC Airbus A330223 249 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IQH Airbus A330223 288 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IUX Dassault Falcon900EX 54 Corporate HB-IXF British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2226 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXP British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3283 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IXW British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3272 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IYY British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3339 Swiss International Air Lines HB-IZH SAAB 2000 011 Darwin Airline HB-JEB IAI GalaxyG200 032 Corporate HB-JEJ de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-315 546 Flybaboo HB-JEK de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-315 549 Flybaboo HB-JMG Airbus A340313X 562 Swiss International Air Lines HB-JZF Airbus A319111 2184 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZG Airbus A319111 2196 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZH Airbus A319111 2230 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZI Airbus A319111 2245 EasyJet Switzerland HB-JZJ Airbus A319111 2265 EasyJet Switzerland HB-LTI Piper PA-31T 31T-8020091 Corporate HB-LTL Piper PA-34220T 3449157 Private HB-VMB Learjet 45 45-021 TAG Aviation HB-VMB Learjet 45 45-021 TAG Aviation HB-VMJ Cessna 550S S550-0029 Corporate HB-VNB Cessna 560 560-0271 Corporate HB-VND Cessna 560 560-5106 Corporate HB-VNZ Cessna 550/551 550-0906 Jet Aviation Business Jets HB-XOW Agusta-Bell AB.206B-2 8515 HB-ZCX Aerospatiale AS.350B3 3105 Corporate I-EXME Embraer ERJ-145LR 145282 Alitalia Express I-NOWT Aerospatiale ATR 42312 054 Avianova LN-RMO Douglas MD81 53315 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LX-COS Dassault Falcon900B 159 Corporate LX-DSL Learjet 45 45-158 Corporate LX-EAR Learjet 31A 31-160 Corporate N187PN Dassault Falcon50 187 Corporate N205AB SIAI-Marchetti S.20518R 211 Private N67158 Boeing 767224ER 30437 Continental Airlines N68GA Hawker-Siddeley 125600A 256047 Corporate N71FB Learjet 31A 31-205 Corporate N737CC Boeing 73774Q 29135 Corporate OE-GHP Cessna 550/551 550-0998 Corporate OE-LFI Fokker F-70 11529 Tyrolean Airways OE-LRG Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7063 Austrian Arrows OO-DWB British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3315 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DWK British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3360 SN Brussels Airlines OY-KCG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4063 SAS Scandinavian Airlines PH-BDA Boeing 737306 23537 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BDG Boeing 737306 23542 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KZL Fokker F-70 11536 KLM cityhopper PR-BBS Boeing 7377BC 32575 Corporate RA-09004 Dassault Falcon20C 170 Corporate SP-LGF Embraer ERJ-145MP 145308 LOT Polish Airlines TC-JFI Boeing 7378F2 29771 THY Turkish Airlines TS-IPA Airbus A300B4-605R 558 Tunis Air VP-BBJ Boeing 73772U 29273 Corporate VP-BHN Boeing 7378AN 32438 Corporate VP-BKH Gulfstream G4 1029 Corporate VP-BKZ Gulfstream G5 602 Corporate VP-BWD Airbus A320214 2116 Aeroflot Russian Airlines Cheers Chris From 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This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From harry.morrow at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 08:25:05 2005 From: harry.morrow at ntlworld.com (Yorkshire Aviation Group) Date: Sat Apr 2 08:29:59 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG+REQ: NEWCASTLE + A FEW OTHER NE FIELDS References: <008801c5356f$cda67f50$13060050@hdmmvw> <007f01c5377b$e5e19b00$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> Message-ID: <003c01c53788$0e22f8a0$13060050@hdmmvw> Thanks for your help Steve. HARRY YORKSHIRE AVIATION GROUP (Please note could you be kind enough to ask for permission before using any of this info). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barnes" To: "Yorkshire Aviation Group" ; Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] LOG+REQ: NEWCASTLE + A FEW OTHER NE FIELDS >+ 1 req R22 in hanger where 737-200 is parked it is maroon and white and >> was parked next to G-OMMG) > > G-ROUT was parked in this spot this morning - standard R.22 maroon/white > cls. > > Regards, > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yorkshire Aviation Group > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:27 PM > Subject: [CAE] LOG+REQ: NEWCASTLE + A FEW OTHER NE FIELDS > > >> HI ALL, >> >> A run out to Newcastle was in order today to catch up with the TU-154, > after >> waiting 3 days for some decent weather we finally had to pick the most >> miserable and foggy day of the week, as the TU-154 was to depart today. >> >> Coney Park >> N911DN Bell Helicopters UH-1H Corporate >> (ex 67-17426) This Huey is parked near to the road but please go ask for >> permission if you want to photograph it. >> >> We spent a few hours at Newcastle and saw the following >> 4K-85732 Tupolev Tu-154M Imair >> EI-CNX Boeing 737230 Ryanair >> F-GRZJ Canadair Regional-Jet700 Air France >> G-BAPV Robin DR.400160 Private >> G-BFMH Cessna 177B Private >> G-BOEW Robinson R22 Private >> (This was found at Northumbrian Helicopter in a very poor state does not >> look as if it will ever fly again) >> G-BSSE Piper PA-28140 Private >> G-BVEZ BAC Jet ProvostT.3A Private >> G-BYAX Boeing 757204 ThomsonFly >> G-BYYG Slingsby T.67C1 Private >> G-CBBS Scottish Aviation SA.120T.1 Private >> G-CDEB SAAB 2000 Eastern Airways >> G-CDFF Aerospatiale ATR 42320 Air Wales >> G-CELW Boeing 737377F Channel Express >> G-CPEM Boeing 757236 British Airways >> G-CPEN Boeing 757236 British Airways >> G-EZJD Boeing 73773V EasyJet >> G-EZJH Boeing 73773V EasyJet >> G-EZJX Boeing 73773V EasyJet >> G-GBTB Boeing 737436 British Airways >> G-GLUG Piper PA-31-350 Champagne Air >> G-HBMW Robinson R22 Private >> G-ICAB Robinson R44 Private >> G-JARA Robinson R22 Private >> G-JEAX British Aerospace 146-200 flybe. >> G-JECG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 flybe. >> G-MAJK British Aerospace Jetstream 41 Eastern Airways >> G-MAJL British Aerospace Jetstream 41 Eastern Airways >> G-OMMG Robinson R22 Private >> LN-WFC de Havilland Canada DHC-8311 Wideroes >> N14HF Maule MT-7235 Private >> N58HK Cessna 550/551 Corporate >> N999F Beech F33A Private >> OY-MBJ Canadair Regional-Jet200LR Cimber Air >> PH-BDA Boeing 737306 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines >> + 1 req R22 in hanger where 737-200 is parked it is maroon and white > and >> was parked next to G-OMMG) >> >> Currock Hill >> We were allowed a very brief look in the hanger as the people who were >> around at the time were locking up for the day, also managed to >> photograph >> the cushion craft) >> BGA3203 PZL-Bielsko SZD-50-3 Private >> BGA759 Slingsby T.41 Private >> G-BXST Piper PA-25235C Private >> XW249 Britten-Norman CC-7 Preserved >> + 1 req ? /GEL Gilder >> >> Peterlee >> Thanks to Richard for the tip off, regarding the Nomad, we got a full >> tour >> of the aircraft by the Danish pilot who was very accommodating, he also >> showed us around the hanger, further more he told us he was going back > home >> in a couple of weeks but another pilot would be flying the Nomad for the >> most of the summer from Peterlee but they can visit other places as well, >> the aircraft is too big to fit in the hanger to it can be viewed from the >> car park. >> G-AZOE Victa AirtourerT.2 Private >> G-HALT Mainair PegasusQuik Private >> G-MNUX Solar Wings PegasusXL-R Private >> G-MTMI Solar Wings PegasusXL-R/Se Private >> G-MWZJ Solar Wings PegasusXL-R Private >> G-MYBE Solar Wings PegasusQuasar IITC Private >> G-MYPY Solar Wings PegasusQuantum 15 Private >> G-MYXN Mainair Blade Private >> G-MZIT Mainair Blade912 Private >> G-PLEE Cessna 182Q Private >> OY-NMH GAF NomadN24A Private >> >> Teeside >> D-EBWL Socata MS.894A Private >> G-BASN Beech C23 Private >> G-FRAL Dassault Falcon20DC FR Aviation >> G-FRAS Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation >> G-FRAT Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation >> G-FRAU Dassault Falcon20C FR Aviation >> PH-KZM Fokker F-70 KLM cityhopper >> >> Standard-Northallerton >> No one at home where was you Paul we called at 1600 and the pub was shut. >> >> Final call at Leeds >> CS-DFR Cessna 560 NetJets Europe >> D-ITAN Cessna 525 Corporate >> N601HW Bombardier 6013R Corporate >> >> HARRY >> >> YORKSHIRE AVIATION GROUP >> (Please note could you be kind enough >> to ask for permission before using any >> of this info). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 > From john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Apr 2 08:46:18 2005 From: john2482004 at yahoo.co.uk (john hargreaves) Date: Sat Apr 2 08:46:21 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: EMA - 01 April 05 - 2115:2250 Message-ID: <20050402134618.7939.qmail@web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Noted this evening were- Cargo East Channel Express G-CEXH UPS N331UP Emerald G-BVOV BGMO TNT OO-TZC TZD Star Air / UPS OY-USB Main Apron BMI baby G-OGBE TOYB ECAS Easyjet G-IGOS IGOK First Choice G-OOAV Brittania G-BYAI BMI Regional G-RJXB Maintenance Area Turkish TC-JMC ( ex G-MIDA) G-MIDF both in full colour scheme Cargo West RAF Avia YL-RAB KS Avia YL-KSB Gemini N703GC DHL OO-DIC DLG DHL G-BIKG BMRH Islandsflug TF-ELA Jet2.com titles on tail Lufthansa Cargo D-ALCQ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From andrew at acupitt.plus.com Sat Apr 2 09:24:33 2005 From: andrew at acupitt.plus.com (Andrew) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:24:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log: East Midlands/Egginton/Tatenhill 2-4-05 Message-ID: <000201c5378f$b0eab530$0e01a8c0@andrew> registration Model con operator East Midlands Airport =09 G-BGMO Avro 7482A/347 1767 Emerald Airways G-BIKF Boeing 757236F 22177 DHL Worldwide Courier Express G-BMRF Boeing 757236F 24101 DHL Worldwide Courier Express G-BMRJ Boeing 757236F 24268 DHL Worldwide Courier Express G-BRGT Piper PA-32260 32-658 Private G-BTHV Bolkow Bo-105DBS-4 S-855 Emergency Medical Service G-BVMA Beech 200 BB-797 Corporate G-BYAR Boeing 757204 27237 ThomsonFly G-MIDF Airbus A321231 0810 THY Turkish Airlines colours OO-DPL Boeing 757236F 24267 DHL Worldwide Courier Express TC-JMC Airbus A320 THY Turkish Airlines colours YL-KSB Antonov An-74 36547136013 KS Avia Also seen two light twins, the regs, weren=92t in view, and Gemini MD11F to tie up. Egginton Airfield - Nice and pleasant shown completely around by a chap, who also showed me G-ACSP De Haviland Comet DH88 which is on re-build. =09 G-ALTO Cessna 140 14253 Private G-ARAX Piper PA-22150 22-3830 Private G-ARFB Piper PA-22150 22-7518 Private G-ARKN Piper PA-22108 22-8327 Private G-ARWS Cessna 175C 57102 Private G-ASOK Reims-Cessna F.172E 0057 Private G-AVLM Beagle B121150 B003 Private G-AXIE Beagle B121150 B087 Private G-AXJI Beagle B121150 B090 Private G-AZCN Beagle B121150 B156 Private G-AZFA Beagle B121150 B143 Private G-AZTF Reims-Cessna F.177RG 0054 Private G-BCLW American Aviation AA-1B 0463 Private G-BDBF Clutton FREDII PFA/1528 Private G-BGXR Robin HR.200100 53 Private G-BHAV Reims-Cessna F.152 1633 Private G-BHXA Scottish Aviation SA.1201210 407 Private G-BHZS Scottish Aviation SA.1201210 411 Private G-BJXZ Cessna 172N 172-73039 Private G-BNCO Piper PA-38112 38-79A0472 Private G-BNHK Cessna 152 152-85355 Private G-BNMD Cessna 152 152-83786 Private G-BRND Cessna 152 152-83776 Private G-BSUD Luscombe 8A 1745 Private G-BSWH Cessna 152 152-81365 Private G-BWFX Europa Europa PFA 247-12586 Private G-BYBD Reims-Cessna F.172H 0487 Private G-CBBU Scottish Aviation SA.120T.1 360 Private G-CBME Reims-Cessna F.172M 1060 Private G-DACF Cessna 152 152-81724 Private G-FIJJ Reims-Cessna F.177RG 0031 Private G-GBFR Reims-Cessna F.177RG 0172 Private G-KWAX Cessna 182E 182-53808 Private G-ODAC Reims-Cessna F.152 1824 Private G-TFSA Reims-Cessna F.152 1825 Private Tatenhill Airfield =09 G-APUZ Piper PA-24250 24-1094 Private G-ATFF Piper PA-23250 27-2898 Private G-AWBX Reims-Cessna F.150H 0286 Private G-AXIF Beagle B121150 B088 Private G-BFRR Reims-Cessna FRA.150M 0326 Private G-BHRM Reims-Cessna F.152 1718 Private G-BJOA Piper PA-28181 28-8290048 Private G-BNPZ Cessna 152 152-85134 Private G-BORO Cessna 152 152-83767 Private G-BPBG Cessna 152 152-84941 Private G-BXTT American Aviation AA-5B 0749 Private G-BYDB Grob 115B 8025 Private G-DSPI Robinson R44 0661 Private LY-BIG Antonov An-2T 1G236-23 Private N55BN Beech 95-B55 TC-1572 Private --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 =20 From pinktristar at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 09:26:56 2005 From: pinktristar at yahoo.com (Geoff Cook) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:26:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050402142656.76385.qmail@web50201.mail.yahoo.com> I support Mike Vass here.. If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a problem! In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know which cities they serve.. Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike may have done!! I didnt think an apology was needed.. Okay I feel better now! Geoff Looking for New York Airport info? Try this site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From andrew at acupitt.plus.com Sat Apr 2 09:45:23 2005 From: andrew at acupitt.plus.com (Andrew) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:45:23 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers In-Reply-To: <20050402142656.76385.qmail@web50201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c53792$99dd0980$0e01a8c0@andrew> I disagree I wouldn=92t know where ORD is or at least not until all this had gone = on, I don=92t know what JNB stands for either, ok I might be able to assume what the other 3 are, sometimes assuming can work out to be a bad thing. Also if I were to go anywhere I wouldn=92t go looking up what 3 or even = 4 letter code for the airport is either. Why should a 50 year old need to know the code ORD, am I in for something good when I get to 50 a free holiday there perhaps. Will my memory change and suddenly I will know all the 3 letter codes in the world. Personally then I would not have a problem. So myself I think I would rather stick to the rules and state the airport/airfield name. No mistake made then. Thanks Andrew -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Cook Sent: 02 April 2005 15:27 To: aviationlist Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers I support Mike Vass here.. If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a problem!=20 In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know which cities they serve..=20 Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike may have done!!=20 I didnt think an apology was needed.. Okay I feel better now! Geoff=20 =20 Looking for New York Airport info? Try this site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd =09 __________________________________=20 Do you Yahoo!?=20 Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.=20 http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com=20 and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at=20 http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 =20 From kierangildea at dsl.pipex.com Sat Apr 2 09:53:34 2005 From: kierangildea at dsl.pipex.com (Kieran) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:53:41 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV Cardiff 2/4/05 Message-ID: <003301c53793$bf5758e0$93645651@acerzxy76m1imk> 'NJE950G' a Cessna 560XL is inbound just now from Faro. Cheers, Kieran From pinktristar at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 10:07:14 2005 From: pinktristar at yahoo.com (Geoff Cook) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:07:15 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050402150714.98328.qmail@web50203.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Alexis, I just had another email from someone who says he doesnt know any of the codes I sent!! And to think they removed Terri Shiavo's feeding tube! I do get disappointed on the rare chances I head home to see Mum, and visit LHR!! If you dare ask a spotter the reg of an aircraft on the field, especially if its BA, the look of disdain is quite telling! These same guys then come across the Atlantic, and expect us to know every aircraft on the ground at JFK or EWR (look em up!). I love the list, it has certainly helped tip me off to moves coming into New England, or New York. I try and ignore that attitude, and like Mike in Dallas, and other spotters around the US, I want to help out, by giving a tour ! Ahh well, thats people for you! Geoff UUU RI! Looking for New York Airport info? Try this site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 10:15:58 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:16:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Northolt & Booker 25/03/2005 Message-ID: <9C2D7FD1E2C495545BB824AD68B3C1C1@chrisball.easy.com> Northolt @ 1500 G-ELNX CRJ Eurolynx Corp. Booker 1530-1620 G-AISX Piper J/3C 65 11663 Private G-ASSF Cessna 182G 182-55593 Private G-AVOZ Piper PA-28180 28-3711 Private G-AWAZ Piper PA-28R-180 28R-30512 Private G-AWMF Piper PA-18180 18-8674 Private G-AZRA Bolkow Bo.209150FF 192 Private G-BBMZ de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0563 Private G-BCBG Piper PA-23250 27-7305224 Private G-BCPU de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0839 Private G-BFPR Piper PA-25235D 25-7856007 Private G-BGPN Piper PA-18150 18-7909044 Private G-BHDP Reims-Cessna F.182Q 0131 Private G-BHSE Rockwell Commander 114 14161 Private G-BHUU Piper PA-25235D 25-8056035 Private G-BHUU Piper PA-25235D 25-8056035 Private G-BIFA Cessna 310R 310R-1606 Private G-BILJ Reims-Cessna FA.152 0376 Private G-BJHB Mooney M.20J 24-1190 Private G-BLGH Robin DR.300180R 570 Private G-BLRD Bolkow Bo.209150FV 101 Private G-BMIV Piper PA-28R-201T 28R-7703154 Private G-BMXL Piper PA-38112 38-80A0018 Private G-BNCR Piper PA-28161 28-8016111 Private G-BNRY Cessna 182Q 182-65629 Private G-BODR Piper PA-28161 28-8116318 Private G-BOSN Aerospatiale AS.355F1 5266 Corporate G-BRRN Piper PA-28161 28-8216043 Private G-BRWT Scheibe SF-25C 44480 Private G-BRZK Stinson 108-2 108-2846 Private G-BSAI Stoddard-Hamilton GlasairIII 3102 Private G-BSSX Piper PA-28161 2816056 Private G-BSVG Piper PA-28161 28-8516013 Private G-BSVG Piper PA-28161 28-8516013 Private G-BTSM Cessna 180A 32678 Private G-BWTH Robinson R22 1767 Private G-BXGL de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0924 Private G-BXGV Cessna 172R 172-80240 Private G-BXNG Beech 58 TH-874 Private G-BXNH Piper PA-28161 28-7816314 Private G-BXXN Robinson R22 0720 Private G-BYEM Cessna R.182 R182-00822 Private G-BYHE Robinson R22 2023 Private G-BZXY Robinson R44 1027 Private G-CCGE Robinson R22 3453 Private G-CURR Cessna 172R 172-80143 Private G-ENNK Cessna 172S 172S-8538 Private G-EORG Piper PA-38112 38-78A0427 Private G-FEZZ Agusta-Bell AB.206B-3 8317 Corporate G-GEEP Robin R.1180TD 266 Private G-HALP Socata TB-10 192 Private G-IIIT Aerotek S-2A Special 2222 Private G-JBII Robinson R22 1368 Private G-JLEE Agusta-Bell AB.206B-3 8588 Corporate G-MICI Cessna 182S 182-80546 Private G-MOVI Piper PA-32R-301 32R-8313029 Private G-NEUF Bell Helicopters 206L-1 45548 Corporate G-ODAC Reims-Cessna F.152 1824 Private G-OPTF Robinson R44 10235 Private G-PLBI Cessna 172S 172S-8822 Private G-PTTS Aerotek S-2A Special 2179 Private G-SALA Piper PA-32300 32-7940106 Private G-SHUG Piper PA-28R-201T 28R-7703048 Private G-TATY Robinson R44 0627 Private G-TBAH Bell Helicopters 206B-2 2051 Corporate G-TLEL American Blimp Co A-60+ 003A Lightship Group G-TOLY Robinson R22 2809 Private G-WACB Reims-Cessna F.152 1972 Private G-WACE Reims-Cessna F.152 1978 Private G-WACF Cessna 152 152-84852 Private G-WACH Reims-Cessna FA.152 0425 Private G-WACI Beech 76 ME-289 Private G-WACJ Beech 76 ME-278 Private G-WACR Piper PA-28180 28-7505090 Private G-WACU Reims-Cessna FA.152 0380 Private G-WACY Reims-Cessna F.172P 2217 Private G-WIZR Robinson R22 2799 Private G-XATS Aerotek S-2A Special 2147 Private G-YFZT Cessna 172S 172S-9587 Private N147VC Cirrus Design SR-22 0689 Private N418WS Beech 58 TH-1967 Private N425DR Cessna 425 425-0199 Corporate N565F Aerospatiale SA.341G 1182 Corporate OK-0927 Letov LF-107 39 VP-BJT Cessna 425 425-0027 Corporate WB654 de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0097 WB726 de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0178 WK609 de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0618 WP803 de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0697 WP840 de Havilland Canada DHC-1 C1/0723 WV499 Percival ProvostT.1 PAC/F/062 WW421 Percival ProvostT.1 PAC/F/234 XF314 Hawker HunterF.4 HABL003075 XM172 English Electric LightningF.1A 95059 Preserved Cheers Chris >From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From jim at birch25.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 2 10:16:42 2005 From: jim at birch25.freeserve.co.uk (Jim Birch) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:16:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers References: <20050402150714.98328.qmail@web50203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <040401c53796$f9f4a8b0$c9634e51@CONSTELLATION> Geoff, don't paint us all over here with the same brush, most of us are only too happy to help. Regards Jim Birch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Cook" To: ; "aviationlist" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > > Hey Alexis, > > I just had another email from someone who says he > doesnt know any of the codes I sent!! > > And to think they removed Terri Shiavo's feeding tube! > > I do get disappointed on the rare chances I head home > to see Mum, and visit LHR!! > > If you dare ask a spotter the reg of an aircraft on > the field, especially if its BA, the look of disdain > is quite telling! These same guys then come across the > Atlantic, and expect us to know every aircraft on the > ground at JFK or EWR (look em up!). > > I love the list, it has certainly helped tip me off to > moves coming into New England, or New York. > > I try and ignore that attitude, and like Mike in > Dallas, and other spotters around the US, I want to > help out, by giving a tour ! > > Ahh well, thats people for you! > > Geoff > UUU RI! > > > > > > Looking for New York Airport info? Try this > site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup > > Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header > page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 10:17:56 2005 From: raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net (Raymond Lancaster) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:17:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] CHICAGO O'HARE 3 LETTER CODE Message-ID: <008501c53797$2606dae0$0100000a@SHUTTLEMAN> If Chicago is such a brilliant busy place, why is their 3 letter code not COH? What has ORD got to do with it? By the way, COH represents a little airport somewhere in India. (I looked it up using the Vault) Ray (#1A shuttleman) From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 10:23:55 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:24:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Berlin (Tegal, Schonefeld & Tempelof) 26/03/2005 Message-ID: Berlin Schonefeld 1000-1030 9A-CTJ Airbus A320214 1009 Croatia Airlines D-AICH Airbus A320212 0971 Thomas Cook Airlines D-ALTD Airbus A320214 1493 LTU EI-DCS Boeing 7378AS 33812 Ryanair G-EJJB Airbus A319111 2380 EasyJet G-EZEP Airbus A319111 2251 EasyJet G-EZIA Airbus A319 111 2420 EasyJet G-EZJS Boeing 73773V 32414 EasyJet LZ-ASZ Antonov An-24B 27307903 Aviostart RA-85204 Tupolev Tu-154M 91A886 Pulkovo Aviation TC-APZ Boeing 737809 29103 Pegasus Airlines Berlin Tegal 1145-1715 D-ABAQ Boeing 73786J 28071 Air Berlin D-ABBD Boeing 73786J 30880 Air Berlin D-ABBI Boeing 73786J 32920 Air Berlin D-ABBN Boeing 73776Q 30293 Air Berlin D-ABBO Boeing 73786J 30827 Air Berlin D-ABEI Boeing 737330 25359 Lufthansa D-ABEL Boeing 737330 25415 Lufthansa D-ABXW Boeing 737330 24561 Lufthansa D-ABXX Boeing 737330 24562 Lufthansa D-ABXZ Boeing 737330 24564 Lufthansa D-ACHF Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7431 Lufthansa Regional D-ACJA Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7122 Lufthansa Regional D-ACJJ Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7298 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLE Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7010 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLE Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7010 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLZ Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7121 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPR Canadair Regional-Jet700 10098 Lufthansa Regional D-ADIB Boeing 73736Q 30334 DBA D-ADIC Boeing 73736Q 30335 DBA D-ADIF Boeing 7373L9 25125 DBA D-AGEE Boeing 73735B 24238 DBA D-AGEN Boeing 73775B 28100 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGPE Fokker F-100 11300 Air Berlin D-AGPK Fokker F-100 11313 Germania D-AGPN Fokker F-100 11333 Germania D-AHID Boeing 73773S 29080 Hamburg International D-AHLH Boeing 7378K5 30783 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHLI Boeing 7375K5 25037 Air Zena D-AIAX Airbus A300B4-605R 773 Lufthansa D-AIQC Airbus A320231 0201 Lufthansa D-AIQP Airbus A320211 0346 Lufthansa D-ANFA Aerospatiale ATR 72202 224 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRO British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2246 Lufthansa Regional D-BNNN Aerospatiale ATR 42512 551 Lufthansa Regional EC-HYC Airbus A320214 1262 Iberia F-GFKH Airbus A320211 0061 Air France F-GJNC Boeing 737528 25228 Air France F-GUGE Airbus A318111 2100 Air France G-BUSI Airbus A320211 0103 British Airways G-ERJA Embraer ERJ-145EP 145229 British Airways CitiExpress G-EUOA Airbus A319131 1513 British Airways HB-IPS Airbus A319112 0734 Swiss International Air Lines I-EXMU Embraer ERJ-145LR 145316 Alitalia Express LN-RDG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4022 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDI de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4024 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-APL Boeing 7375L9 28996 DBA OY-KCF de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4062 SAS Scandinavian Airlines PH-KZH Fokker F-70 11583 KLM cityhopper TC-JER Boeing 7374Y0 26073 THY Turkish Airlines TC-OGE Airbus A320214 0764 Atlas Jet International TC-ONJ Airbus A321111 0385 Shaheen Air International Berlin Tempelhof @1815 D-AGPM Fokker F-100 11331 Germania Cheers Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From pinktristar at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 10:25:02 2005 From: pinktristar at yahoo.com (Geoff Cook) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:25:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] O'HARE - history lesson - and my last on the subject on list!! In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050402152502.35741.qmail@web50206.mail.yahoo.com> Ray, Via google, the history of ORD!! http://www.airwise.com/airports/us/ORD/ORD_07.html Looking for New York Airport info? Try this site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 10:31:59 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:32:07 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Hamburg, Rostock-Laage & Lubeck 27/03/2005 Message-ID: Rostock-Laage @ 1000 71+22 Bell Helicopters UH-1D 8182 German Army D-BOBY de Havilland Canada DHC-8102 177 Cirrus Air D-EDYB Bucker Bu.181B-1 25085 Private D-EHPI Piper PA-28140 28-25752 Private D-EOTB Robin DR.400180 1607 Private D-ESFW HOAC KatanaDV20 20056 Private Lubeck @ 1115 D-EEDT Reims-Cessna F.172M 0919 Private D-EHUS Reims-Cessna FR.172F 0138 Private D-EIVQ Reims-Cessna F.172M 1504 Private D-ENFC Piper PA-18135 18-3830 Private D-EOCH Fuji FA-200180 140 Private D-EUCH HOAC KatanaDV20 20083 Private OY-III Reims-Cessna F.172H 0377 Private Hamburg 1400-1600 7T-VJX Airbus Industrie A330 Air Algerie D-ABBB Boeing 73786J 32624 Air Berlin D-ABBE Boeing 73786J 30881 Air Berlin D-ABBL Boeing 73785F 28821 Air Berlin D-ABES Boeing 737330 26432 Lufthansa D-ABID Boeing 737530 24818 Lufthansa D-ABOA Boeing 757330 29016 Condor D-ABVF Boeing 747430 24761 Lufthansa D-ACLU Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7104 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPK Canadair Regional-Jet700 10063 Lufthansa Regional D-ADII Boeing 737329 23775 DBA D-ADIJ Boeing 7373M8 25041 DBA D-AEWB British Aerospace 146-300 E3183 Lufthansa Regional D-AGER Boeing 73775B 28107 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGPD Fokker F-100 11281 Germania D-AGPM Fokker F-100 11331 Germania D-AHFD Boeing 7378K5 27978 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHFG Boeing 7378K5 27989 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHFV Boeing 7378K5 30415 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHFX Boeing 7378K5 30416 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHLH Boeing 7378K5 30783 Hapag-Lloyd D-AIAX Airbus A300B4-605R 773 Lufthansa D-AIPE Airbus A320211 0078 Lufthansa D-AIRT Airbus A321131 0652 Lufthansa D-BHAM de Havilland Canada DHC-8311A 313 Cirrus Air D-BMMM Aerospatiale ATR 42512 546 Lufthansa Regional D-HTWO Eurocopter EC135P2 0343 Corporate EI-CDD Boeing 737548 24989 Aer Lingus EI-SLC Aerospatiale ATR 42312 082 Air Contractors F-GRXC Airbus A319111 1677 Air France G-EUUI Airbus A320232 1871 British Airways HB-IYY British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3339 Swiss International Air Lines LN-RDJ de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4010 SAS Scandinavian Airlines PH-KZO Fokker F-70 11538 KLM cityhopper PH-KZP Fokker F-70 11539 KLM cityhopper TC-JLD Airbus A320214 0574 THY Turkish Airlines YL-BAR Fokker F-50 20149 Air Baltic Hamburg 1645-1800 D-ABAI Boeing 73746J 28038 Air Berlin D-ACHB Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7391 Lufthansa Regional D-ACHD Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7403 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLU Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7104 Lufthansa Regional D-ADIJ Boeing 7373M8 25041 DBA D-AHLZ Airbus A310204 468 Hapag-Lloyd D-AIPU Airbus A320231 0135 Lufthansa D-AIQW Airbus A320211 1367 Lufthansa D-APAA Airbus A319132LR 1947 Privatair HB-IXO British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3284 Swiss International Air Lines OH-LVK Airbus A319112 2124 Finnair RA-85835 Tupolev Tu-154M 98A1015 Pulkovo Aviation SP-LGE Embraer ERJ-145MP 145285 LOT Polish Airlines V8-AC3 Airbus A340213X 204 Brunei Government Z3-AAF Boeing 7373B7 23858 Macedonian Airlines Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 10:37:21 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:37:28 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Berlin Schonefeld & Luffwaffe Museum 28/03/2005 Message-ID: <753DBF71EC4603342A6717E8E39B0DFB@chrisball.easy.com> Visited the Luffwaffe museum today calling in at Schonefeld on way past at 1000. If anyune would like the Luffwaffe museum log, please email me directly and I will forward it. D-ABIP Boeing 737530 24940 Lufthansa D-AICA Airbus A320212 0774 Thomas Cook Airlines D-ECPA Piper PA-28181 2843357 Private EI-DCT Boeing 7378AS 33813 Ryanair EI-DEJ Airbus A320214 2364 Aer Lingus EW-46483 Antonov An-24RV 27308101 Gomelavia G-EZEZ Airbus A319111 2360 EasyJet G-OHAJ Boeing 73736Q 29141 EasyJet LZ-ASZ Antonov An-24B 27307903 Aviostart VP-BDN Airbus A319111 2072 Aeroflot Russian Airlines Chris >From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 10:40:47 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:40:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Copenhagen 28/03/2005 (Short) Message-ID: <3997BFB0A0F2A8246BA8A30021580B86@chrisball.easy.com> Logged on arrival from the terminal at 2100. F-GJNC Boeing 737528 25228 Air France G-EZNC Airbus A319111 2050 EasyJet G-OMUC Boeing 73736Q 29405 EasyJet LN-RDD de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4009 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDJ de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4010 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDP de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4012 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROY Douglas MD82 49615 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OO-DWK British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3360 SN Brussels Airlines OY-GRN Airbus A330223 230 Air Greenland OY-KBE Airbus A321231 1798 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBH Airbus A321231 1675 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHF Douglas MD87 49609 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-MRI Boeing 7377L9 28014 Maersk Air OY-SEA Boeing 7378Q8 28213 Sterling European PH-BPC Boeing 7374Y0 24468 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines SE-DMG Douglas MD90-30 53461 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-RDR Douglas MD82 49151 Nordic Airlink Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. 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From louiseandandrew at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 10:41:20 2005 From: louiseandandrew at ntlworld.com (Andrew Hampshire) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:41:34 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Stored at Perpignan Message-ID: <000b01c5379a$6bd83570$88a60450@userhome> Diverted to Perpignan instead of Girona, not even the right country but outside the EAS facility were F-GGGR BELAIR Boeing 727 F-GCGQ BELAIR Boeing 727 5T-CLP AIR MAURITANIE Boeing 727 N359PA unknown Boeing 727 Required, also seen were the following AIR GABON Boeing 737-200 unknown Boeing 737-200 Green and Yellow horizontal stripes (no engines) Air Caribes? unknown Boeing 737 Dark blue tail white body (in the smmaller hanger) FREEBIRD MD (no engines) Any info on the above would be gratefully received Andy Hampshire From raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 10:56:59 2005 From: raymond.lancaster1 at virgin.net (Raymond Lancaster) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:57:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] 3 LETTER CODES Message-ID: <00ba01c5379c$9a904860$0100000a@SHUTTLEMAN> A big thank you to all who advised/put me straight on ORD. A special one to Geoff for putting up with me! Ray (#1A shuttleman) From superspotter at btopenworld.com Sat Apr 2 07:13:04 2005 From: superspotter at btopenworld.com (Clive) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:59:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG for Le Bourget Saturday 02/04/05 Message-ID: Hi All; Just the one visit again today. Seen between 10:25-11:30:- Signature (apron Kilo):- N490QS G4 N6240V Mooney G-BYHM 125 OE-INF CL6 CS-DHN Ce550 On P1 (disused runway 26):- Nothing On Dassault (apron delta) F-WQBL F2TH F-GKDB F20 F-GSER F50 F-GNMF F900 ZS-DAV F900 F-GOAL F50 HZ-OFC4 F900 Dassault Hanger (apron delta):- UR-CCB F20 F-GBTM F20 J469 F20 F-GELT F20 + others not determined Roundhouse (Dassault):- F-GYOL F900 F-GMOT F50 (engine runs) F-HALM F900 F-GHDT F20 (reg not applied) D-BDNL F2TH V5-NAM F900 MM62021 F50 F-GIPH F100 LX-LFB F900 (engine runs) VP-CFL F900 + others not determined On Citation centre/Omega (apron echo):- N560AG Ce560 F-GIXB B737 F-GIXJ B737 D-IPVD Ce525 F-GRNB B737 On Euralair (fox 1) TC-RMK F2TH HB-VIS Ce550 LX-SVW F2TH F-GTRY Ce525 On Privatair (fox 2):- F-HADR B90 Beside Privatair hangar (fox 3):- YL-MAR 125 G-VUEA Ce550 G-HRDS G550 Aero Stock (apron N):- F-GPIA ATR-42 F-GGGT Ce550 Air Enterprise (apron L):- F-GUFP B200 Darta (apron kilo 1):- F-GLNE B1900 F-GTRB Metro F-GPSN Metro Leadair (apron Juliet) Nothing Embraer (apron Juliet) Nothing On Universal (apron H):- N426PG CL6 N730LM F900 N371BC BBJ2 C-FBNS CL6 On Aero Services (apron T):- 5A-DCK Corvette LX-YSL Ce525 F-GGPR B200 F-GSEB B200 F-GPNJ F900 F-GJBZ F50 F-GKBZ F50 F-GPPF F900 F-GYSL F20 On apron G:- P4-YJR B727 Based aircraft (usually hangared):- LX-PAK BD700 LX-ZAK F900 F-GVML BD700 F-GRAK Bell412 LX-FBY CL6 HB-IVM F2TH HB-IVN F2TH F-GPUJ Ce525 F-GZUJ Ce525 F-GGVB F50 F-HAXA F900 F-HBFP 125 F-GNDZ F10 That?s your lot for today! Regards clive. From superspotter at btopenworld.com Sat Apr 2 07:25:31 2005 From: superspotter at btopenworld.com (Clive) Date: Sat Apr 2 10:59:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] RE: LOG for Le Bourget Saturday 02/04/05 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don?t believe that I have made the same mistake again re: N426PG should read N462PG, I will be glad when this aircraft has left!! -----Original Message----- From: Clive [mailto:superspotter@btopenworld.com] Sent: 02 April 2005 13:13 To: Cae; Alst Subject: LOG for Le Bourget Saturday 02/04/05 Hi All; Just the one visit again today. Seen between 10:25-11:30:- Signature (apron Kilo):- N490QS G4 N6240V Mooney G-BYHM 125 OE-INF CL6 CS-DHN Ce550 On P1 (disused runway 26):- Nothing On Dassault (apron delta) F-WQBL F2TH F-GKDB F20 F-GSER F50 F-GNMF F900 ZS-DAV F900 F-GOAL F50 HZ-OFC4 F900 Dassault Hanger (apron delta):- UR-CCB F20 F-GBTM F20 J469 F20 F-GELT F20 + others not determined Roundhouse (Dassault):- F-GYOL F900 F-GMOT F50 (engine runs) F-HALM F900 F-GHDT F20 (reg not applied) D-BDNL F2TH V5-NAM F900 MM62021 F50 F-GIPH F100 LX-LFB F900 (engine runs) VP-CFL F900 + others not determined On Citation centre/Omega (apron echo):- N560AG Ce560 F-GIXB B737 F-GIXJ B737 D-IPVD Ce525 F-GRNB B737 On Euralair (fox 1) TC-RMK F2TH HB-VIS Ce550 LX-SVW F2TH F-GTRY Ce525 On Privatair (fox 2):- F-HADR B90 Beside Privatair hangar (fox 3):- YL-MAR 125 G-VUEA Ce550 G-HRDS G550 Aero Stock (apron N):- F-GPIA ATR-42 F-GGGT Ce550 Air Enterprise (apron L):- F-GUFP B200 Darta (apron kilo 1):- F-GLNE B1900 F-GTRB Metro F-GPSN Metro Leadair (apron Juliet) Nothing Embraer (apron Juliet) Nothing On Universal (apron H):- N426PG CL6 N730LM F900 N371BC BBJ2 C-FBNS CL6 On Aero Services (apron T):- 5A-DCK Corvette LX-YSL Ce525 F-GGPR B200 F-GSEB B200 F-GPNJ F900 F-GJBZ F50 F-GKBZ F50 F-GPPF F900 F-GYSL F20 On apron G:- P4-YJR B727 Based aircraft (usually hangared):- LX-PAK BD700 LX-ZAK F900 F-GVML BD700 F-GRAK Bell412 LX-FBY CL6 HB-IVM F2TH HB-IVN F2TH F-GPUJ Ce525 F-GZUJ Ce525 F-GGVB F50 F-HAXA F900 F-HBFP 125 F-GNDZ F10 That?s your lot for today! Regards clive. From paul.smith2000 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 2 06:38:05 2005 From: paul.smith2000 at tiscali.co.uk (Paul Smith) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:00:22 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG & REQ Cambridge 1-4-05 Message-ID: <006401c53778$7005aaf0$2e3a2950@dadno1pc> A visit to Cambridge yesterday logged the majority of what was visible, the request is for the other 2 C130H outside the Marshall's hangar when I arrived at about 1300. G-UFCB Cessna 172S Skyhawk SP 172S8318 G-HERC Cessna 172S Skyhawk SP 172S8985 F-GFGH Rallye G-NEWS BELL 206 JETRANGER 02547 Lanthwaite Aviation Ltd N9SZ Cirrus SR-22 1232 G-BAJO American AA-5 Traveler AA5-0260 G-BPYO Piper PA-28-181 Archer II 2890114 G-BVKR SIKORSKY S-76 760115 Bristow Helicopters Ltd XV205 LOCKHEED 100 HERCULES 4230 Royal Air Force, 48 Squadron R4118 HAWKER HURRICANE G5-92301 G-OTYP Piper PA-28-180 Challenger 28-7305166 G-CDAW ROBINSON R-22 3703 Aeromega Ltd ZD953 LOCKHEED L1011 TRISTAR 1174 Royal Air Force G-BKMA Mooney M.20J 201 24-1316 G-BOPH Cessna R182 Turbo Skylane RG R18201031 G-BNYS BOEING 767 24013 Excel Airways N511TC CESSNA CITATIONJET 525-0074 Semitool Europe arrived 1455 G-SHWK Cessna 172S Skyhawk SP 172S9642 N8159Q Cirrus SR-20 1388 N741CD Cirrus SR-22 0137 G-UFCD Cessna 172S Skyhawk SP 172S8443 N3032W Beech V35B Bonanza D-9525 G-BWZT Europa Aviation Europa PFA 247-12727 G-BFWB Piper PA-28-161 Warrior II 28-7816584 G-IRPC Cessna 182Q Skylane 18266039 G-JASE Piper PA-28-161 Warrior II 28-8216056 N4500L PIPER PA-31-350 CHIEFTAIN 31-8052155 Rosefly Inc Trustee N6182G Cessna 172N Skyhawk 17273576 N702AR SOCATA TBM700 275 Isnet Aviation Inc, Trustee G-LUXE BAE 146 E3001 Directflight Ltd G-EFSM Slingsby T.67C Firefly 2072 G-DASH Rockwell Commander 112A 237 N8403Y PIPER PA-30 TWIN COMANCHE 30-1552 Daniel Yoshpe G-BZNY Europa Aviation Europa XS PFA 247-13355 G-BMVG QAC Quickie 1 PFA 094-10749 G-BAIG PIPER PA-34 SENECA 34-7250243 Mid Anglia Flying School Ltd G-RHHT Piper PA-32RT-300 Lance II 32R-7885190 G-FPLC CESSNA 441 CONQUEST 441-0207 Flight Precision Ltd Hope this is of use to some of you, any help with the 2 Herc's much appreciated, I know not civil but someone may have them. cheers Paul Smith -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From indianabones4 at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 10:33:54 2005 From: indianabones4 at ntlworld.com (indianabones4) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:00:40 2005 Subject: [CAE] China 01/04/05 Message-ID: <000e01c53799$6299ae90$8dcd6051@default> Hi All A request from a travelling friend, he wrote:- "In Qindao China yesterday (1st April) and saw two Cessna 208 floatplanes, both definitely B-????? Both aircraft had letters "SBJ" on top of tail . Any ideas out there? Thanks for any help in advance. Best regards Dave S From marcel.van.den.berg at hetnet.nl Sat Apr 2 11:07:02 2005 From: marcel.van.den.berg at hetnet.nl (Marcel van den Berg) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:07:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa Message-ID: Hi, To pay attention to Lufthansa's 50th birthday the airline painted Airbus A321 D-AIRX in a retro-livery. See http://www.airliners.net/open.file/808390/M/ for a picture. The aircraft will visit London Heathrow Sunday (April 3rd) on the LH4728/4729 schedule from Frankfurt. Arrival 1310 local time, departure 14.10 Source: www.airliners.net Best wishes, Marcel http://www.spottersunited.com From Smithoag at aol.com Sat Apr 2 11:32:01 2005 From: Smithoag at aol.com (Smithoag@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:32:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG & REQ Cambridge 1-4-05 Message-ID: Hi Paul, sorry can't help with the Hercs,but I think you'll find the Hurricane is civvie reg'd as G-HUPW Colin Oxfordshire Aviation Group www.communigate.co.uk/oxford/oag From mbae35 at dial.pipex.com Sat Apr 2 11:36:58 2005 From: mbae35 at dial.pipex.com (Dave Hopkins) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:38:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] Logs: Barcelona area 24-29 March Message-ID: <012e01c537a2$5396f980$b19cbc3e@dave01> Time for some relaxation and excellent local food meant spending Easter near Barcelona this year. The following were noted (excluding Iberia) Barcelona 24/3/04 - 1140 am EC-GAT DC9 Spanair EC-HHP DC9 Spanair EC-IDA B737 Air Europa EC-ISE B737 Air Europa EC-JDK A320 Vueling EI-DEE A320 Aer Lingus HB-JZJ A319 Easyjet I-EEZC A320 Eurofly 4X-EBY B757 Sun d'Or Unfortunately 25R was un use which meant we were going too fast past the GA area to read anything off from here. Sitges 25/5 EC-ZBK Pulsar along the beach at about 100 ft agl Sitges 26/3 EC-IVT R44 Raven 2 along the beach at about 100 ft agl Sitges 27/3 EC-ICE Cessna 172 - somewhat more conventional 1000 ft plus ! Barcelona 29/3 - 1145-1355 CS-DFT C560 D-ABBE B737 Air Berlin D-ABIZ B737 Lufthansa D-AILI A319 German Wings D-AIRL A321 Lufthansa D-AKNY A320 German Wings EC-FXY DC9 Spanair EC-GOM DC9 Spanair EC-GPS Metro EC-GTO DC9 Spanair EC-GTS C500 EC-GVO DC9 Spanair EC-HGJ DC9 Spanair EC-HNY B717 German Wings EC-HOA B717 AeBal EC-ICD B737 Air Europa EC-IDA B737 Air Europa EC-IEB C525A EC-IIP Cheyenne EC-IKZ RJ200 Air Nostrum EC-ILK Learjet 45 EC-INJ C501 EC-IOH A320 Spanair - Star Alliance c/s EC-IPV Fk100 Girjet EC-IRA B737 Air Europa EC-IRB C525 EC-ISE B737 Air Europa EC-ISN B737 Air Europa EC-IZD A320 Vueling EC-JBB F900 EC-JCG RJ200 Air Nostrum EC-JDK A320 Vueling EC-JDO A320 Vueling EC-JEE RJ200 Air Nostrum EC-JFO PC12-45 EI-DEE A320 Aer Lingus EI-DFP A320 Meridiana F-GTAE A321 Air France G-EZDC A319 Easyjet G-EZEW A319 Easyjet G-EZEX A319 Easyjet G-EZJZ B737 Easyjet G-EZYM B737 Easyjet G-OJEG A321 Monarch HB-JZF A319 Easyjet I-DATJ DC9 Alitalia I-SMEM DC9 Meridiana N174DN B767 Delta OE-LVB Fk100 Austrian Arrows OH-WIN F20F OK-VSZ C550 OK-YGU B737 CSA PH-BXE B737 KLM PH-DMQ DHC8 Air Nostrum PH-FZG Fk50 Air Nostrum PH-FZH Fk50 Air Nostrum PH-JXN Fk50 Air Nostrum PH-RRF Fk50 Air Nostrum TC-JKA B737 THY YK-AKD A320 Syrian Best wishes Dave From paul.jenky at btopenworld.com Sat Apr 2 12:16:00 2005 From: paul.jenky at btopenworld.com (paul.jenky) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:07:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG BLACKPOOL 02/04/05 Message-ID: <001001c537a7$a51af2c0$1508a8c0@user> BLACKPOOL Sat 2nd April ///////////////////////////////////////// 11:35-13:45 ////////////////// D-ICBB CES3?? EI-CNZ 732 FR G-BEJD HS748 G-BGMN HS748 G-OMAP COMMANDER 685 G-OOSI CES404 G-RACI? BE90 G-SSWA SH330 JEM G-SSWO SH360 JEM G-VBAC SH360 (All White. ops for?) N345SF BEECH A36 N92562 PA46 XL391 VULCAN (Still in decaying state) Plus a stored HS748 on far side of field. Cheers Jenky Atherton Aviation Group --------------------------------------- 03/04/05 -Batley Bulldogs v Leigh Centurions (Challenge Cup) 15:00hrs K.O 28/03/05 Leigh 24 London 22 . From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 12:08:07 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:08:14 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG & INFO: Copenhagen 29/03/2005 Message-ID: <3EDB6D79D3889C44DBB82F9AC69B5F20@chrisball.easy.com> Spent the day in a very chilly Copenhagen. We took a taxi to the fabled Flyvergrillen. This spot is good for both photography and logging. The owners are very friendly and speak excellent english. Food and drink is of good quality at a descent price. The taxi cost approx ?6 each way. There is a toilet and picnic tables here. We had both lunch and tea here, but were not bothered at all for the rest of the day while we set up on one of the picnic tables. However, the local taxi drivers are still are not 100% sure where the flyvergrillen is. Our driver advised us to ask in future for the flyvergrillen just off AMAGER LANDEVEJ as there are two possible locations. Copenhagen 0830-2100 102004 Gulfstream G4SP 1274 Swedish Air Force 9H-ADI Boeing 73733A 27460 Air Malta 9V-SVG Boeing 777212ER 30872 Singapore Airlines CS-TNI Airbus A320214 0982 TAP Air Portugal D-ACJE Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7165 Lufthansa Regional D-AIRU Airbus A321131 0692 Lufthansa D-AISB Airbus A321131 1080 Lufthansa D-AVRC British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2251 Lufthansa Regional D-CNAG Swearingen SA.227DCMetro 23 DC-893B OLT EC-GVI Douglas MD83 49936 Spanair EC-HQG Airbus A320214 1379 Iberia EC-IIZ Airbus A320232 1862 Spanair EC-IOH Airbus A320232 1998 Spanair EI-CVA Airbus A320214 1242 Aer Lingus ES-ABI Boeing 7375L9 29234 Estonian Air F-GFKD Airbus A320111 0014 Air France F-GFKH Airbus A320211 0061 Air France F-GJNM Boeing 737528 25237 Air France F-GJNN Boeing 737528 27304 Air France F-GRJJ Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7190 Air France F-GRJP Canadair Regional-Jet100ER 7301 Air France G-CTLA Airbus A321211 1887 MyTravel G-EUPN Airbus A319131 1261 British Airways G-EUPT Airbus A319131 1380 British Airways G-EUPV Airbus A319131 1423 British Airways G-EUXC Airbus A321231 2305 British Airways G-EZBS Airbus A319111 2387 EasyJet G-EZEW Airbus A319111 2300 EasyJet G-EZMH Airbus A319111 2053 EasyJet G-OBYH Boeing 767304ER 28883 ThomsonFly G-RJXG Embraer ERJ-145EP 145390 British Midland Regional HA-LOP Boeing 7377Q8 29354 MALEV HB-IXO British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3284 Swiss International Air Lin HB-JAT Embraer ERJ-145LU 145564 Swiss International Air Lines I-DAWF Douglas MD82 49200 Alitalia I-DAWI Douglas MD82 49194 Alitalia LN-PIP Douglas DC-832/33 45256 Private LN-RDD de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4009 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDF de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4021 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDG de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4022 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDH de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4023 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDI de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4024 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RDK de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4025 SAS Scandinavian 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53001 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-RNM Fokker F-50 20199 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROR Douglas MD82 49385 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROS Douglas MD82 49421 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROU Douglas MD82 49424 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROW Douglas MD82 49438 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROX Douglas MD82 49603 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-ROY Douglas MD82 49615 SAS Scandinavian Airlines LN-WDA de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4069 Wideroes LN-WDB de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4070 Wideroes LN-WDC de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4071 Wideroes LN-WFA de Havilland Canada DHC-8311A 342 Wideroes LN-WFB de Havilland Canada DHC-8311A 293 Wideroes LX-LGL Embraer ERJ-135LR 14500893 Luxair LX-LGY Embraer ERJ-145LU 145242 Luxair LX-LGZ Embraer ERJ-145LU 145258 Luxair LY-AGQ Boeing 737524 26339 Lithuanian Airlines LY-SBD SAAB 2000 023 Lithuanian Airlines OE-LVA Fokker F-100 11490 Austrian Arrows OE-LVF Fokker F-100 11483 Austrian Arrows OH-LXF Airbus A320214 1712 Finnair OH-LZB Airbus A321211 0961 Finnair OH-SAI British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2385 Blue1 OH-SAM British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3386 Blue1 OH-SAN British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3387 Blue1 OH-SAP British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2394 Blue1 OH-SAU SAAB 2000 043 Blue1 OH-SAW SAAB 2000 046 Blue1 OK-GEA Airbus A320 CSA Czech Airlines OK-XGE Boeing 73755S 26543 CSA Czech Airlines OO-DJS British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2292 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DJT British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2294 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DJZ British Aerospace 146-RJ85 E2305 SN Brussels Airlines OO-DWK British Aerospace 146-RJ100 E3360 SN Brussels Airlines OY-APB Boeing 7375L9 28084 Maersk Air OY-APK Boeing 7375L9 28995 DBA OY-BHT Embraer Emb-110P2 110161 Scan Con Airways OY-CIG Aerospatiale ATR 42312 019 Cimber Air OY-CIN Aerospatiale ATR 72212A 568 Cimber Air OY-CIR Aerospatiale ATR 42312 107 Danish Air Transport OY-CRG British Aerospace 146-200 E2075 Atlantic Airway OY-GRN Airbus A330223 230 Air Greenland OY-KBA Airbus A340313X 435 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBB Airbus A321232 1642 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBC Airbus A340313X 467 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBD Airbus A340313X 470 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBE Airbus A321231 1798 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBF Airbus A321232 1807 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBH Airbus A321231 1675 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBK Airbus A321232 1587 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBL Airbus A321231 1619 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBM Airbus A340313X 450 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KBN Airbus A330343X 496 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KCD de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4054 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KCH de Havilland Canada DHC-8Q-402 4064 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHC Douglas MD82 49436 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHF Douglas MD87 49609 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHG Douglas MD82 49613 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHI Douglas MD87 49614 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHU Douglas MD87 53336 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHU Douglas MD87 53336 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KHW Douglas MD87 53348 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-KIM Douglas MD90-30 53460 SAS Scandinavian Airlines OY-MAE Boeing 7375L9 25066 Maersk Air OY-MAE Boeing 7375L9 25066 Maersk Air OY-MBI Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7436 Cimber Air OY-MBJ Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7442 Cimber Air OY-MLW Boeing 73773S 29078 Maersk Air OY-MLY Boeing 737 Maersk Air OY-MLZ Boeing 737 Maersk Air OY-MRF Boeing 7377L9 28009 Maersk Air OY-MRH Boeing 7377L9 28013 Maersk Air OY-MRJ Boeing 7377L9 28015 Maersk Air OY-MRK Boeing 7377L9 28012 Maersk Air OY-MRK Boeing 7377L9 28012 Maersk Air OY-MRL Boeing 7377L9 28011 Maersk Air OY-RCB British Aerospace 146-200 E2094 Atlantic Airways OY-RJA Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7413 Cimber Air OY-RJB Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7419 Cimber Air OY-RTC Aerospatiale ATR 72202 508 Cimber Air OY-RTF Aerospatiale ATR 72202 496 Cimber Air OY-RTG Aerospatiale ATR 72202 157 Cimber Air OY-SEA Boeing 7378Q8 28213 Sterling European OY-SEB Boeing 7378Q8 28214 Sterling European OY-SEC Boeing 7378Q8 28221 Sterling European OY-SED Boeing 7378Q8 28237 Sterling European OY-SEI Boeing 73785H 29445 Sterling European OY-UCA Cessna 525A 525A-0209 Corporate OY-VKR Airbus A320214 1942 MyTravel PH-BDR Boeing 737406 24514 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BDZ Boeing 737406 25355 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BPB Boeing 7374Y0 24344 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXA Boeing 7378K2 29131 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXE Boeing 7378K2 29595 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-MCM Boeing 76731AER 26470 Martinair PH-XRY Boeing 7377K2 33463 Transavia S5-AAB Airbus A320231 0113 Adria Airways S5-AAH Canadair Regional-Jet100LR 7032 Adria Airways SE-DIB Douglas MD87 49605 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DIF Douglas MD87 49606 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DIP Douglas MD87 53010 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DIR Douglas MD81 53004 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DIS Douglas MD81 53006 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DIU Douglas MD87 53011 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DMG Douglas MD90-30 53461 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-DVU Boeing 73785F 28825 Novair SE-ISL SAAB 340A 130 Skyways SE-ISR SAAB 340A 017 Skyways SE-LEA Fokker F-50 20116 Skyways SE-LEL Fokker F-50 20110 Skyways SE-LIP Fokker F-50 20147 Skyways SE-LTR Fokker F-50 20226 Swe Fly SE-RDR Douglas MD82 49151 Nordic Airlink SE-REE Airbus A330343X 515 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-REG Airbus A321232 1848 SAS Scandinavian Airlines SE-RFA Douglas MD83 49623 Nordic Airlink SE-RFB Douglas MD82 53246 Nordic Airlink SP-LDC Embraer Emb-170100ST 17000025 LOT Polish Airlines SP-LDE Embraer Emb-170100LR 17000029 LOT Polish Airlines SP-LGE Embraer ERJ-145MP 145285 LOT Polish Airlines TC-JFP Boeing 7378F2 29778 THY Turkish Airlines TF-FIH Boeing 757208 24739 Icelandair TF-FIX Boeing 757308 29434 Icelandair TS-IMF Airbus A320211 0370 Tunis Air YL-BAR Fokker F-50 20149 Air Baltic YL-BBB Boeing 737505 24273 Air Baltic YL-BBG Boeing 737548 24919 Air Baltic Cheers Chris >From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. This email service is available to all members of the public to use for personal reasons only. Not all subscribers to this e-mail service are representatives of an easyGroup company. From User727730 at aol.com Sat Apr 2 12:09:05 2005 From: User727730 at aol.com (User727730@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:09:14 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Hinton in the Hedges Sat 02Apr05 Message-ID: <1c6.25bb8bac.2f802bb1@aol.com> Noted at 1700L today were 2 Let 410's: HA-LAQ (Para-dropping) HA-YFC (Parked) Both carry small "Farnair Europe" titles. Regards Graham Mildenhall From nlspot2005 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 12:49:22 2005 From: nlspot2005 at yahoo.com (Alexander Schelbergen) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:49:21 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: EHAM 2-4-2005. Message-ID: <20050402174922.86541.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Schiphol 2-4-2005. OK-SWU 737-500 Smartwings TF-JXA Md80 A/w SP-LDG Emb170 Lot OE-LBR A320 Lauda Air 73-1681 C9 Usaf G-CELJ 737-300 Jet 2 N535MC 747-200F Focus Air JY-AUA 747-200 Air Universal OK-YGA 737-400 Csa SE-DNX 737-600 Sas / Braathens OE-LDD A319 Austrian Airlines 9H-AEJ A319 Air Malta SU-BOZ Md80 Amc G-DBCC A319 Bmi G-DBCE A319 Bmi JA811J 747-200F Jal Cargo JA8909 747-400 Jal (Soccer colours) VP-BWA A319 Aeroflot CS-TPA F100 Portugalia G-EZEG A319 Easyjet G-EZEK A319 Easyjet G-THOC 737-500 Thomson Fly TS-IND A320 Nouvelair Tunesie P4-SNT Hs125 Mvg. Alexander Schelbergen. ****************************** See for my pictures. http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=71125 (EI-CSC 737-800 Ryan Air, Speciale Kleuren, special colours) http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=70762 (TC-ABK A300 Kuzu) http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=70521 (G-BIKM 757 Dhl) http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=66298 (B2642 737-800 Air China) http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=66119 (B2267 Md90 China Southern) http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=65517 (YL-KSB An74 Ksavia) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 2 11:55:10 2005 From: Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk (Steve Barnes) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:54:20 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV : Newcastle (NCL/EGNT) 02-04-05 16:20 to 17:00 Message-ID: <001a01c537a4$dbe7e860$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> LX-ALX Be200 - arr 16.20 EI-CTB B.738 N68FE C.208 - arr 17.00 Regards, Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 From dave.wise at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 12:58:44 2005 From: dave.wise at btinternet.com (DAVID WISE) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:58:38 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Possible Mis-poles References: <20050402115653.VNQZ1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Message-ID: <03bd01c537ad$a5bca240$321b8351@oemcomputer> Duane This is a prime example of why you should always try to log at least a brief approximate type at the time. G-GOND was G-GOMD Pitts which lives at Shoreham. G-ISAK checking back through old logs on the Airfields group showed this was I-ISAK SF260 c/n 839 (rereg N260AP at Old Sarum in 5/04) Cant help with the other two. The Air Britian big book lists G-BOZD as a n.t.u. reservation for a B737! Dave W ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Charles" To: "Airfields" ; "Civil Spotters" Sent: 02 April 2005 12:56 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Possible Mis-poles > I'm just going though my old log for last year, but I can't find any info on > any of these. Therefore I'd be grateful if anyone could correct my mistakes > please? > > > > G-GOND Shoreham 10th April 2004 > > G-ISAK Old Sarum 15th April 2004 > > G-MAFU Thruxton 15th April 2004 > > G-BOZD Popham 15th April 2004 > > > > I have checked the G-info site and it can't find any relevant info on these > aircraft > > > > MTIA > > Duane Charles > From ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com Sat Apr 2 12:57:46 2005 From: ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com (Ian Brooks) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:59:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa Message-ID: -----Original Message----- Well it looks better than the current scheme can we have it back please Ian From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Marcel van den Berg Sent: 02 April 2005 17:07 To: Cae; airline-list@yahoogroups.com Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa Hi, To pay attention to Lufthansa's 50th birthday the airline painted Airbus A321 D-AIRX in a retro-livery. See http://www.airliners.net/open.file/808390/M/ for a picture. The aircraft will visit London Heathrow Sunday (April 3rd) on the LH4728/4729 schedule from Frankfurt. Arrival 1310 local time, departure 14.10 Source: www.airliners.net Best wishes, Marcel http://www.spottersunited.com _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From peter.ellington at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 12:36:13 2005 From: peter.ellington at btinternet.com (peter.ellington) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:04:30 2005 Subject: [CAE] Due humberside egnj sun 3rd Message-ID: <000601c537aa$792f2cf0$f16f9851@midnight> Flight planned into humberside sun 3rd april TAG 359 a GULF 5 e.t.a 20.20 hrs from over the pond,will try and update sun pm hope this helps. From mjaward at juno.com Sat Apr 2 13:04:06 2005 From: mjaward at juno.com (Michael J Ward) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:05:29 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Santa Monica/SMO April 2 Message-ID: <20050402.100413.-448675.5.mjaward@juno.com> Hola all, Trotted down to SMO/Santa Monica/place due south of me this morning under bright Dodger Blue skies and warmth. Picked off: N90AR Challenger N144YD Citation N246GS Citation N256DD Cessna 441 N469DN Citation N505CS Citation N510FX Challenger 300 (another one!) N592DR Citation N70.. Citation blocked N800EC 125 N7895Q Citation XA-PYN(!) I am 99% sure on this; can't find on LAAS site or my book. Smallish Citation-type. Missed Departing aircraft 08:16 08:20 08:48 (looked like it was ....77S) 08:49 Adios, Mike Ward The Ignorant Yank Spotter in So Cal ... Plane of the day": N762MX. Vaya con Dios. From jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 13:05:53 2005 From: jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hall) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:05:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG BLACKPOOL 02/04/05 References: <001001c537a7$a51af2c0$1508a8c0@user> Message-ID: <00f601c537ae$9c86bc00$e6e02b52@STEVEHALL> G-RACI Be90 is correct and is resident with Pool Aviation. G-VBAC is operating for FlyKeen / Keenair The Vulcan wont be decaying much longer as it will be broken up soon. The stored 748 on the far side is ZS-ODJ although it is allocated G-BPNJ but doesn't wear it. Hope this clears things up. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul.jenky" To: "northwest" Cc: "CAE" ; Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: [CAE] LOG BLACKPOOL 02/04/05 BLACKPOOL Sat 2nd April ///////////////////////////////////////// 11:35-13:45 ////////////////// D-ICBB CES3?? EI-CNZ 732 FR G-BEJD HS748 G-BGMN HS748 G-OMAP COMMANDER 685 G-OOSI CES404 G-RACI? BE90 G-SSWA SH330 JEM G-SSWO SH360 JEM G-VBAC SH360 (All White. ops for?) N345SF BEECH A36 N92562 PA46 XL391 VULCAN (Still in decaying state) Plus a stored HS748 on far side of field. Cheers Jenky Atherton Aviation Group --------------------------------------- 03/04/05 -Batley Bulldogs v Leigh Centurions (Challenge Cup) 15:00hrs K.O 28/03/05 Leigh 24 London 22 . _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From md69 at md69.co.uk Sat Apr 2 13:10:05 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:10:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Possible Mis-poles In-Reply-To: <20050402115653.VNQZ1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> References: <20050402115653.VNQZ1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Message-ID: <424EDFFD.4080609@md69.co.uk> Duane Charles wrote: >I'm just going though my old log for last year, but I can't find any info on >any of these. Therefore I'd be grateful if anyone could correct my mistakes >please? > > > >G-ISAK Old Sarum 15th April 2004 > Duane This one is I-ISAK, a SIAI-Marchetti SF-260 D c/n 839 which is now registered N260AP. It's based at Old Sarum. MD From andrew.seabrook at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 13:12:13 2005 From: andrew.seabrook at ntlworld.com (Andrew Seabrook) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:12:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] Due humberside egnj sun 3rd References: <000601c537aa$792f2cf0$f16f9851@midnight> Message-ID: <000c01c537af$7f8e16b0$7135fd3e@andrew5gqy01j> Hi Peter/All This should be (N516GH) GLF5 Subject to change etc Cheers Andrew Seabrook ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter.ellington" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: [CAE] Due humberside egnj sun 3rd Flight planned into humberside sun 3rd april TAG 359 a GULF 5 e.t.a 20.20 hrs from over the pond,will try and update sun pm hope this helps. _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 13:14:48 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:14:51 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO & LOGS: Riga 30/31-03-2004 Message-ID: <403C9B2B7A22C1D4C9AEB878CB638DB3@chrisball.easy.com> Hi all During my recent trip, I visited the Latvian capital of Riga with fellow list member Clive Stafford on an Easyjet cheapie. The fare was just ?24 return from Berlin. Although the movements are by no means busy, the quality makes up for the quiet spells. We spent most of the day in the Lido restaurent which overlooks the recently built commuter terminal. All movements can be read from here although photography is through thick glass. The food is dirt cheap and of excellent quality. We had a three course meal and two beers for less than a fiver!(Drink Carlsberg though. We tried the local brew and it was like rats piss). We spent four hours here and were not bothered. Between the terminal and the control tower, an extention to the terminal is being errected. This has now eliminated the recently reported photograpy oppertunities. Five minutes walk from the erminal is the Latvijas Aviacijas Tehnikes Museum. It is currently closed, but a couple of locals are working in there preparing it for opening. They are very quick on the uptake and are now used to Westerners wanting to look at their aircraft. They came to us before we even asked and said we could both come in for the princely sum of 5 lats (approx ?2 each). This we did and logged 35 wrecks and relics and got a decent view of the cargo area. If anybody requires details of the museum rsidents, just email me direct and I will send them on. When departing, walk to the end of Pier B airside for unrestricted views of the runway. Photographs are again possible, but once again through thick glass. All in all a good day, good movementa and cracking food! Wednesday 30/03/2004 0930-1715 CCCP-65874 Tupolev Tu-134A 29315 D-ACPD Canadair Regional-Jet700 10015 Lufthansa Regional EI-DCI Boeing 7378AS 33567 Ryanair EX-039 Ilyushin IL-76 Reem Air G-EUUH Airbus A320232 1665 British Airways G-EZNC Airbus A319111 2050 EasyJet LY-AVZ LET L-410UVP-E 892336 Apatas OE-LCR Canadair Regional-Jet200LR 7910 Austrian Arrows OH-KRA Aerospatiale ATR 72201 126 Finnair OH-KRB Aerospatiale ATR 72201 140 Aero Airlines OK-CGK Boeing 73755S 28471 CSA Czech Airlines OY-PEB Beech 200 BB-309 Corporate PH-WXC Fokker F-70 11574 KLM cityhopper RA-76840 Ilyushin IL-76MD 1033417553 MCHS Rossii Guap RA-76841 Ilyushin IL-76TD 1033418601 MCHS Rossii Guap SE-DYV Hawker-Siddeley 125800XP 258385 Corporate SP-KPY LET L-410UVP-E 902439 Air Polonia UR-65718 Tupolev Tu-134A-3 63668 Ukraine Government YL-BAU Fokker F-50 20126 Air Baltic YL-BAW Fokker F-50 20148 Air Baltic YL-BBA Boeing 737505 24646 Air Baltic YL-BBB Boeing 737505 24273 Air Baltic YL-BBC Airbus A320211 0142 Lat Charter YL-BBD Boeing 73753S 29075 Air Baltic YL-BBE Boeing 73753S 29073 Air Baltic YL-BBF Boeing 737548 24878 Air Baltic YL-BBH Boeing 737548 24968 Air Baltic YL-CAJ American Aviation AG-5B 10109 Private YL-CCX Piper PA-31-310 31-647 Corporate YL-KSA Antonov An-74200 36547098957 KS Avia YL-LAB Tupolev Tu-154B2 81A515 Latpass Airlines YL-LAJ Ilyushin IL-76TD 1013409295 Inversija YL-LCK Antonov An-24B 79901110 Rigas Aeronaviocijas YL-LHC Mil Mi-2 527541032 Private YL-LHH Mil Mi-2 549329075 Private YL-RAC Antonov An-26B 99-03 RAF Avia YL-RAF Antonov An-74TK100 36547095905 RAF Avia YL-VIP Hawker-Siddeley 125800B 258078 VIP Avia Thursday 31/03/2005 0800-1015 G-EZEZ Airbus A319111 2360 EasyJet OH-KRE Aerospatiale ATR 72201 174 Finnair RA-76750 Ilyushin IL-76TD 0083485561 Aerostars S5-BBB Cessna 525A 525A-0019 Corporate SE-DYV Hawker-Siddeley 125800XP 258385 Corporate SP-KPY LET L-410UVP-E 902439 Air Polonia VP-BUA Boeing 76733PER 28370 Uzbekistan Airways YL-BAS Fokker F-50 20162 Air Baltic YL-BAW Fokker F-50 20148 Air Baltic YL-BAZ Fokker F-50 20153 Air Baltic YL-BBC Airbus A320211 0142 Lat Charter YL-BBE Boeing 73753S 29073 Air Baltic YL-CCX Piper PA-31-310 31-647 Corporate YL-KSA Antonov An-74200 36547098957 KS Avia YL-LAB Tupolev Tu-154B2 81A515 Latpass Airlines YL-LAJ Ilyushin IL-76TD 1013409295 Inversija YL-LBT Yakovlev Yak-42D 4520424404018 Lat Charter YL-LCK Antonov An-24B 79901110 Rigas Aeronaviocijas YL-RAF Antonov An-74TK100 36547095905 RAF Avia YL-VIP Hawker-Siddeley 125800B 258078 VIP Avia Regards Chris Regards Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. 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From chrisball at easy.com Sat Apr 2 13:19:28 2005 From: chrisball at easy.com (Chris Ball) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:19:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Berlin Schonefeld 30-31/03/005 (Short) Message-ID: <1CE965B0835E1764C9580F0C2C0075B6@chrisball.easy.com> Berlin Schonefeld 30/03/2005 @0700 G-EZBS Airbus A319111 2387 EasyJet G-EZEP Airbus A319111 2251 EasyJet G-EZEZ Airbus A319111 2360 EasyJet G-EZNC Airbus A319111 2050 EasyJet HB-AFG Aerospatiale ATR 72201 108 Farnair Switzerland SP-FDO Antonov An-26B 105-03 Exin SP-FDP Antonov An-26B 119-03 Exin Berlin Schonefeld 31/03/2005 1040-1100 and 1710-1800 4X-EAB Boeing 767258 22973 El Al-Israel Airlines 5B-DBU Boeing 7378Q8 32796 Eurocypria 5B-DBW Boeing 7378Q8 30671 Eurocypria D-AILF Airbus A319114 0636 Lufthansa EI-CDG Boeing 737548 25738 Aer Lingus EI-CSV Boeing 7378AS 29934 Ryanair EW-46483 Antonov An-24RV 27308101 Gomelavia G-EZEC Airbus A319111 2129 EasyJet G-EZEO Airbus A319111 2249 EasyJet G-EZEP Airbus A319111 2251 EasyJet G-EZEU Airbus A319111 2283 EasyJet G-EZPG Airbus A319 111 2385 EasyJet PH-XRY Boeing 7377K2 33463 Transavia SP-FDP Antonov An-26B 119-03 Exin VP-BDO Airbus A319111 2091 Aeroflot Russian Airlines Chris From CHRIS BALL This message was sent from the free private e-mail service by easy.com, the portal site owned by Stelios and the easyGroup. 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From jilton2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 13:29:32 2005 From: jilton2000 at yahoo.com (Anthony Lowe) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:29:30 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Luton 15.00 02/04/05 Message-ID: <20050402182932.95209.qmail@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Noted at Luton at 15.00ish today, 2 April were: BBJ N254SJ Eurocopter: CPSH G4 N818BA, CS-DKA G5 CS-DKB B400 CS-DMA Citation CS-DHE CS-DHK CS-DHM Chall LX-GDC N598MT G2 VP-BFF Da 900EX N588GS Best wishes, Tony Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From colsy at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 13:37:11 2005 From: colsy at tesco.net (colsy@tesco.net) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:37:12 2005 Subject: [CAE] China 01/04/05 Message-ID: <20050402183713.WLQC1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@smtp.tesco.net> Hi, This is Rainbow Jet of China who have at least 8 of them!! Colin From colsy at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 13:37:20 2005 From: colsy at tesco.net (colsy@tesco.net) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:37:22 2005 Subject: [CAE] China 01/04/05 Message-ID: <20050402183722.JOGK1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@smtp.tesco.net> Hi, This is Rainbow Jet of China who have at least 8 of them!! Colin From colsy at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 13:37:24 2005 From: colsy at tesco.net (colsy@tesco.net) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:37:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] China 01/04/05 Message-ID: <20050402183726.WMAB1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@smtp.tesco.net> Hi, This is Rainbow Jet of China who have at least 8 of them!! Colin From jilton2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 13:37:43 2005 From: jilton2000 at yahoo.com (Anthony Lowe) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:37:43 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Rush Green 02/04/05 Message-ID: <20050402183743.18551.qmail@web30313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, A beautiful day, hangar wide open, so all logged today 2 April. G-ANCS, G-APLU, G-AZGZ, all DH-52A Tiger Moths G-AWVN Champion G-JANS CessnaFR172 G-CIBO Cessna 180 G-AHAM Auster J/1 G-AVOC DR.221 Being worked on in a workshop was a RV6 (beleived to be G-RVGA, though the owner said that it is currently deregistered). Doing circuits was another DH-52A carrying serial T7230, beleived to be G-AFVE Hopefully of interest to someone. Best wishes, Tony Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Lonewolf1507 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Apr 2 13:37:39 2005 From: Lonewolf1507 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Andy Richards) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:39:56 2005 Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa Message-ID: <051301c537b3$0c37e2f0$0200a8c0@andysnightmare> I quite agree and I hope that the powers that be at Lufthansa agree too, I think that would look good on the whole fleet. Do any of our viewers in Germany know if there is any plans for any other aircraft joining this for the celebrations or is it a one off? Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Brooks" To: "'Marcel van den Berg'" ; "'Cae'" ; Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: RE: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa > > > -----Original Message----- > Well it looks better than the current scheme can we have it back please > > Ian > From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] > On Behalf Of Marcel van den Berg > Sent: 02 April 2005 17:07 > To: Cae; airline-list@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa > > Hi, > To pay attention to Lufthansa's 50th birthday the airline painted Airbus > A321 D-AIRX in a retro-livery. > See http://www.airliners.net/open.file/808390/M/ for a picture. > > The aircraft will visit London Heathrow Sunday (April 3rd) on the > LH4728/4729 schedule from Frankfurt. > Arrival 1310 local time, departure 14.10 > > Source: www.airliners.net > > Best wishes, > Marcel > http://www.spottersunited.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 > From keithsowter at mulbarton71.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 2 13:55:20 2005 From: keithsowter at mulbarton71.freeserve.co.uk (Keith Sowter) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:55:15 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Eccles Hall, Quidenham, Norfolk 02Apr05 + LET 410 References: <018a01c536fe$35c408c0$0100a8c0@yourg2asvv4l2m> Message-ID: <00d301c537b5$84b52740$f5864354@dellpc> Balloons Lifting this evening in glorious sunlight were GBULB GBZIK GBZHX GFUSE GBYOK GWIZD GINSR GBZRX GBYSV + GSUED inflated but not flown The Let 410 that overflew the sight last night was confirmed by the helpful staff at Old Buckenham as HA-YFC Hope this helps Keith From a.hilliard at btopenworld.com Sat Apr 2 13:57:39 2005 From: a.hilliard at btopenworld.com (Rotorblades) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:57:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers References: <000001c53792$99dd0980$0e01a8c0@andrew> Message-ID: <001001c537b5$d8bd9ac0$9d797ad5@main1> Why is everybody getting so hyped up over it. It is preference. As an ATCO I work with 4 letter codes for aiports i.e. EGLL Heathrow, VSSS Singapore, PANC Anchorage. I very rarely use 3 letters but still can work out or know most of the major ones around the world. i.e JFK is obviously New York kennedy Apt. CDG is Paris de gaulle, FRA Frankfurt. If I dont know a coding be it either 3 or 4 letter I go and look it up on the net or in paper resources., learn something new everyday, thats my motto. If you are going somewhere and want a tie-up then look at the baggae label attached to your luggae, then youll see ORD ties up with Chicago Ohare or MDW for midway. The other side of the argument I can see if its a small airport in the middle of no-where like RPMA surallah-allah valley in the philippines then it is understandable. But all major aiports can be worked out with little effort. Anyone who cant decode these should have a rethink about what HOBBY they in :-) LHR LGW MAN FRA DFW JFK SYD LAX FRA Only a bit of fun!!! Lighten up everyone just enjoy it for what it is a hobby!!!!, If someone chooses to only use codes then let 'em its a free country........ Alex :-)))))) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: "'Geoff Cook'" ; "'aviationlist'" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [CAE] Codes in headers I disagree I wouldn’t know where ORD is or at least not until all this had gone on, I don’t know what JNB stands for either, ok I might be able to assume what the other 3 are, sometimes assuming can work out to be a bad thing. Also if I were to go anywhere I wouldn’t go looking up what 3 or even 4 letter code for the airport is either. Why should a 50 year old need to know the code ORD, am I in for something good when I get to 50 a free holiday there perhaps. Will my memory change and suddenly I will know all the 3 letter codes in the world. Personally then I would not have a problem. So myself I think I would rather stick to the rules and state the airport/airfield name. No mistake made then. Thanks Andrew -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Cook Sent: 02 April 2005 15:27 To: aviationlist Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers I support Mike Vass here.. If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a problem! In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know which cities they serve.. Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike may have done!! I didnt think an apology was needed.. Okay I feel better now! Geoff Looking for New York Airport info? 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From gordon_stretch at hotmail.com Sat Apr 2 13:58:19 2005 From: gordon_stretch at hotmail.com (Gordon Stretch) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:01:12 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS BHX Birmingham + EMA East Midlands Saturday 2 April 2005 Message-ID: Highlights - BHX Birmingham 0930 - 1400 EI-DFG E70 Alitalia Express EI-DDE 142 Air France/City Jet D-AVRH AR8 Lufthansa PH-BDG 733 KLM - new c/s EI-CSL 142 Air France/City Jet G-BVKD 735 bmibaby - Visit Wales c/s D-AHIC 73G Hamburg G-XLAG 738 Excel G-OOAH 321 First Choice G-STRH 73G Astraeus - op for BE G-OOAV 321 First Choice G-STRE 733 flybe OK-XGC 735 CSA PH-JCT F70 KLM cityhopper EMA East Midlands 1500 1700 G-ZAPM 733 Titan TC-JMC 321 Turkish - full c/s + titles G-MIDF 321 Turkish - full c/s + titles TC-JMC is parked between the hangars next to the Air Ambulance base. G-MIDF was being worked on while parked on one of the pans and was then towed straight back into the main bmi hangar. Gordon Stretch From a.hilliard at btopenworld.com Sat Apr 2 14:05:46 2005 From: a.hilliard at btopenworld.com (Rotorblades) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:05:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers-ooops References: <000001c53792$99dd0980$0e01a8c0@andrew> <001001c537b5$d8bd9ac0$9d797ad5@main1> <001001c537b6$4f4eb160$4a2dfd3e@andrew5gqy01j> Message-ID: <005f01c537b6$faa21930$9d797ad5@main1> well done to everyone who spotted the deliberate typo:))) hic:-))) Singapore is of course WSSS not VSSS, Obviously there are some who know codes!!! Cheers all Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Seabrook" To: "Rotorblades" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > Hi Alex (Rotorblades) > > Is Singapore WSSS, Not VSSS > > Keep up the good work > Cheers > Andrew > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rotorblades" > To: "C_spottersnew" > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > > >> Why is everybody getting so hyped up over it. It is preference. >> As an ATCO I work with 4 letter codes for aiports i.e. EGLL Heathrow, >> VSSS >> Singapore, PANC Anchorage. I very rarely use 3 letters but still can work >> out or know most of the major ones around the world. i.e JFK is obviously >> New York kennedy Apt. CDG is Paris de gaulle, FRA Frankfurt. >> If I dont know a coding be it either 3 or 4 letter I go and look it up on >> the net or in paper resources., learn something new everyday, thats my >> motto. >> If you are going somewhere and want a tie-up then look at the baggae >> label >> attached to your luggae, then youll see ORD ties up with Chicago Ohare or >> MDW for midway. >> The other side of the argument I can see if its a small airport in the >> middle of no-where like RPMA surallah-allah valley in the philippines >> then >> it is understandable. >> But all major aiports can be worked out with little effort. >> Anyone who cant decode these should have a rethink about what HOBBY they > in >> :-) >> LHR >> LGW >> MAN >> FRA >> DFW >> JFK >> SYD >> LAX >> FRA >> >> >> Only a bit of fun!!! Lighten up everyone just enjoy it for what it is a >> hobby!!!!, If someone chooses to only use codes then let 'em its a free >> country........ >> Alex >> :-)))))) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew" >> To: "'Geoff Cook'" ; "'aviationlist'" >> >> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:45 PM >> Subject: RE: [CAE] Codes in headers >> >> >> I disagree >> >> I wouldn’t know where ORD is or at least not until all this had gone on, >> I don’t know what JNB stands for either, ok I might be able to assume >> what the other 3 are, sometimes assuming can work out to be a bad thing. >> >> Also if I were to go anywhere I wouldn’t go looking up what 3 or even 4 >> letter code for the airport is either. >> >> Why should a 50 year old need to know the code ORD, am I in for >> something good when I get to 50 a free holiday there perhaps. Will my >> memory change and suddenly I will know all the 3 letter codes in the >> world. Personally then I would not have a problem. >> >> So myself I think I would rather stick to the rules and state the >> airport/airfield name. No mistake made then. >> >> Thanks >> >> Andrew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >> [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Cook >> Sent: 02 April 2005 15:27 >> To: aviationlist >> Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers >> >> >> I support Mike Vass here.. >> >> If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 >> years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a >> problem! >> >> In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I >> dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I >> havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know >> which cities they serve.. >> >> Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the >> following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX >> AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. >> >> I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think >> this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW >> MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike >> may have done!! >> >> I didnt think an apology was needed.. >> >> Okay I feel better now! >> >> Geoff >> >> >> >> >> >> Looking for New York Airport info? Try this >> site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup >> >> Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header >> page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > From sbs at rgra1.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 2 14:13:52 2005 From: sbs at rgra1.freeserve.co.uk (Robert ALDRIDGE) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:16:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] Chicago O'hare - Spotting Information Message-ID: <001101c537b8$1beaa5c0$d6234054@oemcomputer> With respect to the on going debate. I have been to Chicago 3 times in the last 2 years. On the first visit I was told by the police that I could use binoculars within the terminal on the third occasion I was asked not to. The request was polite and the police officers said we cannot stop you , you are not breaking any laws, but you will a) create anxiety and b) cause us problems. I respected their views and did not use binoculars but still logged a significant number of aircraft. On my second visit I used binoculars with no problem until I was on board the aircraft. I was then asked to return to the gate to explian what I was doing with the binoculars. Once the airline rep became aware I was an aircraft enthusiast she was very apologetic and wished me a pleasant flight. Where one spots from is down to the individual. My preference is the American Eagle pier. From here most of the American Eagle and United Express aircraft can be seen together with, wind directions permitting , the majority of International flights. In conclusion America and Chicago are great places to visit. In most places the police are aware of the existence of aircraft spotters the public are not. In Britain we have become used to terrorism. Terrorism is new to most Americans and as a result they get understandably anxious. To end on a lighter note as most of you will know MCO equals Orlando International. It derives its name officially from its military designation of McCoy Airbase. or alternatively , as one American told me , Mickey Controls Orlando. Thanks Rob Aldridge From Mike.Savereux at reteq.com Sat Apr 2 14:20:43 2005 From: Mike.Savereux at reteq.com (Mike Savereux) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:20:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG - Shoreham - 2/4/05 Message-ID: <28A77250BD1D4F4AB2F7410F50832B8E14B24F@homer.reteq.com> Amongst the visitors to Shoreham today were;- F-BVMH DR400/160 F-CAQP Grob 109B F-GINM DR400/180 N2923N PA32-300 N5315V Hiller UH-12C N7640F PA32R-300 OO-CLP Ce.182P G-ARNE PA22 G-ATCC Airedale G-BEDP Trislander (Rockhopper) G-BEMB Ce.F172M G-BERW AC114 G-BFRS Ce.F172N G-BHFJ PA28RT G-BKDH DR400/120 G-BLFI PA28 G-BLFW AA-5 G-BYJL Pulsar G-BZMB PA28R G-OKED Ce.150L G-TOTO Ce.F177RG G-WWAL PA28R All in all, not a bad bunch after a week of miserable misty/foggy weather! Mike From DelBarrow at aol.com Sat Apr 2 14:26:31 2005 From: DelBarrow at aol.com (DelBarrow@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:26:34 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Luton 25/3/05 @ 0655-0710 Message-ID: <60.529ad720.2f804be7@aol.com> Hi noted during a quick stop on the way to Gatwick to catch a flight Sig Ramp TC-PLM F2000 G-CDCX C750 Pond G-EVLN G4 NW Corner 4X-COE CL604 VP-BKZ G5 N702GH G4SP VP-BLD L1329 N283S GLEX H125 N485LT 800XP OE-IWP Legacy N738TS GLEX N12NZ G4SP G-NETA C560XL HZ-OFC4 F900 N353GA G100 St62 EI-WGV G5 South Stands P4-GES B762 TF-FIR B752 TF-FIU B752 CS-DHH C550B CS-DFH F900 N480QS G4SP Cargo EC-HJU Cv580 G-SSWM SD360 Others HA-LPE A320 HA-LPC A320 EI-CSY B738 EI-DCR B738 G-OZBB A320 G-OZBG A321 Plus EZYs From nstevo at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 14:29:09 2005 From: nstevo at ntlworld.com (Neil Stephenson) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:29:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers Message-ID: <001501c537ba$3f5c8580$a58e6ad5@Neil> Neil Stephenson St. Helens Rugby League "It's just like watching Brazil" From nstevo at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 14:30:08 2005 From: nstevo at ntlworld.com (Neil Stephenson) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:30:08 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers Message-ID: <001b01c537ba$62769330$a58e6ad5@Neil> Hi I'm afraid I have to go with Geoff. For all those who don't know where ORD is just remember if you ask for a flight home to say Manchester, you might not end up where you think. If you are thinking of going to Manchester here are directions from the North. Take Interstate 93 South to Interstate 293 South/Route 101 East to Exit 2 (Brown Ave.). At the bottom of the ramp take a right and follow Brown Ave. for approximately 1.4 miles. Follow airport signs. I'm told it's quite nice in summer Neil Stephenson St. Helens Rugby League "It's just like watching Brazil" From stevesaint32 at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 2 14:28:15 2005 From: stevesaint32 at tiscali.co.uk (STEVE SAINT) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:37:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers References: <001b01c537ba$62769330$a58e6ad5@Neil> Message-ID: <007701c537ba$1f2e4d20$e9ea403e@q6f9o9> At the risk of getting kicked off for my language : I am totally PISSED off with this thread/bickering ! For gods sake it's only a hobby - enoughs enough !!!!!!!! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Stephenson" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers > Hi > > I'm afraid I have to go with Geoff. > > For all those who don't know where ORD is just remember if you ask for a > flight home to say Manchester, you might not end up where you think. If you > are thinking of going to Manchester here are directions from the North. > > Take Interstate 93 South to Interstate 293 South/Route 101 East to Exit 2 > (Brown Ave.). At the bottom of the ramp take a right and follow Brown Ave. > for approximately 1.4 miles. Follow airport signs. > > I'm told it's quite nice in summer > > Neil Stephenson > St. Helens Rugby League > "It's just like watching Brazil" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/05 > > From TREVSEXTON at aol.com Sat Apr 2 14:44:07 2005 From: TREVSEXTON at aol.com (TREVSEXTON@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:44:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] CAE [REQ] Kidlington 1/4/05 circa 11.30 Message-ID: <1C6C36EB.1B4C6130.0C1BBC06@aol.com> This is surpose to be going G- (G-VANA i,ve been told) From nairnradar at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 13:58:03 2005 From: nairnradar at tesco.net (Stephen Lane) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:50:40 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Inverness:FRI:01.04.2004 Message-ID: <011801c537bc$78c34690$9865fea9@Stephen> Sorry for the delay - left my log at work!!! F-GLLH Be 200 1133/1245 f/t Lorient G-BLDV Islander 1159/1231 Campbeltown/Stornoway "LOG AMB1" G-BLDV Islander 1506/1610 Stornoway/Glasgow "LOG AMB1" BMA 692/3 G-MIDR EZY 191/2 G-EZYP EZY 761/2 G-EZEY Wasn`t worth waiting for!! Stephen All outgoing messages scanned by Norton From nairnradar at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 14:44:13 2005 From: nairnradar at tesco.net (Stephen Lane) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:50:54 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Inverness:SAT:02.04.2005 Message-ID: <011b01c537bc$7ac8b380$9865fea9@Stephen> CS-DHE Ce 550B 1020/1202 Dublin/Luton "NJE 647P/264F" G-WMTM AA-5B 1100/1142 f/t Aberdeen G-BDFY AA-5 1159/1249 Edinburgh/Kirkwall G-POWL Ce 182 31st /1411 to Prestwick G-WMTM AA-5B 1425/1543 f/t Aberdeen G-BLHJ Ce F172P 1609/1705 f/t Aberdeen BMA 692/3 G-MIDW (not the promised E145!) EZY 191/2 G-EZYP EZY 761/2 G-EJAR Unusually weekend-stopping, no fewer than 4 Eastern Jetstreams:G-BYRA,G-BUVC,G-BYRM,G-BUVD. Stephen All outgoing messages scanned by Norton From pauldeath at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 14:51:46 2005 From: pauldeath at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul De'ath) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:51:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: STANSTED (STN) 02/04/05 08:00 - 13:00 Message-ID: <000c01c537bd$6705d7f0$ae2e2252@E2220> Please find below a list of noted aircraft during a plesently improving day, I have added Arrival (ARR) & Departure (DEP) approx times. Hope this is useful to anyone. Stansted 02/04/2005 A6-EJB GLOBAL EXPRESS DEP 12:24 B-KAB BOEING 747F DRAGONAIR ARR 12:20 D-ABAB BOEING 737NG AIR BERLIN ARR 10:00 DEP 10:50 D-ABBN BOEING 737NG AIR BERLIN DEP 8:12 ARR 11:28 DEP 12:38 D-AGPK FOKKER 100 AIR BERLIN ARR 10:20 DEP 11:29 D-AILX AIRBUS 319 GERMANWINGS DEP 8:28 D-AKNJ AIRBUS 319 GERMANWINGS DEP 8:17 EI-COB BOEING 737/2 RYANAIR DEP 8:25 EI-CSA BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 12:21 EI-CSB BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:36 DEP 12:47 EI-CSD BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:45 DEP 12:35 EI-CSF BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:49 DEP 11:57 EI-CSG BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:42 DEP 11:33 EI-CSH BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:23 DEP 10:09 EI-CSJ BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:28 DEP 10:14 EI-CSM BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 12:39 EI-CSO BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:15 DEP 11:20 EI-CSQ BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 8:31 DEP 12:33 EI-CST BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:22 DEP 11:33 EI-CSV BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 9:29 EI-CSZ BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:06 DEP 9:53 EI-CTA BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:54 DEP 11:43 EI-DAG BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 8:15 EI-DAI BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:49 DEP 12:45 EI-DAK BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 12:37 EI-DAL BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:22 DEP 12:06 EI-DAM BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:58 DEP 11:50 EI-DAT BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 9:20 EI-DAV BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 12:25 EI-DAW BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:38 DEP 11:39 EI-DAX BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:16 DEP 10:11 EI-DAZ BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:59 DEP 12:49 EI-DCC BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 8:56 EI-DCD BOEING 737NG RYANAIR EI-DCF BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:48 DEP 12:40 EI-DCG BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:51 DEP 10:33 EI-DCI BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 8:41 EI-DCJ BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 8:52 DEP 9:35 ARR 12:15 EI-DCK BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:33 DEP 10:26 EI-DCN BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 8:04 DEP 8:57 EI-DCO BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:15 DEP 11:32 EI-DCP BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:19 DEP 9:59 ARR 12:25 EI-DCS BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:08 DEP 10:59 EI-DCX BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:42 DEP 12:27 EI-DCY BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:25 DEP 12:18 EI-DHA BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 10:10 DEP 11:01 EI-DHD BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 9:40 DEP 10:29 EI-DHE BOEING 737NG RYANAIR DEP 7:57 ARR 11:02 DEP 12:10 EI-DHF BOEING 737NG RYANAIR ARR 11:19 DEP 12:09 EI-DHG BOEING 737NG RYANAIR G-BYAO BOEING 757 THOMSON.CO.UK DEP 8:54 G-CEAF BOEING 737/2 PALMAIR EUROPEAN DEP 11:18 G-CELP BOEING 737/3F CHANNEL EXPRESS G-EZDC AIRBUS 319 EASYJET ARR 10:32 G-EZET AIRBUS 319 EASYJET ARR 12:13 G-EZJB BOEING 737NG EASYJET ARR 11:15 DEP 12:03 G-EZJL BOEING 737NG EASYJET DEP 8:48 G-EZKC BOEING 737NG EASYJET DEP 8:30 ARR 10:45 DEP 11:29 G-EZMS AIRBUS 319 EASYJET DEP 8:02 G-EZYI BOEING 737/3 EASYJET G-EZYN BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 10:36 DEP 11:24 G-EZYO BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 11:31 DEP 12:21 G-EZYT BOEING 737/3 EASYJET G-FJET CITATION 550 DEP 12:12 G-IGOB BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 12:52 G-IGOI BOEING 737/3 EASYJET DEP 8:27 ARR 10:57 DEP 12:08 G-IGOV BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 11:08 DEP 11:44 G-IGOY BOEING 737/3 EASYJET DEP 8:32 ARR 12:34 G-JETC CITATION 550 G-MOMO AGUSTA A109E DEP 10:32 G-OFRA BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 9:32 DEP 10:17 G-OMUC BOEING 737/3 EASYJET ARR 11:17 DEP 12:01 G-WINA CITATION EXCEL DEP 10:19 G-ZAPM BOEING 737/3 TITAN DEP 9:08 G-ZAPT KINGAIR 200 TITAN ARR 11:24 G-ZAPW BOEING 737/3 TITAN DEP 10:04 HA-LKP BOEING 737/5 SKYEUROPE ARR 8:18 DEP 9:26 HA-LOJ BOEING 737NG MALEV DEP 8:53 HB-AFD ATR-42 FARNAIR ARR 11:53 DEP 12:29 HL7422 BOEING 747F ASIANA DEP 8:21 N81SN FALCON 900 DEP 13:00 OE-IWP EMB-135 LEGACY OE-LOR AIRBUS 320 NIKI DEP 8:00 OK-CGH BOEING 737/5 CSA CZECH A/L ARR 8:16 DEP 9:10 OM-SEB BOEING 737/5 SKYEUROPE ARR 8:15 DEP 9:18 OM-SED BOEING 737/5 SKYEUROPE ARR 8:00 DEP 8:58 PH-XRA BOEING 737NG TRANSAVIA A/L ARR 12:31 SE-RFB MD-82 NORDIC AIRLINK ARR 11:56 SU-EWC CITATION EXCEL TF-JXB MD-82 JETX DEP 8:13 ARR 12:22 ZS-AOL GULFSTREAM 5 Regards, Paul From DelBarrow at aol.com Sat Apr 2 14:54:17 2005 From: DelBarrow at aol.com (DelBarrow@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:54:28 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: TAM flights to Europe Message-ID: <191.3c5dbd19.2f805269@aol.com> Hi noted overhead Tenerife on Friday 1st April were 2 TAM A330s heading towards Europe. 1 @ 10:20 & 1 @ 11:30. 1 I guess was TAM8096 inbound to Paris CdG PT-MVG any ideas on the other one or its possible destination? the TAM web site only has Paris CdG as a route to Europe so I guess they could have both been going there!! also noted on 26/3 @ 11:50 & 1/4 @ 12:40 heading towards the states possibly ex Morocco was what looked like an A340 that looked vagely similar in colours to China Eastern any ideas as to Opr? I thought at first the 26/3 was RAM B744 CN-RGA but couldn't see a lump on either. MTIA Del From DelBarrow at aol.com Sat Apr 2 14:56:34 2005 From: DelBarrow at aol.com (DelBarrow@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:56:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Tenerife South 25/3/05 & 01/4/05 Message-ID: <65.4272922e.2f8052f2@aol.com> Hi noted on my arrival from Gatwick courtesy of Thomson B762 GBYAA @18:15 - 18:25 amongst all the BAL flights were EC-IXY A321 LTE EC-ICN A320 LTE EC-INZ A320 IWD EC-IOU B734 FUA B737 FUA B737 FUA EC-IDA B738 AEA EC-IDT B738 AEA EC-HXA A320 JKK EC-ISI A320 IWD EC-GZD A320 IWD EC-ISY B752 HOA G-SMTJ A321 MYT PH-HZE B738 TRA B738 HLF A330 MYT HB-VNC C560XL G-CBRG C560XL EC-HYI F2000 noted between the above times prior to 1930 were EC-ILX B738 TVS Spain B762 TSO D-BSNA CL600S also on the board as due but running late weas a Kras Air flight. Noted during my transit back the other way courtesy of Thomson B752 GBYAY @ 18:30 - 19:55 were EC-ILX B738 TVS Spain EC-ICL A320 JKK EC-INZ A320 IWD B738 AEA EC-ILG A321 LTE D-ABOG B753 CFG D-AICF A320 CFG D-AIDD A310 HLF EC-ICN A320 LTE EC-IMU A320 IWD EC-IZG B734 FUA TF-ELJ B734 XLA EC-IXY A321 LTE EC-IMA A321 LTE PH-HZY B738 TRA EC-IJU A321 JKK EC-IJO B1900D IBB full colours EC-JBI ATR72 IBB G-CRPH A320 MYT G-SSAS A320 MYT G-SMTJ A321 MYT G-OOBC B752 AMM G-TTOA A320 GBL G-TTI? A321 GBL G-OJEG A321 MON G-OZBG A321 MON G-BYAJ B752 BAL G-BYAK B752 BAL G-BYAO B752 BAL G-BYAR B752 BAL G-BYAS B752 BAL G-BYAY B752 BAL plus RA-96013 IL-96 DOM (Domodedovo Airlines) opr for KJC (Kras Air) & RA-73008 B752 MOV (Vim Airlinres) opr for TSO (Transaero) also present C210 YV-203P From b707jet at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 15:07:05 2005 From: b707jet at btinternet.com (Gary Staples) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:07:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] Temporary signing of the list Message-ID: <00de01c537bf$8b066320$0301a8c0@garyn15577he4y> Dear Moderator, I would like to suspend my membership of the group for approx six weeks as i am going to be moving house and off line for a while. yours faithfully Gary staples From DelBarrow at aol.com Sat Apr 2 15:14:36 2005 From: DelBarrow at aol.com (DelBarrow@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Gatwick 25/3/05 Message-ID: <197.3bee4d34.2f80572c@aol.com> Hi some noted from the car park between 0945-1030 were LZBOL B737 LZB EIDEY A319 ISS OYAPB B735 DAN 5XBON DC10 DSR A6EMK B772 UAE A7AFM A332 QTR TSING A320 AAW 7TVJT B736 DAH ECINP B734 FUA 9HAEG A319 AMC URGAK B735 AUI GEJAR A320 EZY GEZIB A320 EZY GSTRF B737 AEU TFARD B752 XLA some noted from the dep lounge between 1130-1415 OKCGT B734 CSA HSVAC B747 A6EMR B773 UAE N226NW DC10 NWA N704NW A333 NWA N368AA B763 AAL N399AN B763 AAL N798AN B772 AAL N154DL B763 DAL N172DN B763 DAL N193DN B763 DAL CSTEZ A310 TAP CNRND B734 N678US A332 USA OYAPB B735 DAN FGRJN CRJ BZH CGZMM B763 OOM GOOBC B752 AMM GOOBI B752 AAM HBJZI A320 EZS EIDFA A319 ISS EIDDK B734 TSO GJEDU DHC8 BEE GJEBC 146 BEE GJEBF 146 BEE N76010 B772 CAO N16153 B762 COA & EZY A319s GEZMS, GEZET, GEZSM, GEZMK, GEZED, GEZEK, GEZEO, GEZEV, GEZEY, GEZEG, GHMCC, GEZET. Rgds Del From kevin at parsons47.fsnet.co.uk Sat Apr 2 15:37:55 2005 From: kevin at parsons47.fsnet.co.uk (Kevin Parsons) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:37:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] FW: [EGHI] LOG 2/4 Message-ID: <004d01c537c3$dc7f5550$0601a8c0@SAMSUNGV25> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Parsons [mailto:Kevin@Parsons47.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 02 April 2005 21:37 To: EGHI@yahoogroups.com Subject: [EGHI] LOG 2/4 Noted this evening LX-HEC EC155 G-OCIT CE208 G-JECG DHC8 G-JEAW 146 G-JEAS 146 G-EMBS EMB145 Kev _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EGHI/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: EGHI-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . From davidw747 at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 14:14:32 2005 From: davidw747 at btinternet.com (David) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:43:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req; football charters this week Message-ID: <001901c537b8$34dc7360$d7157ad5@com> Hi All Does anyone know of any football charters for this Tuesday or Wednesday for the Luton or Stansted area for Chelsea's Game. Thanks in advance David w From darkwolf.38 at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 14:41:00 2005 From: darkwolf.38 at virgin.net (simon) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:43:26 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG/Wellesbourne/Coventry/2/4/2005 Message-ID: <028001c537bb$e71a9c20$1e5e0352@SimonsPC> Hi All Coventry THOB 737 THOD 737 EC HCH Metro N50BH G3 Wellesbourne New R44's CDKY * CMXX * EJTC * RTWO * N4024W C208 * SIMON From md69 at md69.co.uk Sat Apr 2 15:51:20 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:51:59 2005 Subject: [CAE] Temporary signing of the list In-Reply-To: <00de01c537bf$8b066320$0301a8c0@garyn15577he4y> References: <00de01c537bf$8b066320$0301a8c0@garyn15577he4y> Message-ID: <424F05C8.4050003@md69.co.uk> Gary At the bottom of each and every mail you'll find a link to "amend your options". Use it. MD Gary Staples wrote: >Dear Moderator, > I would like to suspend my membership of the group for approx six weeks as i am going to be moving house and off line for a while. > > yours faithfully > > > Gary staples >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at >http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > From schaltzie at tiscali.it Sat Apr 2 15:48:39 2005 From: schaltzie at tiscali.it (Paul Schaltegger) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:52:06 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log Turin 02/04/2005 Message-ID: <001301c537c5$5c77d790$b650de54@yourpfvr8cvzkb> Finished work today at 13.00 just in time to see the Tu-154 arriving Regards schaltzie ADU Software 02/04/2005 Torino (Turin) Reg/Code Type C/n Airline/Operator/Owner D-ACHA CRJ 200LR 7378 Lufthansa EC-JEF CRJ 200ER 8008 Iberia Regional G-MONJ B.757 2T7 24104 Monarch Airlines HA-LPE A.320 233 1892 Wizz Air I-EEZD A.320 214 1920 Eurofly RA-85755 Tu-154 M 92A937 UT air SE-DSS 146 RJ100 E3245 Malm? Aviation SE-DSX 146 RJ100 E3255 Malm? Aviation From md69 at md69.co.uk Sat Apr 2 16:03:19 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:03:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] ORG: 3 letter codes, spotting at O'Hare and current state of the list Message-ID: <424F0897.10507@md69.co.uk> Having sent out an ORG message last night at 20:56 saying that I only wanted to see constructive comments about spotting at O'Hare, I was hoping that that would be the end of the matter. Seemingly not, as I've counted 28 messages directly or indirectly connected with the subject. Discussions of this nature, after an initial ORG posting should be moved over on to the Forum, which was set up for such purposes. If you're not a member of the forum and want to discuss it, join up. If you don't want to join up, then don't discuss it here. The whole list is on moderate as of now, and any future posting on the subject should either go to the forum or the moderating team direct. Any attempts to post to the list will result in the post being rejected. I will discuss with PJH & PG what we will do in the future about codes, as we've had a couple of mails direct about the use of them. Reiterating last nights point - if you're not familiar with 3 and/or 4 letter codes, there is a wealth of info our there, with a number of links in the Vault. End of subject. MD From jayne4esnob at tesco.net Sat Apr 2 16:15:23 2005 From: jayne4esnob at tesco.net (jayne4esnob) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:15:47 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req Globespan 6153 Message-ID: <002001c537c9$15ac6160$fc170c52@c3r5f9> Hi all, can anyone put reg to Globespan (GSM) 6153 @ 1900 into Glasgow (I think) today 2-4-05. - Many thanks Pete From eswift at ntlworld.com Sat Apr 2 16:36:09 2005 From: eswift at ntlworld.com (Eddie Swift) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:41:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? Message-ID: <20050402213320.EFVZ5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@eddiepc> Evening all, Visited Coventry to catch up with another Antonov airframe begging, ES-NOI seen. Logged OY-NPC and EC-JCU both metros. Can someone confirm that OY-NPC is correct as I have this w/o 10/9/2004? Would be grateful, as NPA which I have seen logged here lately is needed as a frame, Thanks Eddie Swift From WADETDW at bhill07.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 2 16:33:55 2005 From: WADETDW at bhill07.freeserve.co.uk (Terry Wade) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:41:46 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO: WEBSITE UPDATE DLH/LH ATC callsign tie-ups Message-ID: <008c01c537cb$ac971b40$db0f4c51@w9i2a0> For anyone interested I have now added to my website a full list of Lufthansa DLH/LH ATC alpha numeric callsign tie-ups to my website, the website address is: **************************************************************** http://members.lycos.co.uk/WADET/index.htm ****************************************************** A LINK TO MY AIRLINERS.NET photos can be found on my index page I hope the list is of use to some people. Kindest Regards Terry Wade From kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 2 16:52:52 2005 From: kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk (Gordon Spence) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:57:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req Globespan 6153 References: <002001c537c9$15ac6160$fc170c52@c3r5f9> Message-ID: <005501c537ce$52b9b4e0$11a12e50@Gordon> Hi The aircraft was OK-TVR. Flyglobespan billboard titles and Travelservice tail colours. Cheers Gordon.S ----- Original Message ----- From: "jayne4esnob" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:15 PM Subject: [CAE] Req Globespan 6153 Hi all, can anyone put reg to Globespan (GSM) 6153 @ 1900 into Glasgow (I think) today 2-4-05. - Many thanks Pete _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From macurran at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 16:55:20 2005 From: macurran at blueyonder.co.uk (Mark Curran) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:58:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG : LTN 18:00 ish Sat Message-ID: Earlier this evening at Lu=92hun, regulars, based stuff excluded, the = promise of a cup of coffee from Greg meant I was a man on a mission and speed = was essential=85. =20 Pond Nowt =20 Magec LX-GDC Chally =20 NWC N818BA G4 N598MT CL6 =20 New Harrods hangar area CS-DMA Be400 N254SJ BBJ =20 South CS-DHH Bravo! CS-DHK Bravo! CS-DHM Bravo! CS-DKA G4 OE-IGS BD700 (not read off, assumed from t=92other reports, see coffee = issue above) P4-MES B.767 =20 One mover & shaker was N168BF, 125, landing at about 18:15. =20 I also visited Southend earlier in the day but as the log has changed = not one iota since the last 15 or 20 logs I=92ve read from the place I = won=92t list them all out again. Suffice to say it=92s a hell of a walk from the = terminal to the 748s! =20 Mark =20 =20 Mark Curran =93where=92s LTN?=94 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release Date: 29/03/2005 =20 From kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk Sat Apr 2 17:05:37 2005 From: kylieworld at tiscali.co.uk (Gordon Spence) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:09:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:-Glasgow/EGPF SAT 02/04/2005 Message-ID: <000a01c537d0$1a6be110$11a12e50@Gordon> Hi all, 1st visits noted at Glasgow today were:- OE-LNM B737-6 "AUA9381/9382" 0939/1101 Stand 34. A6-EMO B777-3 "UAE25/26" 1155/1424 Stand 30. Cheers GS For full logs visit www.egpf.vze.com From a.kisgergely at freemail.hu Sat Apr 2 17:17:26 2005 From: a.kisgergely at freemail.hu (András Kisgergely) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:17:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: BUDAPEST+BUDAORS In-Reply-To: <20050402111000.89334.qmail@web86908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi James, yes, it was TC-HAA, it looked like an Aerosp. AS350B Ecureuil; not based at Budapest, neither in Hungary, definitely it was just on a fuelstop. Andr?s www.pannonslides.fly.to www.flying.to/budapest > -----Original Message----- > From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com > [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com]On Behalf Of JAMES PAVELEY > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:10 PM > To: CAE@aviationlists.com > Subject: [CAE] REQ: BUDAPEST+BUDAORS > > > Hi all, > > The chopper I saw at Budaors and Budapest on 30-03-05 and > 31-03-05. I was 99% sure of the reg being TC-HAA. > > Does anybody know if this aircraft is based in Hungary and even > better, does anybody have a photograph or know where a photo can > be viewed online. It was white with a destinctive blue and red > line pattern on the side. (definitely a Squirrel). > > Thanks for any help with this difficult request! > > Cheers > James > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > ____________________________________________________________________ Miert fizetsz az internetert? Korlatlan, ingyenes internet hozzaferes a FreeStarttol. Probald ki most! http://www.freestart.hu From kevindupuy at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Apr 2 17:39:51 2005 From: kevindupuy at blueyonder.co.uk (Kevin Dupuy) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:41:24 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV Southend Message-ID: <002301c537d4$e2313fc0$7602c150@sunriver> 27/3 GBSNR B463 from Stansted,respray hangar2 FGXFP ALO2 dep to Bury St Edmunds GJANA,GAWOE,GVICM 28/3 TFJXB MD82 JXX901 from Luton CSTGY ATP dep to Lisbon SEEZO P28A dep to Bremen GEGTR,GBPTE,GFNPT,GMAFF(WDG92),GBOLY, GBLJO,GJANN(SYG05T),GTEST(STL01),ZF573(RRR7990), 29/3 N1024L BE60 from Cannes,North Weald div,n/s GMKSS H25B from Cannes,Biggin div,n/s DCAAM D228 AZE81DF/82D from Zweibrucken to Cologne OOVLE F50 VLM25M/26P from Manchester to London City,London City div LXWAL ATP WLX611 dep to CDG GCDEG B738 GSM099P dep to Glasgow-now with winglets GBZDH,GTEST(STL16),GHCSL,GBSWR 30/3 ECHCH SW4 OVAX41/X42 from Cologne to Valencia HATCP AN26 CNB2601/2602 from Hahn to Stuttgart N5120 B430 from Wigan to Rochester GBPNT B463 FLT897P dep to Villafranca GBTXN B463 FLT251M dep to Norwich GMKSS H25B dep to Farnborough GMAFF(WDG92),GUVNA,GBOJI, 31/3 GFRYI BE20 LNX01 from/to Stapleford EICOH B734 ADH8961 from Fiumicino,maint ATC EICOK B734 ADH8962 from Ciampino,maint ATC N297GT TB20 from Charleroi to Dunkeswell GIGOR B733 EZY8005 from Stansted,maint ATC VPCSA B732 dep to Luton GOCFM(STL16),GMOMO,GSSXX(HLE7A/7E), GMAFF(WDG92),ZH540(SRG126), 1/4 OOROB AC90 from Antwerp to Fairoaks N321KL M20P from/to Stapleford N147GT SR22 from/to Denham N1024L BE60 dep to North Weald GSGSE,GBOJZ,GBTNH,GTOPS(SVH51),GCHTA, GBSVM,GDIZY,GIPUP,GBBZV,GOJRM,GHAFG, GBOOG,GBGND,GSEXX,GBYBC(Helicharter03), 2/4 N36NB BE36 from/to Biggin OOTBB TB10 from/to Wevelgem SECEE PA18 from/to Great Oakley TFJXB MD82 EAF616P dep to Stansted FHABO DA40 from Biggin to Le Touquet DEBWS C210 from Courchevel,n/s GEGTR,GOMOL,GLOLA,GAVUH,GDAVO,GBTMA, GSHAY,GCCKI,GARYK,GOBFS,GOBNA,GBNXT, GBAJO,GCCYY(FFC003),GBYHH,GBTRK,GBNDR, GBYBC(Helicharter03),GAZDD,GBYLE,GJETX, A couple of people are asking,the BE9L OYJRO is using the callsign HighFive,three letter code TRJ,company is Trans Euro Air. The MD80s when on Jetix own callsigns are JXX,Jetbird. Cheers Kev From GBloom1135 at aol.com Sat Apr 2 18:26:51 2005 From: GBloom1135 at aol.com (GBloom1135@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:16:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] NY JFK/LGA MOV: 3-31-05 Message-ID: <13c.10646058.2f80843b@aol.com> Seen on 3-31: JFK: FX 1431- MD10- N357FE SA 203- A340- ZS-SXB LA 530- 767- CC-CDP B6 45- A320- N556JB B6 73- A320- N510JB B6 37- A320- N505JB AA 10- 767- N328AA MQ 756- ERJ- N721HS OZ 2981- 747- HL7426 RG 8864- 777- PP-VRA DL 2055- 757- N6705Y DL 81- 767- N184DN DL 141- 767- N198DN NW 18- 747- N667US DL 172- 767- N179DN DL 170- 767- N191DN B6 55- A320- N546JB B6 7- A320- N599JB AA 131- 777- N772AN LH 404- 747- D-ABVM AA 121- 767- N385AM BA 113- 777- G-YMMJ SV 903- 747- HZ-AIU SV 34- 777- HZ-AKG LGA: US 2163- A319- N706US US 963- 737- N391US UA 689- 757- N558UA Greg From martin_lindsey.wilson at virgin.net Sat Apr 2 18:37:56 2005 From: martin_lindsey.wilson at virgin.net (Martin Wilson) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:16:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? References: <20050402213320.EFVZ5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@eddiepc> Message-ID: <007601c537dd$0023e660$29800252@MartinWilson> Eddie, OY-NPE has recently been flying for Atlantic, perhaps it was that one? Cheers, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Swift" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? > Evening all, > > Visited Coventry to catch up with another Antonov airframe begging, ES-NOI > seen. > > Logged OY-NPC and EC-JCU both metros. Can someone confirm that OY-NPC is > correct as I have this w/o 10/9/2004? > > Would be grateful, as NPA which I have seen logged here lately is needed > as > a frame, > > Thanks > > Eddie Swift > From mikkelly at indigo.ie Sat Apr 2 18:39:42 2005 From: mikkelly at indigo.ie (MK) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] Mov; Dublin Sat night 2/4/05 Message-ID: <424F3B4E.31845.6F4133@localhost> L's&G Overnighting at Dublin Sat night.. HA-LOK B737 Malev SP-LKB B737 LOT D-ABIU B737 Lufthansa Visiting at 0015 TS-INI A320 EC-GOT A310 opertaed the EI2132 from Boston, arr circa 2130 Regards Michael Kelly / Dublin From fherring at btinternet.com Sat Apr 2 18:43:58 2005 From: fherring at btinternet.com (Frank Herrington) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req:Gatwick 02-04-205 Message-ID: <000001c537dd$d71ae010$0100a8c0@fh> Hi I am sorting out my log will post tomorrow AM, but does anyone know :- 1) The Nationwide 2) The Air Zimbabwe 3) The United Arab Emirates in front of the Nationwide Many thanks Frank From DWhite at geo-logistics.com Sat Apr 2 18:56:36 2005 From: DWhite at geo-logistics.com (dazgeo) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] Due: LHR Sun 03.04.05 ZS-SXD A343 SA222 Message-ID: Good Morning All !, Just to advise all that ZS-SXD A343 SAA is planned to operate the SAA222 Eta 0945am from Cape Town later this morning. As always subject to alteration without prior notice etc........... Cheers Darren W From steven.warren at firenet.uk.com Sat Apr 2 19:40:34 2005 From: steven.warren at firenet.uk.com (Steven Warren) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:06 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ:Movement on the M5 Message-ID: All, No its not an April fool unlike the Sudan Yak42 that was supposedly arriving into Heathrow on Friday afternoon. Don't you just love those wits! Anyway heading back North in the early hours of Saturday morning after working down South all week as usual I passed a large airliner on the M5 North bound on the stretch directly West of Birmingham. Before anyone says keep taking the tablets, it was on a transporter yellow lights flashing and two vans following also with flashing lights. It was about A319 size , top white , lower dark blue with a yellow cheatline not unlike Ryanair. Anybody know about this? From LARSVICTORIN at MSN.COM Sat Apr 2 20:33:45 2005 From: LARSVICTORIN at MSN.COM (Lars Victorin) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:07 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Washington IAD 2 Apr 1430-1440 Message-ID: Hi ! Just a quick stop on the way to DC : ER 72F N750DH* 5X 75F N453UP* AF 772 F-GSPC ET 763 ET-ALO BA 772 G-VIIM BD 332 G-WWBM SK 333 SE-REE LH 333 D-AIKH* Request : JIA CR7 ?? Take Care Lars Victorin From markgerrard at comcast.net Sat Apr 2 22:32:17 2005 From: markgerrard at comcast.net (Mark Gerrard) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:13 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG and REQ FRAnkfurt 13 March Message-ID: <424F63C1.4040508@comcast.net> Hi All, Better late than never! Here is a log from a 6 hour transit through FRAnkfurt. For those unfamiliar with 3 letter codes, the clue is in the first three letters of the place name ;-) First the REQS: On arrival at 11am 3 Lufthansa Cargo MD11's on the Cargo Apron An LTU A321 parked on T2 remote all day Around 5pm a 737 landed. I couldn't get a reg. but I wrote Israir with a question mark against it. Any ideas?? Alitalia EM170 arrived arpund 5pm Kalitta 747 on cargo at 5pm LH340 in Star Alliance c/s parked outside Lufthansa Technik at 5pm A300 with Cargo titles arrived 420pm Gemini MD-11 on cargo at 5pm Finnair A320 departed approx 1105am 3 Biz on vip ramp Reg Seen Type C/n Airline 4X-EAD BOEING 767 22975 EL AL 5B-DAV AIRBUS A320 0037 Cyprus Airways 7T-VJN BOEING 737NG 30206 Air Algerie 9A-CTG AIRBUS A319 0767 Croatia Airlines 9K-AMB AIRBUS A300 694 Kuwait Airways 9M-MRK BOEING 777 28418 Malaysia Airlines 9V-SFG BOEING 747 26558 Singapore Airlines Cargo A6-ERE AIRBUS A340 572 Emirates AP-BEC AIRBUS A310 590 Pakistan International Airlines B-16111 DOUGLAS MD-11 48787 EVA Air B-18702 BOEING 747 30760 China Airlines B-2469 BOEING 747 28756 Air China B-HOY BOEING 747 25351 Cathay Pacific C-GFAJ AIRBUS A330 284 Air Canada C-GHLK BOEING 767 26388 Air Canada C-GHLM AIRBUS A330 419 Air Canada CC-CQE AIRBUS A340 429 LAN Chile CN-RNW BOEING 737NG 33057 Royal Air Maroc CS-TTD AIRBUS A319 0790 TAP Air Portugal CS-TTO AIRBUS A319 1127 TAP Air Portugal D-ABBE BOEING 737NG 30881 Air Berlin D-ABEA BOEING 737 24565 Lufthansa D-ABED BOEING 737 25215 Lufthansa D-ABEE BOEING 737 25216 Lufthansa D-ABEN BOEING 737 26428 Lufthansa D-ABID BOEING 737 24818 Lufthansa D-ABII BOEING 737 24822 Lufthansa D-ABIK BOEING 737 24823 Lufthansa D-ABIK BOEING 737 24823 Lufthansa D-ABIR BOEING 737 24941 Lufthansa D-ABIT BOEING 737 24943 Lufthansa D-ABJA BOEING 737 25270 Lufthansa D-ABJB BOEING 737 25271 Lufthansa D-ABJD BOEING 737 25309 Lufthansa D-ABOE BOEING 757 29012 Thomas Cook Airlines By Condor D-ABTF BOEING 747 24967 Lufthansa D-ABTH BOEING 747 25047 Lufthansa D-ABTL BOEING 747 29872 Lufthansa D-ABUA BOEING 767 26991 Thomas Cook Airlines By Condor D-ABVC BOEING 747 24288 Lufthansa D-ABVE BOEING 747 24741 Lufthansa D-ABVL BOEING 747 26425 Lufthansa D-ABVU BOEING 747 29492 Lufthansa D-ABVX BOEING 747 29868 Lufthansa D-ABXL BOEING 737 23531 Lufthansa D-ABXU BOEING 737 24282 Lufthansa D-ABXW BOEING 737 24561 Lufthansa D-ABXX BOEING 737 24562 Lufthansa D-ABXY BOEING 737 24563 Lufthansa D-ABVZ BOEING 747 29870 Lufthansa D-ACJF CANADAIR REGIONAL JET 7200 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLB CANADAIR REGIONAL JET 7005 Lufthansa Regional D-ACLC CANADAIR REGIONAL JET 7006 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPE CANADAIR CRJ-700 10027 Lufthansa Regional D-ACPI CANADAIR CRJ-700 10046 Lufthansa Regional D-AEWA BAE 146 E3163 Lufthansa Regional D-AEWD BAE 146 E2069 Lufthansa Regional D-AGPD FOKKER 100 11281 Germania D-AHFK BOEING 737NG 27991 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHLA AIRBUS A310 520 Hapag-Lloyd D-AHLR BOEING 737NG 32907 Hapag-Lloyd D-AIAH AIRBUS A300 380 Lufthansa D-AIAM AIRBUS A300 408 Lufthansa D-AIAP AIRBUS A300 414 Lufthansa D-AIAS AIRBUS A300 553 Lufthansa D-AIAU AIRBUS A300 623 Lufthansa D-AIAY AIRBUS A300 608 Lufthansa D-AIAZ AIRBUS A300 701 Lufthansa D-AIAZ AIRBUS A300 701 Lufthansa D-AIFA AIRBUS A340 352 Lufthansa D-AIFB AIRBUS A340 355 Lufthansa D-AIFD AIRBUS A340 390 Lufthansa D-AIGN AIRBUS A340 213 Lufthansa D-AIGP AIRBUS A340 252 Lufthansa D-AIGU AIRBUS A340 321 Lufthansa D-AIGY AIRBUS A340 335 Lufthansa D-AIHA AIRBUS A340 482 Lufthansa D-AIHA AIRBUS A340 482 Lufthansa D-AIHB AIRBUS A340 517 Lufthansa D-AIHF AIRBUS A340 543 Lufthansa D-AIHK AIRBUS A340 580 Lufthansa D-AIKG AIRBUS A330 645 Lufthansa D-AILE AIRBUS A319 0627 Lufthansa D-AILR AIRBUS A319 0723 Lufthansa D-AIMG AIRBUS A340 051 Lufthansa D-AIPF AIRBUS A320 0083 Lufthansa D-AIPF AIRBUS A320 0083 Lufthansa D-AIPM AIRBUS A320 0104 Lufthansa D-AIPP AIRBUS A320 0110 Lufthansa D-AIPZ AIRBUS A320 0162 Lufthansa D-AIQB AIRBUS A320 0200 Lufthansa D-AIQF AIRBUS A320 0216 Lufthansa D-AIQH AIRBUS A320 0217 Lufthansa D-AIQL AIRBUS A320 0267 Lufthansa D-AIQT AIRBUS A320 1337 Lufthansa D-AIRC AIRBUS A321 0473 Lufthansa D-AIRD AIRBUS A321 0474 Lufthansa D-AIRH AIRBUS A321 0412 Lufthansa D-AIRK AIRBUS A321 0502 Lufthansa D-AIRL AIRBUS A321 0505 Lufthansa D-AIRN AIRBUS A321 0560 Lufthansa D-AIRS AIRBUS A321 0595 Lufthansa D-AIRU AIRBUS A321 0692 Lufthansa D-AIRW AIRBUS A321 0699 Lufthansa D-AIRX AIRBUS A321 0887 Lufthansa D-AISB AIRBUS A321 1080 Lufthansa D-AISC AIRBUS A321 1161 Lufthansa D-AISE AIRBUS A321 1214 Lufthansa D-AISF AIRBUS A321 1260 Lufthansa D-ALCS DOUGLAS MD-11 48630 Lufthansa Cargo D-ALTF AIRBUS A320 1553 LTU International Airways D-ALTI AIRBUS A320 1806 LTU International Airways D-ANFE ATR-72 294 Lufthansa Regional D-ANFJ ATR-72 664 Lufthansa Regional D-ATUI BOEING 737NG 30287 Hapag-Lloyd D-AVRA BAE 146 E2256 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRE BAE 146 E2261 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRF BAE 146 E2269 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRK BAE 146 E2278 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRM BAE 146 E2288 Lufthansa Regional D-AVRO BAE 146 E2246 Lufthansa Regional D-CLUB LEARJET 60 60-249 Jet Connection Businessflight AG EC-FFI DOUGLAS MD-87 53210 Iberia EC-HTB AIRBUS A320 1530 Iberia EC-ILH AIRBUS A320 1914 Spanair EC-IZK AIRBUS A320 2223 Spanair EI-CXN BOEING 737 23772 Transaero Airlines EI-DFC FOKKER 100 11296 EUJet EI-DFJ EMBRAER EMB170 17000011 Alitalia Express EW-251PA BOEING 737 27634 Belavia F-GJNA BOEING 737 25206 Air France F-GJNG BOEING 737 25232 Air France F-OGYP AIRBUS A310 442 Sibir Airlines F-OHGC AIRBUS A320 0407 Royal Jordanian Airlines F-ORMG AIRBUS A321 1956 MEA G-BUSB AIRBUS A320 0006 British Airways G-CPEN BOEING 757 28666 British Airways HB-INJ CANADAIR GLOBAL EXPRESS 9086 Japat AG HB-JAT EMBRAER EMB145 145564 Swiss HL7413 BOEING 747 25405 Asiana Airlines HL7499 BOEING 747 33517 Korean Air HS-TGB BOEING 747 32370 Thai Airways International HZ-AKB BOEING 777 28345 Saudi Arabian Airlines I-ADLN ATR-72 557 Lufthansa Regional JA8096 BOEING 747 24920 All Nippon Airways JA8167 BOEING 747 23138 Nippon Cargo Airlines LN-RCW BOEING 737NG 28308 SAS LN-RCY BOEING 737NG 28324 SAS LN-RKI AIRBUS A321 1817 SAS LN-RPF BOEING 737NG 28307 SAS LN-RPY BOEING 737NG 28292 SAS LX-LGV EMBRAER EMB145 145129 Luxair LY-AZY BOEING 737 26287 Lithuanian Airlines N1501P BOEING 767 24983 Delta Air Lines N197UA BOEING 747 26901 United Airlines N198UA BOEING 747 28716 United Airlines N354AA BOEING 767 24035 American Airlines N492MC BOEING 747 29253 China Southern Airlines N528MC BOEING 747 22472 Atlas Air N671UW AIRBUS A330 323 US Airways N678US AIRBUS A330 388 US Airways N780UA BOEING 777 26944 United Airlines OE-LFP FOKKER 70 11560 Austrian OE-LTL DHC-8 485 Austrian Arrows OE-LVD FOKKER 100 11515 Austrian Arrows P4-FAS BOEING 757 29489 Air Astana PH-KZM FOKKER 70 11561 KLM Cityhopper PP-VQF DOUGLAS MD-11 48502 VARIG PP-VRF BOEING 777 30214 VARIG RA-64019 TUPOLEV 204 1450743164019 Kras Air RA-85658 TUPOLEV 154 89A-808 Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise RA-85760 TUPOLEV 154 92A-942 Aeroflot Russian Airlines SE-DIF DOUGLAS MD-87 49606 SAS SP-EDD ATR-42 530 EuroLot SP-LGM EMBRAER EMB145 145408 LOT Polish Airlines SU-GBG AIRBUS A320 0366 Egypt Air TC-JFT BOEING 737NG 29780 Turkish Airlines TC-JLB AIRBUS A320 0562 Turkish Airlines TC-JLC AIRBUS A320 0566 Turkish Airlines TC-JLD AIRBUS A320 0574 Turkish Airlines TC-MNI BOEING 737 24128 MNG Airlines TC-OGI AIRBUS A320 0640 Atlasjet International Airways TF-FIR BOEING 757 26242 Air Luxor TS-IME AIRBUS A320 0123 Tunisair UR-GAM BOEING 737 25190 Ukraine International Airlines V8-RBH BOEING 767 25534 Royal Brunei Airlines VN-A145 BOEING 777 33504 Vietnam Airlines VT-EPW BOEING 747 24159 Air India VT-ESP BOEING 747 27214 Air India VT-EVA BOEING 747 28094 Air India YR-BGD BOEING 737 27182 TAROM YU-ANK BOEING 737 23715 JAT Airways YU-AOP FOKKER 100 11332 Montenegro Airlines From chris.witt at t-online.de Sun Apr 3 00:47:47 2005 From: chris.witt at t-online.de (Chris T-Online) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:14 2005 Subject: [CAE] DUE: special livery D-AIRX A321 Lufthansa References: <051301c537b3$0c37e2f0$0200a8c0@andysnightmare> Message-ID: <00d201c53810$aa84cfb0$6490100a@VECTRA> Morning all, So far planned a one off for 1 year. Pending on the success someones mind might be turned? Chris > I quite agree and I hope that the powers that be at Lufthansa agree too, I > think that would look good on the whole fleet. > > Do any of our viewers in Germany know if there is any plans for any other > aircraft joining this for the celebrations or is it a one off? > > Andy From nikfrench at whsmithnet.co.uk Sun Apr 3 01:33:34 2005 From: nikfrench at whsmithnet.co.uk (Nik French) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:17 2005 Subject: [CAE] Due MANchester Sunday 3-4-05 - Including MAS Special scheme !! Message-ID: <005901c53817$28749760$5e792b50@yourr50edlrte1> Morning all A couple of the more interesting arrivals noted on the screens before leaving work this morning TS-IQA A.321 Nouvelair 09.35 in - 10.35 out No Reg B.737-800 Travel Service 10.50 in - 11.50 out 9M-MPD B.747-400 Malaysian (Special Colours) In 17.10 Best regards NIK From depledge.air at lineone.net Sun Apr 3 03:03:21 2005 From: depledge.air at lineone.net (David Depledge) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? In-Reply-To: <20050402213320.EFVZ5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@eddiepc> Message-ID: OY-NPA is based at Coventry. There were no other OY- Metros that day David Depledge Reporting from Coventry www.supportcoventryairport.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com]On Behalf Of Eddie Swift Sent: 02 April 2005 22:36 To: cae@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? Evening all, Visited Coventry to catch up with another Antonov airframe begging, ES-NOI seen. Logged OY-NPC and EC-JCU both metros. Can someone confirm that OY-NPC is correct as I have this w/o 10/9/2004? Would be grateful, as NPA which I have seen logged here lately is needed as a frame, Thanks Eddie Swift _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From eswift at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 03:21:08 2005 From: eswift at ntlworld.com (Eddie Swift) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050403071757.JWCG5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@eddiepc> Good Morning, Thanks to David amongst others for clearing this up, Great response, Cheers, Eddie Swift -----Original Message----- From: David Depledge [mailto:depledge.air@lineone.net] Sent: 03 April 2005 08:03 To: Eddie Swift Cc: CAE Subject: RE: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? OY-NPA is based at Coventry. There were no other OY- Metros that day David Depledge Reporting from Coventry www.supportcoventryairport.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com]On Behalf Of Eddie Swift Sent: 02 April 2005 22:36 To: cae@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] REQ: Coventry CVT 28.03.05 ? Evening all, Visited Coventry to catch up with another Antonov airframe begging, ES-NOI seen. Logged OY-NPC and EC-JCU both metros. Can someone confirm that OY-NPC is correct as I have this w/o 10/9/2004? Would be grateful, as NPA which I have seen logged here lately is needed as a frame, Thanks Eddie Swift _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From john.dyer at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 03:31:12 2005 From: john.dyer at tiscali.co.uk (John Dyer) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Takeley, Hunsdon, Graveley, Rush Green 02/04/05 Message-ID: The following noted en route from Stansted to Luton yesterday morning TAKELEY/STREET FARM A very friendly welcome as always, but please remember that they DO NOT like visitors on a Sunday G-BUJZ/BVOY/BVTV/BWUJ/BYNH/BZBW/BZXD/CBJV/CCFY/CCMU/ESUS/FLIT/WHOO - all Rotorway Executives HUNSDON Access to wander around the "spectators' area" granted - everything could easily be seen from there G-BRJB Zenair CH601HD G-BZPN Mainair Blade G-CBUX Cyclone AX2000 G-CCWO Pegasus Quantum G-JGSI Pegasus Quantum G-MMWX Puma Sprint G-MZFV Pegasus Quantum G-MZNP Pegasus Quantum G-MZNT Pegasus Quantum GRAVELEY/HALL FARM Friendly reception. Only two "hangars" open (not sure just how many there are!) G-BGBE DR1050 G-BVJH Pulsar G-BYLC Pegasus Quantum G-BZYN Pegasus Quantum G-CBLA Pulsar XP G-CCDZ Pegasus Quantum G-MTGH Gemini Flash G-MVKK Pegasus XL-R G-MVKZ Chaser S G-MVYE Thruster TST G-MWYI Pegasus Quasar G-MYDZ Balerit G-PBEL Shadow G-TRYK Kiss 400 RUSH GREEN Permission granted from a chap working on an unmarked Vans RV-6 in a shed to look round, but NOT to enter the hanger. Observed from the hangar entrance (think we logged everything) were: G-AHAM Auster J/5 G-ANCS DH82A G-APLU DH82A (G-AV)OC DR221 G-AWJN Aeronca 7AC G-AZGZ/NM181 DH82A G-CIBO Cessna 180K G-JANS Cessna FR172J Hope of interest John From ian at gifford747.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 03:36:17 2005 From: ian at gifford747.wanadoo.co.uk (ian gifford) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:29 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req:Leeds 31/3/05 Goldair36b Message-ID: <000601c5381f$d3cbfd30$35e086d9@rosedale> Noted the above departing at 1916 but unable to ident any help please it should have landed at approx 1615 with above callsign according to flytecomm. Many Thanks Ian. From hawkseye at snap.net.nz Sun Apr 3 22:40:17 2005 From: hawkseye at snap.net.nz (Phil Hawks) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Manchester (various - 1998/1999) Message-ID: <4250A911.8020904@snap.net.nz> Hi all Just rediscovered my old log books from my time in Manchester, containing various queries that I never tied up at the time. Any help gratefully received. 21/9/98 ????? F100 Portugalia (NI600) 2/12/98 ????? B757 Transaero (in storage?) 23/1/99 ????? B767/763 American ??082? DC10 Continental ????? B744 SIA ????? Hercules RAF (x6) 30/1/99 A6-EKO? A300 Emirates (EK035) 7/2/99 N966SW? C550 17/2/99 EI-CDE? B735 Aer Lingus (EI206) 3/3/99 G-BWNZ? Agusta 109 HB-VKO? Falcon 20 16/3/99 ????? Saab 2000 Crossair (evening flight) 24/3/99 G-PROD? AS355 ????? Saab 2000 Crossair (LX886) ????? Jetstream 31 5E (evening flight) (another problem with only using codes - you can't even remember which airline it was yourself ....... 5E? I obviously knew it at the time ....... :-) 28/4/99 SE-DIV? MD87? SAS (SK1539) 17/5/99 ????? A321 Onur Air (departed from MAN approx. 1250) 25/5/99 ????? B763 American Many thanks Phil Hawks Visit my website 'Hawkseye Aviation Photos' http://fly.to/hawkseye From Andy.Shackleford at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 04:25:10 2005 From: Andy.Shackleford at btinternet.com (Andy Shackleford) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:35 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 Message-ID: <001a01c53826$a7642cc0$2a0d8751@ltq8u> Noted at Stansted at 06.30: P4-AAA BD.700 ZS-AOL G-1159 N371CD B.737 OE-IWP EMB.135 A4O-OMN B.747 SU-EWC Cessna 560 N123M G-1159 Noted at 18.30: A6-EJB BD.700 ZS-AOL G-1159 OE-IWP EMB.135 SU-EWC Cessna 560 RA-85702 Tu-154 KrasAir (Anyone know where this parked, it seemed to turn right at runway end and disappeared!) Andy S. From hutchair at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 04:33:56 2005 From: hutchair at btinternet.com (anthony hutchings) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:40 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log: Dunkeswell 2/4/05 Message-ID: <013401c53827$e069d780$0100a8c0@ANTHONY> Seen between 1500-1530 in the flying club area G-BYHI Pa28 G-BHUG C172 G-PEJM Pa28 N1FD Tobago G-AVSI Pa28 G-CBKR Pa28 G-AZWE Pa28 G-BPFZ C152 G-BAMB Falke G-BCCJ AA5 photos of N1FD,G-BAMB and G-BYHI have just been added to http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hutchair@btinternet.com/album?.dir=b38e Anthony Hutchings Join the East Devon group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eastdevonspotters/ See my photos at these sites http://www.jetphotos.net/members/photostats.php?photog_id=1115 http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Anthony%20Hutchings http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=6664 From plane.spotter at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 04:44:17 2005 From: plane.spotter at ntlworld.com (Duane Charles) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Earls Colne 28/03/05 Message-ID: <20050403084432.EPVN1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Apologies for the repeat request, as I know it was asked for last week. I didn't see the reply (I didn't make the request) Could someone please tell me the reg of a Harvard which has the following marks on: At the top of the tail is GTOMBAY has the code RD and the serial 212540. It is dark green in colour has 40 under the cockpit canopy the tail is yellow and red. Info taken a digital picture I took of it. MTIA Duane Charles From stumac at westnet.com.au Sun Apr 3 05:25:53 2005 From: stumac at westnet.com.au (Stuart McCarthy) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req: Tie up for PK-LEC Message-ID: <424FB6A1.3070108@westnet.com.au> Hi all. Would someone be able to help with c/n and pid of Beech Queen Air PK-LEC, I found reference to SAATAS, Indonesia, but nothing else. The wings are currently sitting in a yard at the rear of the Australian National Aviation Museum, Moorabbin, Melbourne, Australia. Any help would be appriciated. Stuart McCarthy Perth Oz From archflipflop at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 05:30:28 2005 From: archflipflop at tiscali.co.uk (archflipflop@tiscali.co.uk) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:17:46 2005 Subject: [CAE] FW: log.south of france Message-ID: <4233A3B50006973C@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> >-- Original Message -- >To: "airline list" ,"civil spotters" ,"bob >mulford" , >Subject: log.south of france > > >Noted on a trip to south of france were the following :- > >Nice 25/3/05 > >HB-JEJ DH8 FLYBABOO >EC-IRI CRJ AIR NOSTRUM >I-DATQ MD80 ALITALIA >G-CELJ 737 JET2 >N1605 767 DELTA >TS-IMH A320 TUNIS >OE-ILW F27 >G-OTBA BAe748 >OE-GPZ C560 >VP-CJP CL601 >HB-ITF G4 >HB-IMY G4 >G-DEZC BAe125 >CS-DHE C550 >G-IFTE BAe125 >CS-DNY C560 >G-FRYL PREMIER > > >CANNES 25/3/05 >N45JB F20 >D-IATM BKA >OO-FYG C550 >VP-CEZ F900EX >OE-FUJ C525 >F-HASC C525 >VP-CIC CL604 >LX-GNG BKA (BEING PAINTED IN HANGER) >G-JETC C550 >OY-LJJ LJ >N278GA ASTRA >G-REYS CL604 >N7208E BKA >CS-DNZ C560 > > >HYERES 25/3/05 >OO-TUB 737 >F-GRHT A319 > > >MARIGNANE 25/3/05 >F-GCLD BKA >F-GHVF SWM >D-ACPS CRJ >F-GLXJ 737 >F-GIXI 737 >F-GCSL 737 >F-GIXG 737 >7T-VES 737 >G-JEMB ATP >RA-82078 AN124 >CS-DFZ BAE125 >LX-WAN ATP >YK-AKA A320 >RA-42442 YAK42 >F-GYJM A320 > > > >PERPIGNAN 26/3/05 >5T-CLP 727 >N359PA 727 >............ 737 (POSS EX-????) >TR-??? 737 (POSS A 300 ?) >F-GGGR 727 >F-GCGQ 727 >TC-FBG MD80 >F-GZJM METRO >F-GPXD FK100 > >MONTPELLIER 26/3/05 >F-BTTE MERCURE >F-GGLN BKA >F-AZRH N260 >F-GTSN E120 >F-GPMD A319 >EI-DCL 737 > > >NIMES-GARONS 26/3/05 >SX-CVC DC10 >F-BTDD DC10 >F-GNEM DC10 >F-GNPD BKA >F-GPAC BKA >F-GPAB F20 >N MD80 US AIR >N2264 737 > > >MARIGNANE 27/3/05 >F-GYAN A321 >EI-OZC A300 >SU-LBD A320 >F-GVZZ ATR42 >F-GHQF QA320 >F-GMGK ATR42 >F-GRHQ A320 >F-GYAO A321 >F-GMVU S2000 >F-GYFM A319 >F-GRHD A319 > > >LA MOLE 27/3/05 >LX-VAZ C550 >OO-SKL BKA >HB-GJS BKA > > >CANNES 27/3/05 >D-ISXT PREMIER >F-GCTR BKA >LX-FOX C525 >N259SC BQA >CS-DHM C550 >CS-DHI C550 >F-GSMC C550 >N950H F50 >SE-KOL BKA >N560DE C560 >OO-FPA C550 >N71FB LJ > > >NICE 27/3/05 >N105LF F2000 >PH-DMQ DH8 >OY-SEH 737 >OY-SEC 737 >OY-SEL 737 >9H-AEE LJ >OY-LGI LJ >F-GKPF ATR42 >D-BURT F2000 >D-AGEG 737 >EI-WJN BAe125 >EC-HVV F10 >VP-BNT F2000 >I-DANW MD80 >LN-TUJ 737 >F-GHNS ATR42 >CS-DFQ C560 >CS-TPF FK100 >HB-JVF FK100 > > >NICE 28/5/05 >EC-IJP CRJ >F-GKPH ATR42 >PH-HZK 737 >G-EZBS A319 >OO-VEG 737 >HB-JZF A319 >N511PA G4 >G-EJJB A319 >HB-JEK DH8 >EC-JCO CRJ >D-CLEO C560 >F-GRZG CRJ7 >G-CELS 737 >EI-DGL 737 >EC-IJF CRJ >F-GRJR CRJ >I-ALPW FK100 >F-GKPC ATR72 >OY-SEK 737 >G-EZIA A319 >HB-GIL BKA >RA-42344 YAK42 >G-CELR 737 >G-CLAS S360 >VP-BWK A319 >F-GNMF F900 >I-RONY BAe125 >F-GCLD BQA >CS-DFP C550 >G-SGEC BKA >OE-LVC FK100 >F-GOHD ERJ >EC-??? CRJ ARRIVED 14.30 ISH > > >HOPE THIS IS OF USE > > >ARCH AND STU C > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ From archflipflop at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 06:14:33 2005 From: archflipflop at tiscali.co.uk (archflipflop@tiscali.co.uk) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:18:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] log.lights s of france Message-ID: <421DE17A000B8D7E@mk-cpfrontend-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com> cannes 25/3/05 {NOT 100% ON TYPES} F-GNJM DA40 F-CHXD MOTOR GLIDER F-GFGY PA28 F-GDDY C172 F-PRXA HOMEBUILT G-BBTS BONANZA F-GDLJ PA38 F-BRMK RALLYE F-PRNA F-GYKC ROBIN F-GXES PA31T F-GSBM ROBIN F-BGSD RC680 N8170E SR22 F-GVRH R22 OO-GMC PA34 F-HAAC ROBIN F-HAAD ROBIN F-HAAE ROBIN 3A-MCR EC120 3A-MLC AS350 N995BC C421 HB-YJG DYN AERO F-BXPX PA34 N1447C SR22 F-BRXG C172 F-GFQC TB20 F-GJRS PA34 F-BPAR RALLYE F-GSBM ROBIN F-GJYN R22 N815?? PA32 THINK IT ENDED 1Z ?? F-GSIX PA28 F-BUOP BE18 PRESERVED F-GTKP AS350 3A-MST MOONEY F-GJCM AS350 N48GC DUKE F-GSJT AS350 F-GCND C172 N20119 BE23 F-GCJM PA32 F-GNJV KATINA F-PMRR G-BMJL RC115 F-GH?? BARON F-BTMS PA23 F-BRGT PA28 N24SG PA34 F-GNGG MOONEY N7NP MD900 F-GIBQ PA28 F-GAUO CAP20 F-GMKR ROBIN F-GPHC C172 F-BUQG ROBIN HB-LTS PN68 F-GAME PA38 F-GPDH EC120 F-GMGG CUB LE LUC 25/3/05 F-GIBV PC6 CUERS 25/3/05 F-GMXA ROBIN N38CM C340 F-BRIE F-GJQZ ROBIN SP-AOO AN2 F-GJJM BROSSARD F-BTYQ PA23 F-GOUM CAP20 F-GJOZ F-AZHJ VAMPIRE F-PZTL F-GGJB ROBIN F-GTBY PN68 F-BVMB ROBIN F-AZPY YAK52 F-GYAV ROBIN F-AZYT AT6 F-GIKV F-GGBQ PA28 F-GXJA F-=BTPY F-GDSE F-HACV HYERES 25/3/05 F-GZAC AS350 D-HAFR B212 MARIGNANE 25/3/05 F-WWPN AS350 LEZIGNAN 26/3/05 F-GKUE TB20 F-GDPU PA31 F-CHCO F-BSYO RALLYE WRECK F-BTIK RALLYE WRECK PERPIGNAN 26/3/05 F-GRVK AL3 F-BRIF DO27 F-GEBO F-BKYU RALLYE F- ULM LOOKED LIKE F-EDYS ??? F-BPRG JODEL F-CAFA F-GMBA AS350 F-GFDE C172 F-GIDF F-OKAF C182 F-BPRZ RALLYE LX-OBI SR22 HB-CUD C172 D-ECKR C172 HB-SDC DIAMOND F-GNLB AL2 EC-HLU EC120 MONTPELLIER 26/3/05 F-BOOZ BARON F-GUVJ DIAMOND F-GUVN DIAMOND F-GUVK DIAMOND F-GUVM DIAMOND F-GUVO DIAMOND F-GJMC TB F-GHZI TB F-GLAH TB F-GJMD TB F-GJMB TB F-GLAE TB F-GEFH C172 F-GGLA BKA F-GMRN BQA D-IMWM F-GGLN BKA F-GARO RALLYE EC-CXC C337 N..08N DEBONAIR F-GMKI ROBIN NIMES GARONS 26/3/05 F-BREL F-GDFP F406 F-GUTO PA28 AIX EN PROVENCE 27/3/05 F-BXNN C172 F-GBRL DEBONAIR F-GACO RALLYE F-GLVP ROBIN F-GDSR PA32 F-GHMB MOONEY F-GILR R2160 F-GIEH PA28 F-GHSP C172 F-GCAO ROBIN F-GFLZ PA28 F-GLVA ROBIN F-BUOV AA56 F-GAHQ ROBIN F-GAKO RALLYE F-GIMM PA38 F-GDSE PA28 F-GNCC C206 F-BULK RALLYE F-CHXB F-BXMB RALLYE F-GCFN PA38 F-BUNP RALLYE F-GSRU F-GLVA ROBIN F-GCEJ F-GYKR CAP20 F-GDLX R44 CUERS 27/3 F-GEIR ROBIN F-AZLC WACO F-GBEQ PA28 F-PMEB JODEL F-GFZJ TB F-PRLF EMERAULD F-GHIY PA28 F-GJBM TB LA MOLE 27/3/05 PH-OAL PA31 D-FCJA PC12 F-GHYA C152 N381FG BONANZA F-BXLQ C337 OY-GSA PC12 CANNES 27/3/05 F-HEAD EC120 N1024L BE60 N259SC BQA N262LF BARON F-GRAJ PC12 OK-SUR C421 F-GEEK PA28 F-GLFY TB I-GBVD AS350 N414CE C414 F-BOJZ C401 F-GCOX TB PH-JFS PC12 3A-MSI PA31T HB-PFE PA28 F-GJCB PA28 F-BPAR RALLYE F-GTRP AS350 F-GPHC C172 F-PMRY F-GJPJ PA28 F-GDLJ PA38 F-GNMA BQA D-EGUL C172 F-PICK DYN AERO F-GSLT R44 MONACO 27/3/05 VP-BIR S76 ON BOAT 3A-MTP AS350 3A-MTT AS350 3A-MXL AS350 3A-MPJ EC120 3A-MFC EC120 3A-MCM SA365 3A-MJP SA365 NICE 27/3/05 D-FKAI PC12 NICE 28/3/05 N234RG PC12 arch and stu c ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/ From chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 3 06:12:47 2005 From: chris.mellon at gulfstream5.demon.co.uk (Chris & Christine Mellon) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:18:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Luton 2nd April 2005 + additions 1st Message-ID: <01C5383E.6BD9F0A0.chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk> 1/4 - Credit Keith Harris ========================= 1505 D-AKUE CL604 CLS323 AMS-NHT-LTN 1915 G-OOAP A320 FCA724D 2/4 === Credits: Doug Macdonald, Tony Williams, Johnny Vegas, Amanda Hunter, "Simon", Peter Barford, Colin Robinson, Anthony Lowe, Andrew Seabrook, Martin Sidwells, Keith Newman, Stephen lane, Ian Black, Michael Hatfield and Mark Curran. Covers 0725 - 2400 in full. 1505 D-AKUE CL604 CLS323 AMS-NHT-LTN 0138 dept VP-CEB BD700 LTN-TBS 0155/0301 757F BCS773/779 OPO-LTN-MXP 0356 757F BCS2411 0439 EC-HJU CV580 BCS2458 0705 dept G-OOAP A320 FCA168F LTN-EDI e0705/0807 HA-LPD A320 WZZ401W/102K e0711/0812 A320 WZZ201B/202B 0744/0841 HA-LPE A320 WZZ101K/402W 0805 N254SJ BBJ SFO-LTN 0832/1009 OO-DPB 757F BCS755/760 MXP-LTN-HAM 0838 CS-DRA HS125 NJE622P NHT-LTN 0930/1048 ATR72 REA501/502 0933/1043 737 HCY400/401 1008/1102 A319 EZY4951/4952 1012 dept HS125 NJE662R LTN-CIA 1056/1342 LX-FMR FA50 SVW402R GVA-LTN-CAI 1114 VP-CSF G4SP ZRH-LTN 1122 dept D-AUKE CL604 CLS323 LTN-TLV 1146/1246 Bae146 BRT1MX/2MX 1158 dept HS125 NJE366P LTN-CMF 1242/1325 OE-INF CL604 JMS202 LBG-LTN-MUC 1248/1329 D-AJGK G4SP QGA1872/1873 POZ-LTN-THF 1312 CS-DHE C550B NJE264F INV-LTN 1334 dept HS125 NJE358P LTN-NCE 1337 dept 757F BCS734 LTN-PRG 1340 dept G-NETA C560XL OXE188 LTN-SIR 1422 CS-DKA G4SP NJE371P SVO-LTN 1434 CS-DKB G5 NJE610P 1503 dept C550B NJE398P LTN-LPL 1546 C550B NJE074P Gamston -LTN 1549 dept N588GS F900EX LTN-HPN 1553/1648 ATR42 REA503/546 1731 OE-IGS BD700 COE862 SEZ-LTN 1746 G-SPUR C550 LNX401L CMF-LTN 1810/1902 N168BF HS125 TNG-LTN-FAB 1819/2339 OO-DPO 757F BCS713/1092 PRG-LTN-BRU 1952/2040 ATR42 REA547/508 2004 N90TH F900C TEB-LTN 2021 C560XL NJE078R RAK-LTN 2034 N486QS G4SP TN486QS HPN-LTN 2139 N901QS C750 TEB-SNN-LTN 2146 757F BCS730 LHR-LTN 2207 HS125 NJE582P AMS-LTN 2229 dept VP-BFF G2SP LTN-KAN 2246/2336 G-EZIA A319 F/V EZY9XP/4ZE CDG-LTN-CDG 2252 dept N737ER BBJ LTN-JED 2319 N46HA F2TH HKI46 CLT-YQX-LTN 2348 N421AL BD700 NBO-LTN Kind regards Chris & Christine Mellon e-mail (home): chris.mellon@gulfstream5.demon.co.uk e-mail (work): Chris_Mellon@mastercard.com From simon at simonb6.co.uk Sun Apr 3 05:50:27 2005 From: simon at simonb6.co.uk (Simon Brooke) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:19:55 2005 Subject: [CAE] INFO: Warning to smokers! Message-ID: <008401c53832$916bd290$0100a8c0@Desktop> Chaps I don't know how many of you are smokers, but you should be aware that from 14 April 2005, the American TSA is adding cigarette lighters to the list of items prohibited in the cabins of aircraft. Although this officially only applies to flights to, from and within the USA and Puerto Rico, I suspect that many airports outside the USA will apply the regulation across the board as that would make it easier to administer. Safety matches (a maximum of 4 books) are still OK, although I understand that they will eventually be banned as well. In the days when smoking was still allowed on aircraft, I read of one passenger who accidentally set himself on fire with a book of safety matches - he had two books in the pocket of his jacket and his seat-belt was fastened over his jacket. As he pulled one book out of his pocket, the striking surface slid across the heads of the matches in the other book, under pressure from the seat belt. The matches fired and set his jacket on fire! Silly old world, isn't it....................... Sorry if this has already been mentioned on CAE - I have a message delivery problem at the moment :-( Cheers Simon ===================================== Simon Brooke, Aldingbourne, nr. Chichester simon@simonb6.co.uk http://www.simonb6.co.uk/ ===================================== From smarsden at emirates.net.ae Sun Apr 3 06:54:48 2005 From: smarsden at emirates.net.ae (smarsden) Date: Sun Apr 3 06:55:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: TAM flights to Europe References: <191.3c5dbd19.2f805269@aol.com> Message-ID: <004701c5383b$8f5a4190$0201a8c0@simon8q73txobg> Hi As a matter of interest the ex Etihad A332 A6-EYY departed back to Brazil using a TAM callsign carrying its previous reg of PT-MVB. None stop Abu Dhabi to Sao Paulo. One heck of a long flight with a non stop flying time of 15hours 30 min. Regards Simon Abu Dhabi ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ: TAM flights to Europe > Hi > > noted overhead Tenerife on Friday 1st April were 2 TAM A330s heading > towards > Europe. > > 1 @ 10:20 & 1 @ 11:30. > > 1 I guess was TAM8096 inbound to Paris CdG PT-MVG any ideas on the other > one > or its possible destination? the TAM web site only has Paris CdG as a > route > to Europe so I guess they could have both been going there!! > > also noted on 26/3 @ 11:50 & 1/4 @ 12:40 heading towards the states > possibly > ex Morocco was what looked like an A340 that looked vagely similar in > colours to China Eastern any ideas as to Opr? I thought at first the > 26/3 was RAM > B744 CN-RGA but couldn't see a lump on either. > > MTIA > > Del From mike at mbaron.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 3 07:06:06 2005 From: mike at mbaron.freeserve.co.uk (Mike Baron) Date: Sun Apr 3 07:06:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: 03/04/05 am Ringway Message-ID: <001c01c5383d$231e5c80$2401a8c0@MIKE> A few noted/read off this morning: A7-AFO A330 QR 041 F-GRHR A319 AF 1668 N69154 B762 CO 5020 N1611B B763 Delta DL 064 TF-AME B747 Travel City Snowbird 131 G-CELG B733 Jet2 LS902 TS-IQA A321 Nouvelair 846 5B-DBH B738 Helios 560 G-EUPS A319 BA 2904 5B-DBU B738 ECA 832 D-AVRK BAe146 LH 8PP EI-CNV B732 Ryan Air FR 554 9H-AEH A319 Air Malta KM 138 9Y-JIL A340 BW 992 G-BPEE B757 BA Shuttle 2M G-OOBJ B757 First Choice 438D G-STRF B737 Astraeus AUE 522 G-OOAX A320 First Coice 501D AP-BGL B777 PK 717 Mike Baron Stockport From KVandermoere at pandora.be Sun Apr 3 07:08:12 2005 From: KVandermoere at pandora.be (Kristof Vandermoere) Date: Sun Apr 3 07:08:15 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Kortrijk/Wevelgem & Moorsele 02/04/05 Message-ID: <001001c5383d$6e8e30a0$6400a8c0@pipo> Hello, Visitors noted saterday afternoon at Kortrijk/Wevelgem (EBKT/KJK) : CS-DNY...Cessna 560XL Citation excel...Netjets Europe LX-DAD...Cessna T303 Crusader...Cidade nv (parked at Abelag/Sky Service) OO-AYA...Reims-Cessna F.150M...Noordzee Vliegclub vzw OO-CLS...MS.880B Rallye Club...private OO-HVB...Reims-Cessna F.152-II...Vliegclub Hoevenen PH-VTW...Piper PA.32R-301T Saratoga...private (photos availble on http://westwings-ebkt.fotopic.net/c387319_25.html) and visitors at the nearby Moorsele (EBMO): OO-ACR...Agusta-Bell 206A Jetranger...Alpha Air Company OO-DDF...Bell 206B Jetranger III...Paramount Heli Promotions OO-LYR...SNCAN/Stampe SV.4C...Flying Legends OO-PAS...Grumman American AA-5 Traveler...private OO-SVS...SNCAN/Stampe SV.4C...private OO-SVT...SNCAN/Stampe SV.4C...Flying Legends OO-TGM...de Havilland DH.82A Tiger Moth...Flying Legends OO-USN...Boeing-Stearman PT.17 Kaydet...Flying Legends OO-141...Stoddart Hamilton Glasair IIS-RG...private OO-924...Aviasud Mistral...private OO-D44...B&F Technik FK9 Mk3 Utility...Royal West Aviation Club vzw (photos availble on http://westwings-ga.fotopic.net/c183963_25.html) Regards, Kristof Vandermoere Belgium http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=4966 From k5083 at mistral.co.uk Sun Apr 3 07:18:53 2005 From: k5083 at mistral.co.uk (Dr. Colin J. Pratt-Hooson) Date: Sun Apr 3 07:19:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] [LOG] Prestwick 01/04/2005 07:04 - 08:02 Message-ID: <20050403111853.SPEI1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Arthur> EI-DAO - BOEING 737-8AS - RYANAIR - 33550 / 1366 EI-DAZ - BOEING 737-8AS - RYANAIR - 33561 / 1463 ########################################### Dr. Colin James Pratt-Hooson PhD, MSc, BSc ------------------------------------------- www3.mistral.co.uk/k5083/ - Hurricane hawkerhurricane.150m.com/index.htm - Photos shorehamphotos.150m.com/index.html - EGKA cph-studios.co.uk/ - My Photos ########################################### -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From k5083 at mistral.co.uk Sun Apr 3 07:24:22 2005 From: k5083 at mistral.co.uk (Dr. Colin J. Pratt-Hooson) Date: Sun Apr 3 07:24:26 2005 Subject: [CAE] [LOG] RAF Brize Norton 02/04/2005 Message-ID: <20050403112423.SXZV1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Arthur> N826K - D900EX - ALTEN CONSULTING LLC - 36 C-GBBB - GIII - Chartright Air Inc - 368 TF-ARG - B 747-243B - AIR ATLANTA - 22303/495 ########################################### Dr. Colin James Pratt-Hooson PhD, MSc, BSc ------------------------------------------- www3.mistral.co.uk/k5083/ - Hurricane hawkerhurricane.150m.com/index.htm - Photos shorehamphotos.150m.com/index.html - EGKA cph-studios.co.uk/ - My Photos ########################################### -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From DelBarrow at aol.com Sun Apr 3 07:38:10 2005 From: DelBarrow at aol.com (DelBarrow@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 07:38:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ:Paris CdG 1/4/05 - TAM flights Message-ID: <1f0.3926ca6b.2f812fa2@aol.com> Hi can anybody please confirm/supply serials for the 2 x TAM flights at Cdg on Friday 1/4/05. one was PT-MVG TAM8096 I believe the other was TAM8098 MTIA Del From philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 08:00:00 2005 From: philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk (Philip Longdon) Date: Sun Apr 3 08:00:43 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Route dedication: Delta 767-300s Message-ID: About a year ago, it was reported that some Delta 767s regularly seen on Trans-atlantic routes were being re-configured. One short term result at the time being that N171DN operated DL64/65 almost exclusively for a period. Although there is now a fair amount of variation again, I note that not only do certain a/c rarely see to visit MANchester, but the same ones rarely seem to crop on ACARS in the mornings I am monitoring. Can anyone advise whether there are different seating configurations or other reasons for individual a/c sticking to specific route groupings, so as to identify any that won't be normally seen in MAN in particular, or Europe in general? TIA, Phil From philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 08:00:00 2005 From: philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk (Philip Longdon) Date: Sun Apr 3 08:00:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Route dedication: Alitalia MD80s Message-ID: With the MXP-MAN route switching from A319s to MD80s, this seems a good time to review which a/c in this large fleet are twin-class for international routes, and which ones are single (Economy) class for Domestic (and occasional Charter?) use. My records show the International ones as being; I-DACQ/R/S/T/W/X/Y/Z I-DANM/P/V/W I-DATA/B/D/F/G/H/J-S/U I-DAVB/G/H/J/M/R (I-DAVI/K having been withdrawn) I-DAWA-J/L/M/O/P/Q/R/S/U Can anyone update/correct this list? TIA, Phil From k5083 at mistral.co.uk Sun Apr 3 08:15:25 2005 From: k5083 at mistral.co.uk (Dr. Colin J. Pratt-Hooson) Date: Sun Apr 3 08:15:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] [LOG] Nice 02/04/2005 - 16:35 - 18:10 Message-ID: <20050403121525.CTRJ5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@Arthur> VP-BEL - B 737-74T - MAGENTA AVIATION - 29139/189 VP-CSA - B 737-2W8 - SAMCO AVIATION - 22628/820 F-GHNS - ATR 42 - I-ATRJ - ATR 42-312 - ALITALIA EXPRESS - 57 G-CLAS - SHORTS 360-200 - BAC EXPRESS - SH.3635 I-DATM - MD 82 - ALITALIA - 53230/2106 F-GNLG - F 28-100 - BLUE LINE (LAND ROVER LOGOS) - 11363 I-DEAS - G V - SOC ALBA SPA - 593 F-GHQM - A 320-211 - AIR FRANCE - 278 F-GHQL - A 320-211 - AIR FRANCE - 239 HB-JZH - A 319-111 - EASYJET - 2230 D-AILY - A 319-114 - LUFTHANSA - 875 F-GHQH - A 320-211 - AIR FRANCE - 156 F-GHQR - A 320-211 - AIR FRANCE - 377 F-GHQB - A 320-211 - AIR FRANCE - 036 F-BJTH - SE 210-3 - PRESERVED - 124 ########################################### Dr. Colin James Pratt-Hooson PhD, MSc, BSc ------------------------------------------- www3.mistral.co.uk/k5083/ - Hurricane hawkerhurricane.150m.com/index.htm - Photos shorehamphotos.150m.com/index.html - EGKA cph-studios.co.uk/ - My Photos ########################################### -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From kevwatts141 at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 08:33:43 2005 From: kevwatts141 at ntlworld.com (kevwatts141) Date: Sun Apr 3 08:33:47 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Cologne/Bonn 02/04/05 Message-ID: <000701c53849$609d0b40$89280150@f1t5s2> Below is a full list of aircraft seen on a daytrip to Cologne courtesy of a Germanwings cheapie from Stansted. 10.10 - 20.00 hours D-ABAE B.737-800 Air-Berlin D-ABBH B.737-800 Air-Berlin D-ABBP B.737-800 Air-Berlin D-ABEI B.737-300 Lufthansa D-ABER B.737-300 Lufthansa D-ABIH B.737-500 Lufthansa D-ABIK B.737-500 Lufthansa D-ACHA CRJ200 Lufthansa Cityline D-ACJB CRJ100 Lufthansa Cityline D-ACLD CRJ100 Lufthansa Cityline D-ACLH CRJ100 Lufthansa Cityline D-ACPD CRJ700 Lufthansa Cityline D-ADIJ B.737-300 DBA D-AELH Fk.27F WDL D-AGEG B.737-300 DBA D-AGEL B.737-700 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGEQ B.737-700 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGER B.737-700 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGES B.737-700 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGET B.737-700 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AGPD Fokker 100 Germania D-AGPN Fokker 100 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AHLN B.737-500 Hapag-Lloyd Express D-AILL A.319 Germanwings D-AILN A.319 Germanwings D-AIMB A.330-200 Blue Wings** D-AIMC A.330-200 Blue Wings** D-AIPD A.320-200 Germanwings D-AIQR A.320-200 Germanwings D-AKNF A.319 Germanwings D-AKNG A.319 Germanwings D-AKNH A.319 Germanwings D-AKNI A.319 Germanwings D-AKNJ A.319 Germanwings D-AKNX A.320-200 Germanwings D-AKNY A.320-200 Germanwings D-AKNZ A.320-200 Germanwings D-AKUE CL.601-3R Challenge Air GmbH D-AQUA Bae146 Eurowings D-AVRL RJ85 Lufthansa Cityline D-AWUE Bae.146 WDL D-AXEL A.330-200 Blue Wings ** D-BACH DHC-8 Augsburg Airways D-BAKD Fk.27F WDL D-BCRR ATR-42 European Air Express D-BJJJ ATR-42 European Air Express EC-IVP ATR-42F Swiftair G-BMRA B.757F DHL Aviation Services G-EUPU A.319 British Airways G-EUPX A.319 British Airways G-EZJY B.737-700 easyJet G-IGOK B.737-300 easyJet HB-AFG ATR-72F Farnair Europe HB-AFK ATR-72F Farnair Europe N127UP A.300-600F UPS N140UP A.300-600F UPS N141UP A.300-600F UPS N145UP A.300-600F UPS N426UP B.757F UPS N427UP B.757F UPS N428UP B.757F UPS N604GC DC-10F Gemini Air Cargo OE-LCQ CRJ200 Tyrolean Airways OO-DLV A.300F European Air Transport / DHL OO-DLW A.300F European Air Transport / DHL OY-RJB CRJ200 Cimber Air (SAS flight) OY-SRG B.767-200F Star Air (Maersk Air colours) OY-USA B.757F Star Air / UPS PH-KVE Fk.50 KLM Cityhopper PH-KVG Fk.50 KLM Cityhopper TC-APR B.737-400 Pegasus Airlines TC-JLC A.320-200 THY TC-JLD A.320-200 THY TC-OAN A.321-200 Onur Air TC-OGJ A.320-200 AtlasJet TC-ONU A.300 Onur Air (no reg on l/hand side!) TF-BBE B.737-300F Bluebird Cargo TF-BBF B.737-300F Bluebird Cargo ** Stored behind trees, not visible from viewing terrace. Kev & Paul From peter.crudge at btopenworld.com Sun Apr 3 09:24:35 2005 From: peter.crudge at btopenworld.com (peter crudge) Date: Sun Apr 3 09:24:41 2005 Subject: [CAE] Password Message-ID: <00c401c53850$7bc5b1e0$ecaa2ad9@Peter> I don't remember my password, I cant remember ever setting one up ? Sincerely, Peter Crudge. From thomas.jaeger at ch-aviation.ch Sun Apr 3 09:43:59 2005 From: thomas.jaeger at ch-aviation.ch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_J=E4ger/CH-Aviation?=) Date: Sun Apr 3 09:44:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG/REQ: FDH, GRZ, VIE (March 30, April 1) Message-ID: <002b01c53853$33d2a110$dc07570a@PC151484119245> Good afternoon guys, was travelling to Graz and Vienna last week, here is the log: Friedrichshafen (FDH), March 30, 15.00-15.30: D-BLEJ 3L DH3 D-EIFN Piper Archer D-ESSC Cessna 172 D-ETLF Robin Graz (GRZ), March 30, 16.40-17.00: D-ANFB EW AT7 D-BLEJ 3L DH3 OE-LBQ NG 320 OE-LSE Z2 CR2 Vienna (VIE), April 1, 11.30-12.20: D-ABAI AB 734 D-AHFO AB 738 D-ACPL CL CR7 D-BLEJ 3L DH3 EC-ICS IB 320 EI-DEG EI 320 EI-DIU HG 320 F-GJVA AF 320 F-OGYC RJ 320 I-EXMU XM ER4 OE-ILF NG 733 OE-LAG OS 342 OE-LAL OS 343 OE-LAN OS 332 OE-LAZ NG 763 OE-LCG VO CR2 OE-LCK VO CR2 OE-LGC VO DH4 OE-LGI VO DH4 OE-LTJ VO DH3 OE-LTK VO DH3 OE-LVD VO 100 TC-APN PGT 738 UR-42372 7D YK2 VP-BWK SU 319 VP-CEA Hawker 800 Friedrichshafen (FDH), April 1, 13.40-14.10: D-BLEJ 3L DH3 OE-KAC Piper Arrow REQ: SAS MD-87 departing VIE as SK694 and LTU A320 on the ground at 12.20 (would guess OE-LTU?) Best regards Thomas From elaref at btopenworld.com Sun Apr 3 09:53:03 2005 From: elaref at btopenworld.com (eLaReF) Date: Sun Apr 3 09:53:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] Password In-Reply-To: <00c401c53850$7bc5b1e0$ecaa2ad9@Peter> References: <00c401c53850$7bc5b1e0$ecaa2ad9@Peter> Message-ID: <424FF53F.6000907@btopenworld.com> peter crudge wrote: >I don't remember my password, I cant remember ever setting one up ? >Sincerely, > >Peter Crudge. >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > > If you use the link at the bottom of this and every group message to 'amend your options' it will send you a reminder if you have forgotten!!! Lorence From md69 at md69.co.uk Sun Apr 3 09:54:51 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sun Apr 3 09:54:51 2005 Subject: [CAE] Password In-Reply-To: <00c401c53850$7bc5b1e0$ecaa2ad9@Peter> References: <00c401c53850$7bc5b1e0$ecaa2ad9@Peter> Message-ID: <424FF5AB.5010706@md69.co.uk> peter crudge wrote: >I don't remember my password, I cant remember ever setting one up ? >Sincerely, > >Peter Crudge. > Peter You didn't set one up - you get a system-generated one when you joined the list, which is sent ouot in the welcome message. You *did* keep the welcome message somewhere safely, didn't you... MD From DPerston at rim.com Sun Apr 3 10:25:21 2005 From: DPerston at rim.com (David Perston) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:25:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log Hamilton YHM 3/4 100 Message-ID: Took a trip down to Hamilton in the middle of a snow storm so not much seen. GJKF 727 KFA GKFH 727 KFA GTKF 727 KFA GMKF 727 KFA FCJP 727 CJA GCJQ 727 CJA FCJU 727 CJA Could any of the local guys help with the ABX DC9? David -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld --------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. From a.hilliard at btopenworld.com Sun Apr 3 10:27:31 2005 From: a.hilliard at btopenworld.com (Rotorblades) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:27:34 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT 1525 127.425 Message-ID: <008401c53859$4667a6d0$167a8351@main1> Hi All, Just called on 127.425 are VP-BVT GLF4 TVS530 routing to SITET (?) Alex From simon at sbrotherton.fsworld.co.uk Sun Apr 3 10:34:20 2005 From: simon at sbrotherton.fsworld.co.uk (Simon Brotherton) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:32:54 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 References: <001a01c53826$a7642cc0$2a0d8751@ltq8u> Message-ID: <00a301c5385a$38fc7b50$d3c287d9@simon> Hi All, > N371CD B.737 Does anyone have a c/n for this please ?. Best regards, Simon Brotherton "I know I Am, I'm Sure I Am, I'm Alty Till I Die !!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Shackleford" To: "Stansted" Cc: "Civil-Spotters2" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 > Noted at Stansted at 06.30: > > P4-AAA BD.700 > ZS-AOL G-1159 > N371CD B.737 > OE-IWP EMB.135 > A4O-OMN B.747 > SU-EWC Cessna 560 > N123M G-1159 > > Noted at 18.30: > > A6-EJB BD.700 > ZS-AOL G-1159 > OE-IWP EMB.135 > SU-EWC Cessna 560 > RA-85702 Tu-154 KrasAir (Anyone know where this parked, it seemed > to turn right at runway end and disappeared!) > > Andy S. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 From tony.8ehg at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 10:41:44 2005 From: tony.8ehg at ntlworld.com (Tony) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:42:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 References: <001a01c53826$a7642cc0$2a0d8751@ltq8u> <00a301c5385a$38fc7b50$d3c287d9@simon> Message-ID: <009601c5385b$43406440$36c66851@homepc> Hi there I think you'll find this should be N371BC a BBJ2. tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Brotherton" To: "Civil Aviation Enthusiasts" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 > Hi All, > > > N371CD B.737 > Does anyone have a c/n for this please ?. > > Best regards, > Simon Brotherton > > "I know I Am, I'm Sure I Am, I'm Alty Till I Die !!" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Shackleford" > To: "Stansted" > Cc: "Civil-Spotters2" > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:25 AM > Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 01.04.2005 > > > > Noted at Stansted at 06.30: > > > > P4-AAA BD.700 > > ZS-AOL G-1159 > > N371CD B.737 > > OE-IWP EMB.135 > > A4O-OMN B.747 > > SU-EWC Cessna 560 > > N123M G-1159 > > > > Noted at 18.30: > > > > A6-EJB BD.700 > > ZS-AOL G-1159 > > OE-IWP EMB.135 > > SU-EWC Cessna 560 > > RA-85702 Tu-154 KrasAir (Anyone know where this parked, it seemed > > to turn right at runway end and disappeared!) > > > > Andy S. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > > > To read on the web go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > > > To amend your options go to > > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > > > The homepage can be found at > > http://www.aviationlists.com > > > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From john.kappler at lineone.net Sun Apr 3 10:46:38 2005 From: john.kappler at lineone.net (John Kappler) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:46:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Stansted 3/4am Message-ID: <006c01c5385b$f15cd720$208a2e50@BlackWatchII> Hi All STN 06:00! - 07:30 N614FE MD11 D-ABAB B737-7 G-GSSB B74F D-ABAA B737-7 PH-XRA B737 D-AKNI A319 D-AILX A319 G-CELP B737 RA-85702 TU154 SU-EWC CIT RYanaiRs in order of departure! DAW/DHG on 9802/DCY/CSZ/O/DAJ/L/CSQ/J/A/DCS/CSB/DAG/CSM/DCX/CSP/CTA/DAK/DCP/D/K/CSV/DHA/DHB DHB on 753D & CNV on 202 arrived EZY 319's seen departing EZDC on 3869 & EZEG on 3881 From bern at dial.pipex.com Sun Apr 3 10:49:15 2005 From: bern at dial.pipex.com (BERNARD MARTIN) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:50:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re: [airfields] REQ: Earls Colne 28/03/05 References: <20050403084436.EPYQ1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@yourp6k1hfim6m> Message-ID: <000a01c5385c$6a205e20$d148bc3e@user0214709de7> The Harvard is G-BBHK Bernard Martin Homepage at http://www.bern.dial.pipex.com for link to DUXFORD inmates and other reports From ian at gifford747.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 11:09:12 2005 From: ian at gifford747.wanadoo.co.uk (ian gifford) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:09:13 2005 Subject: [CAE] 31/3/05 Leeds Bradford Message-ID: <000601c5385f$18c10a40$d6eb86d9@rosedale> Went on a daytrip from Newquay to Leeds on Air Southwest on the above date,the aim of the flight was to show us travel folk what leeds has to offer. Left Newquay on G-WOWC Dhc8 Air Southwest,noted CS-DHH CITATION before taking off. Arrived Bristol in fog only able to note the following. G-CBXN R22,G-BYAK 757 BY,G-OOAE A321 FCA. Left Bristol and landed in Leeds 52 minutes later,noted on arrival at approx 1020-1030 N601HW CHALLENGER,N800UK HS125,G-MAJG JS41 G-RJXH ERJ,G-BXWE FK100,TF-JXA MD82,PH-OFB FK100. Noted on departure between 1650-2000 (had a 2 and a half hour delay on return) G-OAKJ JS31,G-DRFC ATR42,EI-CNV 732,G-JEDR DHC8,G-RJXE,F ERJ'S,N771SC BE200 Plus the following Jet2 G-CELX,V,D,C,A 737's N911DN UH1 noted outside airport grounds on an helipad Over by Multiflight on the return I noted a Goldair LJ45 and a BE200 any help with id's. Return flight back on G-WOWC. Thats it folks a good trip and managed a bit of spotting aswell. Anyone thinking of using the service,staff brilliant great flight and leeds worth at least a daytrip. Ian. From LHRAviation at aol.com Sun Apr 3 11:24:51 2005 From: LHRAviation at aol.com (LHRAviation@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:24:54 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Stuttgart 25-03-2005 12-30 to 15-00 ish Message-ID: <198.3c0d407c.2f8164c3@aol.com> Hi all A few hours spent here found the following. This included a ramp tour. D-ABAD??????????? B.737????????? ????? BER D-ABEM?????????? B.737????????? ????? DLH D-ABER?????????? B.737?????????? ????? DLH D-ADIA??????? B.737????????? ????? BAG D-AHFC??????????? B.737????????? ????? HLF D-AHFR??????????? B.737????????? ????? HLF D-AHFV??????????? B.737????????? ????? HLF D-AHLN?????? B.737????????? ????? HLX D-AICG??????? A.320????????? ????? CFG D-AICH??????? A.320????????? ????? CFG D-AICK??????? A.320????????? ????? CFG D-AILF???????? A.319????????? ????? GWI D-AILL???????? A.319????????? ????? GWI D-AKNJ?????? A.319????????? ????? GWI D-ALTG?????? A.320????????? ????? LTU D-ANFI??????? ATR.72??????? ????? EWG D-AVRA?????????? BAe 146?????? ????? DLH D-BNNN?????????? ATR.42???????? ????? EWG D-BSSS?????????? ATR.42???????? ????? EWG D-BTTT??????? ATR.42??????? ????? EWG F-GRGJ?????? Emb.145??????????? RGI HB-JAX??????? Emb.145??????????? SWR I-EXMB??????? Emb.145??????????? SMX SX-BKG??????????? B.737????????? ????? OAL 5B-DBX?????? B.737????????? ????? ECP D-AFSG??????????? TU.154??????? ????? Cabin trainer (ex HA-LCB) biz D-ADNA??????A.319?????????? ????? 1053 D-ADND??????CL.604???????? ????? 5403 D-ADNE??????CL.604???????? ????? 5422 D-BKLI??????? Citation 750X?????????? 0219 D-BLDI??????? Citation 750X?????????? 0218 D-CDNY??????Learjet 60?????????? 160 D-CHDE??????Citation 560??????? 0031 D-CHZF?????? Citation 550??????? 0866 D-CMPI?????? Citation 670??????? 7055 D-ICGB??????? Piper PA-42?????? 5501007 D-ICSS??????? Citationjet????????? 0121 D-IDTH??????? Cessna 421C????????? 1062 D-IEAH Beech 90 LJ-1216 D-IEFD??????? Citationjet????????? 0049 D-IEIR???????? Citation 501??????? 0259 D-IFIS????????? Citationjet????????? 0442 D-IHJK Piper PA-31T 31T-8104057 D-IKAL??????? Citationjet 2??????? 0193 D-IKKY??????? MU.2?????????? ????? 420SA D-ILDL???????? Citationjet 2??????? 0167 D-ILGA Piper PA-31 31-1104014 D-ILIN????????? Beechcraft 200??????? BB-0545 D-ILLL???????? Citationjet????????? 0518 D-IMEL Beech 55 TE-0855 D-IMMD?????? Citationjet????????? 0211 D-ISTB??????? Beechcraft 90F??????? LA-227 D-IWID Beechcraft 90 LJ-1450 HB-VLF?????? BAe 125-800?????????? 258264 HB-VLG??????BAe 125-800?????????? 258265 light D-EABZ Cessna 152 79736 D-EACF Jodel DR.300 625 D-EAFT Cessna F.150L 0187 D-EAPJ Cessna F.150M 1262 D-EBOM Beech F.33A CE-1147 D-ECKA Beech 33V D-7194 D-ECPV Cessna F.172H 0288 D-EDIM Jodel DR.400 D-EDMR SOCATA TB-21TC 793 D-EDUP PA-28 D-EEBC Cessna F.150M 1270 D-EEEH SOCATA Rallye D-EEJF Piper PA-46 4608135 D-EEZJ Cessna 182P 61450 D-EFKS Mooney M.20K 25-1164 D-EFSR Piper PA-28 D-EFUI Cessna 172 1550 D-EGNA Cessna F.172RG 0432 D-EHCH Mooney M.20M 27-0077 D-EHEU Cessna 182S 81055 D-EHPA Piper PA-46 4622057 D-EHXN Rockwell Com 112A 209 D-EIFC Cessna FR.182 0002 D-EJPE Cessna 152 1577 D-EJTJ Piper PA-46 4608105 D-EJWP SOCATA TB-10 1100 D-EKHZ Cessna F.182 66466 D-EKSG Piper PA-28 D-ELAA Cessna F.182Q 0108 D-ELDW Cessna 150 D-ELGT Piper PA-34 D-ELRA Cessna T.206H 08316 D-EMLH Piper PA.28 D-EMRS Cessna F.152 1511 D-EMXS Cessna F.172 D-ENHM Cessna 182T 81092 D-ENJH Piaggio P.149 077 D-EOBO Cessna 172 0092 D-EOCB Cessna F.150 D-EPAA Piper PA-28 D-ERFC Piper PA-46 4636091 D-ERPH Cessna 172N 71171 D-ESAE Cessna 172 8118 D-ESDJ SOCATA TB-20 2029 D-ESGX Kat 100 D-ESHB RocKwell Com 114 14572 D-ETAF Cessna F.150 D-ETRV Cessna F.172 D-ETSE Beech K.35 D-6113 D-EWEB Cessna 206 D-EWWE DA.40 D-EYDS Extra D-GBRS Partenavia P.68 034 D-GBWR Piper PA-34 34-7670245 D-GEBD Piper PA-34 34-8207018 D-GISE Piper PA-34 34-7870193 D-GJET Piper PA-44 44-8107003 D-GMBK Piper PA-34 34-8233035 D-GOSR Piper PA-34 34-8133017 D-HAMR Robinson R.22 1168 D-HBBB Bo.117 7220 D-HBWA Eurocopter EC.155 6581 D-HGAS Robinson R.44 0864 D-HJHE Robinson R.22 1772 D-HMMD Bell 206B 04158 D-HOTT Bell 206L 51587 D-HUGO Bell 206B 04290 HB-ZCH Bell 430 49060 N27LP Mooney M20 25-0408 N84142 Lake Renegade 069 Preserved on terminal roof D-EDHS Dornier Do.27 0371 D-FOBY N/A Harvard 77-4176 G-AVHE Viscount (Nose only) 363 OK-LGL Orlikan L.60 SP-ANL AN.2 1G147-16 SP-SAW Mi Mil.2 529021124 Cheer's ========================== Stan Page LHRAviation@aol.com ========================== From paul.compton at telia.com Sun Apr 3 11:26:36 2005 From: paul.compton at telia.com (Paul Compton) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:26:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV Southend Message-ID: <42500B2C.9000707@telia.com> Hi Kev, and thanx! >A couple of people are asking,the BE9L OYJRO is using the callsign >HighFive,three letter code TRJ,company is Trans Euro Air. Further to your comments on the KA, I wanted to check this out myself. I found their URL: http://www.transeuroair.com/fleet.htm where we can check out 'Our Aifrcraft fleet at......', literally. Would you happen to know the ID of their Navajo? BR +paul+ From robert.belcher at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 11:35:48 2005 From: robert.belcher at ntlworld.com (Robert Belcher) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:36:23 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Farnborough 3/4 Message-ID: <003901c53862$d08f7460$02c06d51@robert> noted 1500-1600 CS-DFO C560XL IN 1532 HB-IAH DA900 IN 1528 N168HF 125 tag maintiance N200UP DA50 N511QS G5 N459CS CL601 N800PJ GALAXY VP-CJP CL601 IN 1547 G-CEGR BE200 IN 1530 Robert From globalexp1 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 11:36:48 2005 From: globalexp1 at yahoo.co.uk (philip taylor) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:36:47 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req: China Airlines B744 OTT Luton Message-ID: <20050403153648.68585.qmail@web25810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, Could anyone tell me the I.D. of a China Airlines B747-400 seen over Luton at 14.30 today 03/04/05.Possibly inbound to Manchester? Couldnt tell if it was a Pax or Cargo. Many thanks Phil Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From muckersgaff at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 11:45:06 2005 From: muckersgaff at ntlworld.com (Mark Lawley) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:45:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] log Manchester 3/04/05 Message-ID: <003d01c53864$1defd870$3d7a6151@adudxtqfk8koo1> spent about an hour and a half up at the airport this morning and noted the following .............. TS-IQA A.321 Nouvelair 9V-SVC B.777 Singapore A/L TF-ATX B.747F MASKargo A7-AFO A.330 Qatar A/W N673UW A.330 US Airways D-AVRK Bae146 Lufthansa AP-BFY B.747 PIA N69154 B.767 Continental A/L TF-ELY B.737 Excel A/W 5B-DBU B.737 Eurocypria 5B-DBH B.737 Helios OO-VLE FK50 VLM OO-VLE FK50 VLM 9H-AEH A.319 Air Malta 9Y-JIL A.340 BWIA West Indies PH-BXR B.737 KLM OK-XGV B.737 CSA Czech A/L N1611B B.767 Delta A/L well thats it for the next 3 and a half weeks , did a great search on Ebay a couple of weeks ago and managed to get myself a used pair of Alan Wickers shoes , what an excellent purchase !!!!!!!!! best wishes & happy spotting ............................. mark lawley // aka mucker !! From Cooldood37 at aol.com Sun Apr 3 11:53:38 2005 From: Cooldood37 at aol.com (Cooldood37@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:53:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] Off topic -Us carrier to visit Portsmouth 4-10Apr 05 Message-ID: <146.4218d1ec.2f816b82@aol.com> For those who collect mil as well as civil . USS Harry S Truman will be anchored at Stokes Bay near Portsmouth from 4-10 Apr 05 From keith at harris777.fsnet.co.uk Sun Apr 3 11:48:18 2005 From: keith at harris777.fsnet.co.uk (Keith Harris) Date: Sun Apr 3 11:55:27 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req: Tie up for PK-LEC References: <424FB6A1.3070108@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <024a01c53865$8d70cf00$730a4d51@mobile> Hi Stuart Aerodata Quantum Plus gives it as c/n LD-157, ex N6869Q and VH-TGB. PK-LEC was cancelled in 1989. Regards Keith Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McCarthy" To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: [CAE] Req: Tie up for PK-LEC > Hi all. > > Would someone be able to help with c/n and pid of Beech Queen Air > PK-LEC, I found reference to SAATAS, Indonesia, but nothing else. > > The wings are currently sitting in a yard at the rear of the Australian > National Aviation Museum, Moorabbin, Melbourne, Australia. > > Any help would be appriciated. > > > Stuart McCarthy > Perth > Oz > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 12:01:30 2005 From: flight707717 at yahoo.co.uk (JAMES PAVELEY) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:01:30 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: PRAGUE hotels Message-ID: <20050403160131.83431.qmail@web86902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi all Does anybody know if there are any airport hotels such as Ibis,Novehotel at Prague airport? Are there any which overlook the approach? Is it a good airport to spot at. How does it compare to Budpest in terms of regsitrations logged? Thanks for any information which anyone could give! James Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com Sun Apr 3 12:00:42 2005 From: ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com (Ian Brooks) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:02:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] Mov Manchester Message-ID: For those who would like a photo of the Malasian special scheme B747 (9M-MPD) it has just landed at Manchester and is due out 20.00 Ian From aallsopp at beeb.net Sun Apr 3 12:01:13 2005 From: aallsopp at beeb.net (Allan B. Allsopp) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:03:43 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: FedEx MD11 Message-ID: Hi Gang. Can anyone supply reg and callsign for FedEx MD11 Seen descending heading S/E for Stansted OTT Bedford at approx 16:15pm yesterday Sat 2nd Apr. Only got a glimpse through haze whilst out and about so no callsign etc. Thanks in anticipation. Keep up the great postings. Cheers and Wassail Allan BA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com Sun Apr 3 12:06:24 2005 From: ian_brooks at jakbat.plus.com (Ian Brooks) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:08:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log Manchester 3rd April 2005 Message-ID: One or two interesting things today TS-IQA A321 TF-ELY Excel B737-400 G-TTOI GB A320 HA-LKB Travel Service B737 F-GUFD Air France EMB145 9M-MPD Special scheme Ian From paul.clements13 at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 12:37:51 2005 From: paul.clements13 at ntlworld.com (paul.clements13) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:37:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] RE: passwords In-Reply-To: <20050403152551.JNUB1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@nj1.fxsonet.com> Message-ID: <000401c5386b$7e6bfe70$d9f50750@MESHPROFILE> We have all recently received a password reminder from the aviation list MD's So check yer inbox over the last few days Regards paul From Andy.Shackleford at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 09:05:21 2005 From: Andy.Shackleford at btinternet.com (Andy Shackleford) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:50:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: M25 trip Message-ID: <000201c5386c$df3764a0$951e8751@ltq8u> Sun out, Saturday off from shopping, decorating etc: Stansted 08.00: OE-LOR A.320 A6-EJB BD.700 SU-EWC Cessna 560 OE-IWP EMB.135 ZS-AOL G-1159 Luton 09.00: OO-DPO B.757 OO-DPB B.757 N254SJ B.737 LX-GDC CL.601 P4-MES B.767 D-AUKE CL.601 N588GS Falcon 900 VP-BFF G-1159 N818BA G-1159 N598MT CL.601 N737ER B.737 CS-DRA DH.125 CS-DRB DH.125 CS-DHM Cessna 550 EC-HJU CV-440 CS-DHK Cessna 550 Denham 10.00: ZS-MBI A/C 114 N147GT SR.22 N1298C SR.22 N4698W A/C 112 G-FEBE Cessna 340 N147CD SR.22 N91ME TB.10 N853CD SR.22 N715BC Beech 36 N154DJ Cessna 340 N495AF PA-28 N29566 PA-28 G-GOTC PA-34 N674BW AA-5 N90SA Cessna 172 Fair Oaks 11.00: G-JANN PA-34 N587PB Beech 90 N61MF M.20 N7214Y Beech 55 G-ERAD Beech 90 G-CBGF PA-31 Farnborough 11.45: VP-BLS PC-12 N800PJ IAI 1126 N459CS CL.601 VP-CBX G-1159 P4-VVP EMB.135 Blackbushe 12.15: N525AL Cessna 525 D-EEAW DA.40 G-BWDT PA-34 D-EAWW PA-28 N1407J A/C 114 N38273 PA-28 N51AH PA-28 G-TCOM PA-30 N5839P PA-24 No ZS- Beech 55 - whole point of trip! - has it left? or simply out for day? White Waltham 13.00: HA-YAP Yak-18T HA-YAU Yak-18T G-YAKT Yak-52 "66" Yak-52 (Someone recently identified this?) G-YAKH Yak-52 N629RS PA-44 HA-YAH Yak-18T G-XYAK Yak-52 329601 L-18 G-YAKB Yak-52 Heathrow (inbounds only) 13.45-1600 VP-BUE B.767 OO-DIB A.300 EC-JEJ A.321 VP-BZL B.737 HL7434 B.747 Stansted 18.00: SU-EWC Cessna 560 EC-INS Learjet Andy S. From FloridianCeltic at aol.com Sun Apr 3 13:00:50 2005 From: FloridianCeltic at aol.com (FloridianCeltic@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:00:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG : STANSTED - LUTON - HEATHROW - GATWICK 3/4/05 Message-ID: <1e6.38c35916.2f817b42@aol.com> Hi All Scudsaint and I on another whirlwind adventure around the London airports produced the following numbers STANSTED 06.30 - 07.45 Ryanair : CSA,CSB,CSD,CSJ,CSP,CSV,CTA,DAG,DAK,DAX,DCD,DCK,DCP, DCS,DCX,DHA,DHB,DHD + B732 EI-CNV Easyjet(A319s only) : G-EZDC & EZEG SU-EWC CIT XL...outside Harrods EC-INS LJ 55..in trees N614FE MD11F FED EX G-GSSB B747 GLOBAL SUPPLY PH-XRA B737 TRANSAVIA D-ABAA B737 AIR BERLIN D-ABAB B737 AIR BERLIN D-AKNI A319 GERMANWINGS D-AILX A319 GERMANWINGS RA85702 TU154M KRAS AIR..arrived 07.30 from Tenerife for a fuel stop. Was due to depart around 08.30 LUTON 09.20 - 10.00 Very quiet with Hanagr 125 closed and VP-BLD JSR on its on in the N/W corner. Following others were seen N254SJ BBJ N486QS GULF 4 CS-DMA HAWKER 400XP P4-MES B767 CS-DKA GULF 4 CS-DNZ CIT XL CS-DHM CIT BRAVO N901QS CIT X CS-DNX HAWKER 800XP OO-DPB B757 DHL CS-DHH CIT BRAVO EC-HJU CV580 DHL N818BA GULF 4 N598MT CL604 CS-DKB GULF 5 OY-NPE METRO N90TH F900C LX-GDC CL601 N733EY CL601 HEATHROW 10.45 - 13.00 ZS-SXD A343 S AFRICAN HB-IAX F2000 arrived at 10.46 as Rabbit 171. Departed at 11.59 CS-DNV HAWKER 800XP dep 10.59 as NJE??? A7-AEB A330 QATAR VP-BZL BBJ2 outside BMI 9H-AEI A320 AIR MALTA N460QS GULF 4 departed at 11.10 SE-DOT B736 SAS VP-BWN A321 AEROFLOT G-DBCE A319 BMI D-ACPI CRJ-700 LUFTHANSA...my last one..:-)) N198UA B744 UNITED HZ-AFA1 MD-11 departed 12.57 as SAUDI 008 GATWICK 14.00 - 16.00 OY-MLY B737 MAERSK AIR A6-EMX B777 EMIRATES PH-AHQ B767 HOLLAND EXEL opf FCA N359AN B767 AMERICAN HB-JVC FK100 HELVETIC LY-AZY B737 LITHUANIAN OE-LNM B737 LAUDA AIR N450BF GULF 4 departed 15.06 G-EZIB A319 EASYJET ( + G-EZEW,EZEK,EZSM,EZEO,EZEV, EJAR,EZEJ) G-EUPS A319 BRITISH A/W operating Shuttle 2939 HB-JZI A319 EASYJET SWISS...my last one Not A bad day with 13 in the book All the best Darren Matthews(Credit also to Neil Wickens) From Smithoag at aol.com Sun Apr 3 13:00:58 2005 From: Smithoag at aol.com (Smithoag@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:00:58 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Earls Colne 28/03/05 Message-ID: <8a.2428017c.2f817b4a@aol.com> Hi Duane 'twas I that made the request re the Harvard at Earl's Colne & have since been informed that it's civvie reg is G-BBHK hope this helps Colin Oxfordshire Aviation Group www.communigate.co.uk/oxford/oag From User727730 at aol.com Sun Apr 3 13:20:59 2005 From: User727730 at aol.com (User727730@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:21:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Manchester 03Apr05 Message-ID: <157.4de603d8.2f817ffb@aol.com> Could someone please confirm the reg of the China Airlines 744F in Manchester today, also if possible its departure time. Many thanks Graham Mildenhall From Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 3 12:27:13 2005 From: Steven.Barnes at barnes0.demon.co.uk (Steve Barnes) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:23:51 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV : Newcastle (NCL/EGNT) 03-04-05 pm Message-ID: <001301c5386a$1565a940$fe13edc1@h3e3c7> G-DRFC Atr-42 - dep LZ-BHD A.320 a/w, no titles D-AGPN Fk.100, HLX C-FRAV A.330, MYT005P EI-CSW B.738 D-ACHD CL.600RJ F-GRZB CRJ.700 G-CDEB S.2000 OY-BTZ PA-31 - survey work before landing G-VUEA C.500 HHI8575 landed at 17.15 (that'll teach me to give up to easily, Ian!) - planned as HB-JIB MD-90, can anybody confirm? Regards, Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.6 - Release Date: 30/03/05 From dickhawker at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 13:36:53 2005 From: dickhawker at hotmail.com (dick hawker) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:37:01 2005 Subject: [CAE] LO & REQ LONDON CITY, SOUTHEND, CLACTON, WORMINGFORD, Message-ID: Colin The answer to some of your Southend queries - The 707 over by the Belfast is registered as N2NF, but actually still carries EL-AKJ. N601AR is correct and is an Aerostar 601. No details yet showing on the US Register. N210C_ is N210CP, Ce 210M c/n 62034 G-GUS_ is G-GUSS The all white DC-9 is EC-GQZ, ex Spanair 9L-LDP? is actually 9L-LDA Hope this helps Dick From md69 at md69.co.uk Sun Apr 3 13:38:26 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:38:14 2005 Subject: [CAE] Off topic -Us carrier to visit Portsmouth 4-10Apr 05 In-Reply-To: <146.4218d1ec.2f816b82@aol.com> References: <146.4218d1ec.2f816b82@aol.com> Message-ID: <42502A12.4080105@md69.co.uk> Cooldood37@aol.com wrote: >For those who collect mil as well as civil . USS Harry S Truman will be >anchored at Stokes Bay near Portsmouth from 4-10 Apr 05 > And for those who collect mil as well as civil, I'm sure they've received a similar announcement on the MIL list. Please stick to civil stuff only here, please... MD From tucano135 at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 13:41:15 2005 From: tucano135 at ntlworld.com (adrian.hairsine) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:39:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req Teeside 02-04-05 Message-ID: <002c01c53874$56d21ee0$2fad0450@userd931ffc28a> Hi All Can anyone tell me the reg of the White Do-328 seen last night at Teeside Durham Airport it landed appx 19-50. many thanks Ade (York) From Smithoag at aol.com Sun Apr 3 13:53:41 2005 From: Smithoag at aol.com (Smithoag@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:53:43 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Earls Colne 28/03/05 Message-ID: <1f6.6e78429.2f8187a5@aol.com> not a problem Duane, thinking about it,I think the info did come direct happy spotting,mate Colin From philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 13:56:00 2005 From: philip at thelongdons.wanadoo.co.uk (Philip Longdon) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:55:57 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Manchester 03Apr05 In-Reply-To: <157.4de603d8.2f817ffb@aol.com> Message-ID: I've got it on ACARS as '703, registering as CI256 (the outbound flight number) around 1730BST. > *Subject:* [CAE] REQ: Manchester 03Apr05 > *From:* User727730@aol.com > *Date:* Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:20:59 EDT > > Could someone please confirm the reg of the China Airlines 744F in > Manchester today, also if possible its departure time. > > Many thanks > Graham Mildenhall > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > TIA, Phil From hutchair at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 13:58:57 2005 From: hutchair at btinternet.com (anthony hutchings) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:59:04 2005 Subject: [CAE] Off topic -Us carrier to visit Portsmouth 4-10Apr 05 References: <146.4218d1ec.2f816b82@aol.com> <42502A12.4080105@md69.co.uk> Message-ID: <000a01c53876$cf3e9a50$38902bd9@ANTHONY> Not everyone is on mil spotters - me included and as I may be going to that area it was of interest Perhaps we should have a group which covers - if you are going near ... Now unsubscribing after all these years as its all going haywire - hope you have all enjoyed my reports from the south west which included mil at times Anthony Hutchings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Dennett" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Off topic -Us carrier to visit Portsmouth 4-10Apr 05 > Cooldood37@aol.com wrote: > >>For those who collect mil as well as civil . USS Harry S Truman will be >>anchored at Stokes Bay near Portsmouth from 4-10 Apr 05 >> > And for those who collect mil as well as civil, I'm sure they've received > a similar announcement on the MIL list. Please stick to civil stuff only > here, please... > > MD > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From md69 at md69.co.uk Sun Apr 3 14:16:45 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:16:22 2005 Subject: [CAE] Off topic -Us carrier to visit Portsmouth 4-10Apr 05 In-Reply-To: <000a01c53876$cf3e9a50$38902bd9@ANTHONY> References: <146.4218d1ec.2f816b82@aol.com> <42502A12.4080105@md69.co.uk> <000a01c53876$cf3e9a50$38902bd9@ANTHONY> Message-ID: <4250330D.2050302@md69.co.uk> anthony hutchings wrote: > Not everyone is on mil spotters - me included and as I may be going > to that area it was of interest > > Perhaps we should have a group which covers - if you are going near ... > > Now unsubscribing after all these years as its all going haywire - > > hope you have all enjoyed my reports from the south west which > included mil at times > > Anthony Hutchings Ant I *am* on MSF but only for read on the web, and if I hadn't seen it on another group, I wouldn't have known either. I also don't have a problem with the odd mil content in a log from anybody, so long as the majority of the log is civil. The old Mach III list used to allow mil postings at civil airfields, but the FAQ's for this list specifically state that mil is not allowed on this list. I'm sorry you felt the need to unsub, but it's your decision. MD From philcoulbeck at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 14:23:01 2005 From: philcoulbeck at hotmail.com (Phil Coulbeck) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:23:04 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT REQ Message-ID: Hello All, Can anyone supply me with a website address for ACARS overflights that would enable me to check such flights for myself. This will avoid me putting them on the OTT lists and giving you hard working people extra work. Many thanks for your help and all your hard work. Regards Phil From nairnradar at tesco.net Sun Apr 3 14:08:50 2005 From: nairnradar at tesco.net (Stephen Lane) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:35:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:Inverness;SUN:03.04.2005 Message-ID: <001701c5387b$a6360c60$9865fea9@Stephen> No Visitors! BMA 692/3 G-BXWE EZY 191/2 G-EZYP EZY 765/6 G-EZEJ Stephen All outgoing messages scanned by Norton From nlspot2005 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 14:37:44 2005 From: nlspot2005 at yahoo.com (Alexander Schelbergen) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:37:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: EHAM 3-4-2005. Message-ID: <20050403183744.3682.qmail@web30309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Schiphol 3-4-2005. EP-IBL A310 Iran Air G-EZEG A319 Easyjet G-EZIB A319 Easyjet G-EZSM A319 Easyjet OO-TNC 737-300F Tnt G-THOF 737-300 Thomson Fly F-RADC A310 French Airforce YL-BBE 737-500 Air Baltic OE-LDC A319 Austrian Airlines 9H-AEM A319 Air Malta RA-85767 Tu154 Pulkovo CS-TPA F100 Portugalia EC-IVG A320 Spannair G-CELJ 737-300 Jet 2 OK-TVC 737-800 Travel Service HB-IJZ A320 N/t VP-BWL A319 Aeroflot OO-SKV Cit560 EI-DFC F100 Eujet EI-DEK A320 Aer Lingus N604HC Cl604 D-AVRO Bae146 Lufthansa Regional D-BMMM Atr42 Lufthansa Regional B2055 777 China Southern Mvg. 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Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest From muc_spotter at gmx.de Sun Apr 3 14:40:31 2005 From: muc_spotter at gmx.de (Phil MUC) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:40:21 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCnchen_01=2E_Apr_2005?= Message-ID: <4250389F.3010604@gmx.de> Hello all, just a short visit in the evening: D-ABAL BOEING 737 46J 28334 Air Berlin D-AGPQ FOKKER 100 11338 Germania D-AGPS FOKKER 100 11399 Germania D-ALPE AIRBUS A330 223 469 LTU International Airways D-IBIT CESSNA CITATIONJET 525 525-0393 Triple Alpha Avanti Aviation Aachen GmbH EC-FZE BAE 146 200QT E2105 Pan Air EI-DBW BOEING 767 201ER 23899 Transaero Airlines F-GUEA EMBRAER EMB145 MP 145342 Air France Express G-GEDY DASSAULT FALCON 2000 2000 208 Victoria Aviation Ltd OE-LVB FOKKER 100 11502 Austrian Arrows OO-DLE AIRBUS A300 B4-203F 236 DHL Worldwide Express Cheers, Phil MUC EDDM From muc_spotter at gmx.de Sun Apr 3 14:40:45 2005 From: muc_spotter at gmx.de (Phil MUC) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:40:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCnchen_22=2E03=2E2005?= Message-ID: <425038AD.6000104@gmx.de> Seen on arrival from Amsterdam at 15:30 A6-EYB AIRBUS A330 223 259 Etihad Airways CS-DKA GULFSTREAM 4 IVSP 1480 NTA - NetJets Transportes Aereos D-AJAG CANADAIR CHALLENGER 604 604 5528 Deutsche Telekom AG N67TM GULFSTREAM 4 IVSP 1409 EMC Corp N148M DASSAULT FALCON 50EX 50EX 270 Motorola Inc N324B CANADAIR CHALLENGER 601 601-3A 5069 Conseco Inc N451CS GULFSTREAM 5 V 570 Avjet Corp Phil MUC EDDM From muc_spotter at gmx.de Sun Apr 3 14:41:18 2005 From: muc_spotter at gmx.de (Phil MUC) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:41:09 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Amsterdam 22.03.2005 Message-ID: <425038CE.1020001@gmx.de> Hello all, we've had 3 hrs transit in Amsterdam (11:00 - 14:00). I spotted from the D gates, as usual no hassles and a nice log: 4X-AXL BOEING 747 245F SCD 22150 EL AL 5B-DBC AIRBUS A320 231 0295 Cyprus Airways 9M-MPC BOEING 747 4H6 25700 Malaysia Airlines 9V-SFN BOEING 747 412F SCD 32899 Singapore Airlines Cargo 9V-SVN BOEING 777 212ER 30873 Singapore Airlines B-16463 BOEING 747 45E SCD 27174 EVA Air B-18275 BOEING 747 409 24312 China Airlines CN-RMV BOEING 737 5B6 25317 Royal Air Maroc CN-RNR BOEING 737NG 7B6 28986 Royal Air Maroc D-ACRJ CANADAIR REGIONAL JET 200ER 7864 Lufthansa Regional EC-HTD AIRBUS A320 214 1550 Iberia EI-DEC AIRBUS A320 214 2217 Aer Lingus EP-IBC AIRBUS A300 B4-605R 632 Iran Air F-GHXM BOEING 737 53C 24788 Air France F-GRXA AIRBUS A319 111 1640 Air France G-BWWT DORNIER 328 100 3022 Scot Airways G-EUPU AIRBUS A319 131 1384 British Airways G-EZJA BOEING 737NG 73V 30235 Easyjet G-EZJL BOEING 737NG 73V 30247 Easyjet G-EZYS BOEING 737 33V 29342 Easyjet G-GFFF BOEING 737 53A 24754 British Airways / EuroGatwick G-IGOS BOEING 737 3L9 27336 Easyjet G-IGOU BOEING 737 3L9 27337 Easyjet HA-LOA BOEING 737NG 7Q8 28254 MALEV HB-IZO SAAB 2000 029 Swiss I-DAWL DOUGLAS DC- 9 82 49204 Alitalia I-DAWQ DOUGLAS DC- 9 82 49207 Alitalia JY-AUA BOEING 747 230B SCD 22670 Air Universal N180DN BOEING 767 332ER 25985 Delta Air Lines N221NW DOUGLAS DC-10 30 46579 Northwest Airlines N230NW DOUGLAS DC-10 30 46552 Northwest Airlines N237NW DOUGLAS DC-10 30 47844 Northwest Airlines N401JR DOUGLAS DC-10 30F 46590 DAS Air Cargo N645US BOEING 767 201ER 23897 US Airways N805NW AIRBUS A330 323X 552 Northwest Airlines OE-LKB DORNIER 328 110 3036 Air Alps Aviation OH-LXD AIRBUS A320 214 1588 Finnair OO-VAS BOEING 737NG 86Q WL 30285 TUI Airlines Belgium OY-MRK BOEING 737NG 7L9 28012 Maersk Air P4-FAS BOEING 757 2G5 29489 Air Astana PH-BDU BOEING 737 406 24857 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BDY BOEING 737 406 24959 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BFG BOEING 747 406 24517 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BFP BOEING 747 406 SCD 26374 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Asia PH-BQA BOEING 777 206ER 33711 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BQB BOEING 777 206ER 33712 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BQD BOEING 777 206ER 33713 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BQF BOEING 777 206ER 29398 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BQG BOEING 777 206ER 32704 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BTA BOEING 737 406 25412 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BTH BOEING 737 306 28719 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXD BOEING 737NG 8K2 29134 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXH BOEING 737NG 8K2 29597 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXP BOEING 737NG 9K2 29600 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXR BOEING 737NG 9K2 29601 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-BXT BOEING 737NG 9K2 32944 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-HZK BOEING 737NG 8K2 30390 Transavia Airlines PH-HZV BOEING 737NG 8K2 30650 Transavia Airlines PH-HZY BOEING 737NG 8K2 30646 Transavia Airlines PH-KCF DOUGLAS MD-11 11 48560 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KCG DOUGLAS MD-11 11 48561 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KCK DOUGLAS MD-11 11 48564 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-KLE FOKKER 100 11270 KLM Cityhopper PH-KLI FOKKER 100 11273 KLM Cityhopper PH-KVD FOKKER 50 50 20197 KLM Cityhopper PH-KVG FOKKER 50 50 20211 KLM Cityhopper PH-LXK FOKKER 50 50 20271 KLM Cityhopper PH-MCG BOEING 767 31AER 24428 Martinair PH-MCI BOEING 767 31AER 25312 Martinair PH-MCP DOUGLAS MD-11 11F(CF) 48616 Martinair PH-MCS DOUGLAS MD-11 11F(CF) 48618 Martinair PH-MCW DOUGLAS MD-11 11CF 48788 Martinair PH-XRB BOEING 737NG 7K2 28256 Transavia Airlines PH-XRE BOEING 737NG 7K2 30668 Basiq Air PH-XRW BOEING 737NG 7K2 33465 Transavia Airlines PH-XRX BOEING 737NG 7K2 33464 Transavia Airlines PZ-TCM BOEING 747 306 SCD 23508 Surinam Airways SX-BKM BOEING 737 4Q8 24709 Olympic Airlines TC-JFC BOEING 737NG 8F2 29765 Turkish Airlines TC-OAF AIRBUS A321 231 0668 Onur Air TF-FIP BOEING 757 208 30423 Icelandair TS-IOM BOEING 737NG 6H3 29498 Tunisair VP-BDO AIRBUS A319 111 2091 Aeroflot Russian Airlines Phil MUC EDDM From geedubyabee at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 14:41:34 2005 From: geedubyabee at hotmail.com (Geoff Blackmun) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:41:31 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req:Gatwick 02-04-205 In-Reply-To: <000001c537dd$d71ae010$0100a8c0@fh> Message-ID: Hi Frank, The Nationwide was ZS-PBI,The Zimbabwe Z-WPE,and I also would like to know the UAA. Hope this helps, Geoff >From: "Frank Herrington" >To: >Subject: [CAE] Req:Gatwick 02-04-205 >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 00:43:58 +0100 > >Hi I am sorting out my log will post tomorrow AM, but does anyone know >:- > >1) The Nationwide >2) The Air Zimbabwe >3) The United Arab Emirates in front of the Nationwide > >Many thanks >Frank >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at >http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From muc_spotter at gmx.de Sun Apr 3 14:44:26 2005 From: muc_spotter at gmx.de (Phil MUC) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:44:13 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Cape Town 22.03.2005 Message-ID: <4250398A.7080004@gmx.de> seen at approx. 0:30 in the morning prior to boarding our flight to Amsterdam: D-ALPA AIRBUS A330 223 403 LTU International Airways PH-BQI BOEING 777 206ER 33714 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ZS-OBN BOEING 727 232(A)(F) 20637 Airworld ZS-OTN EMBRAER EMB135 LR 145491 South African Airlink ZS-SIO BOEING 737 236(A) 21792 South African Airways + some more SAA, Nationwide etc. aircraft parked in the dark at the domstic terminal. Phil MUC EDDM From ianwilson at wanadoo.nl Sun Apr 3 14:45:34 2005 From: ianwilson at wanadoo.nl (Ian Wilson) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:45:36 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOGS: Woensdrecht The Netherlands 2-4-2005 Message-ID: <043801c5387d$51fe3990$9600000a@MASTERPC> Quick visit saw N1406A Fokker 100 in full AA c/s without titles ex Jetsgo c/n 11359 (was the reg C-GKZE ever painted on this aircraft cancelled from the Canadian reg 31//1/05) G-BVJD all white ex BMI c/n 11503 confirmed sighting plus G-BVJC c/n 11497( needs confirming all white reg NOT read off) SE-DGI and N800DH F28s plus TN-ABZ F27 in a poor state. Proto Fokker 100 wfu plus an ex KLU F27 fuselage. Hope this helps someone during their visits thru Holland. Ian From markgerrard at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 14:52:40 2005 From: markgerrard at comcast.net (Mark Gerrard) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:52:42 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT REQ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42503B78.6040604@comcast.net> Phil, Try http://www.antonakis.co.uk/acars.php?page=request Mark Phil Coulbeck wrote: >Hello All, > >Can anyone supply me with a website address for ACARS overflights that would enable me to check such flights for myself. This will avoid me putting them on the OTT lists and giving you hard working people extra work. > >Many thanks for your help and all your hard work. > >Regards > >Phil >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at >http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > From philcoulbeck at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 14:54:26 2005 From: philcoulbeck at hotmail.com (Phil Coulbeck) Date: Sun Apr 3 14:54:28 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT REQ Message-ID: Hi, To all those who responded to my request for ACARS website. Many thanks. I now have quite a few to choose from. Regards Phil From jimbrookbank at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 15:05:41 2005 From: jimbrookbank at hotmail.com (Jim Brookbank) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:05:38 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers In-Reply-To: <001b01c537ba$62769330$a58e6ad5@Neil> Message-ID: Good point Neil. A while back there was a tale in the papers in the UK about a couple who had booked on-line to go to Sydney. They went to Heathrow and (apparently) thought nothing of the fact that they were booked on an Air Canada flight. They started to get suspicious when they changed planes in Halifax, Nova Scotia onto a small twin-prop (Dash8 I suspect). I wonder whether they enjoyed their holiday in Sydney, Nova Scotia?? Regards Jim >From: "Neil Stephenson" >To: >Subject: [CAE] Re:- Codes in Headers >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:30:08 +0100 > >Hi > >I'm afraid I have to go with Geoff. > >For all those who don't know where ORD is just remember if you ask for a >flight home to say Manchester, you might not end up where you think. If you >are thinking of going to Manchester here are directions from the North. > >Take Interstate 93 South to Interstate 293 South/Route 101 East to Exit 2 >(Brown Ave.). At the bottom of the ramp take a right and follow Brown Ave. >for approximately 1.4 miles. Follow airport signs. > >I'm told it's quite nice in summer > >Neil Stephenson >St. Helens Rugby League >"It's just like watching Brazil" > > > > >_______________________________________________ >CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > >To read on the web go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > >and click 'CAE Archives' > >To amend your options go to >http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > >The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > >The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links From fherring at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 15:06:48 2005 From: fherring at btinternet.com (Frank Herrington) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:06:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG:02 April 2005 LGW - London Gatwick Message-ID: <001401c53880$48fa26d0$0100a8c0@fh> Log for Sat 02 April - All from the Crash Gate My thanks go to Aviatek@NEMA ( Pete ) for 3 REQ's previously. Monarchs:G-OZBF,G-MONJ,G-EOMA,G-MOND,G-MAJS,G-MONS,G-MONK,G-MARA,G-SMAN First Choice:G-CPEP,G-OOBK,G-CPEU,G-OOBC,G-OOBF,G-OOAF,G-OOBI Britannia:G-OBYJ,G-OBYB,G-BYAB,G-OBYI,G-BYAD,G-OBYG,G-BYAY Virgin: G-VGAL,G-VROS,G-VROM,G-VLIP,G-VROY,G-VGAL MyTravel:G-MDBD,G-FCLC,G-OMYT,G-JALC,G-SSAS FlyBe:G-JEBG,G-JEBA(In Air France c/s),G-JEDK Excel:G-XLAF,G-VKNG,G-XLAB,TF-ARK,TF-ELY,TF-ATU,G-XLAA Astreus:G-OPJB,G-OAVB Thomas Cook:G-OJMC,G-FCLH,G-JMAA,G-BXKB,G-JMCF,G-FCLA Jet2: G-CELF,G-CELJ Ryanair:EI-CJC,EI-CNX,EI-CNW Maersk:OY-MLH,OY-API Continental:N57016,N58101,N78017,N78003 U.S.Airways:N671UW,N672UW Delta:N152DL,N177DN,N1603,N863DA Northwest:N236NW,N802NW, AA:N39365,N782AN,N359AA,N776AN HS-VAN Phuket Air G-FJEA Fly-Jet D-AKNH Germanwings LZ-BOM Bulgaria air EC-IPS Air Plus TS-INB Nouvelair 5B-DBH Helios ES-ABH Estonian 5B-DBU Euro Air Cypria S5-AAH Adria EI-DEY Meridiana UR-GAK Ukraine 9H-ABT Air Malta LY-AZY Lithuanian EI-DDY Trans-Aero TC-MSB Biz SE-RBF Novair A7-ACD Qatar TS-ING Afriqiyah A6-EMW UAE C-GZMM Zoom LZ-HMH Hemus ( Tu154) A6-EYC Etihad G-WOWB Air Southwest A6-EMU UAE 9H-AEL Air Malta CS-TTB TAP G-BDXJ Air Atlanta Europe LZ-HMI Balkan Holidays Air ( Tu154 ) G-BWDA Aurigny G-BXTN Aurigny LY-AGZ Lithuanian CS-TJG TAP OK-CGH CSA OE-LNK Lauda YL-BBG Air Baltic G-ZAPU Titan CS-DFM Biz 5Y-VIP African Safari SX-BKM Olympic LN-RRZ SAS PH-AHQ Dutch Carribean Exel ZS-PBI Nationwide ( was in all day ) Z-WPE Air Zimbabwe ( was there all day ) A6-ESH UAE Govt ( UAE flag on the tail - Red stripe down the side ) I was just about to go - but heard Karthargo 6860 call. So decided to stay - TS-IEE Karthago From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 15:28:47 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:30:13 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT B747 routing Midhurst - Hemel - Pole Hill 18.35 3/4/05 Message-ID: <1c8.25f16ea6.2f819def@aol.com> Possibly a long shot, but was just wondering if anyone got a flight number for the above - I ask because its not that usual to see a 747 taking this routing. I saw it from the Watford area at 18.35. Cheers Dave O From Daveu at aol.com Sun Apr 3 15:33:22 2005 From: Daveu at aol.com (Daveu@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:33:25 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ Manchester today 3rd Message-ID: <199.3c49ae65.2f819f02@aol.com> Anybody know the registration of Alitalia 261 which departed this afternoon. Thanks very much Dave Upton. From dueeasto2 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 3 15:33:42 2005 From: dueeasto2 at yahoo.co.uk (ANTHONY SHERWOOD) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:33:39 2005 Subject: [CAE] Log Manchester 03/04/05 14.24-16.00 Message-ID: <20050403193342.44315.qmail@web25710.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Evening all, Made an unbelievable 7 today! Here`s the log, Sunday, 3 April, 2005 Manchester 9Y-JIL Airbus A.340 311 016 BWIA West Indies Airways AP-BFV Boeing B.747 367 23534 Pakistan International Ai B-18703 Boeing B.747 409F 30761 China Airlines D-ABAW Boeing B.737NG 86J 30062 Air-Berlin* D-ACRE Canadair CRJ 200ER 7607 Eurowings* D-AGPK Fokker F.100 11313 Air-Berlin EI-CBK Avions de Transport Regi199 Aer Arann F-GRXA Airbus A.319 111 1640 Air France G-BRYU De Havilland Canada DHC-458 British Airways G-BVZI Boeing B.737 5Q8 25167 bmi baby G-CELH Boeing B.737 330 23525 Jet2 G-CELI Boeing B.737 330 23526 Jet2 G-CELK Boeing B.737 330 23530 Jet2 G-CELY Boeing B.737 377QC 23662 Jet2* G-DAJC Boeing B.767 31KER 27206 MyTravel Airways G-EMBC Embraer ERJ-145 EP 145024 British Airways G-EMBX Embraer ERJ-145 EU 145573 British Airways G-FCLK Boeing B.757 2Y0 26161 Thomas Cook Airlines G-JMDW Cessna Citation II 550 550-0183 MAS Airways Limited G-MIDY Airbus A.320 232 1014 bmi british midland G-MPCD Airbus A.320 212 379 Monarch Airlines G-NVSA De Havilland Canada DHC-451 British Airways G-NVSB De Havilland Canada DHC-517 British Airways G-OGBD Boeing B.737 3L9 27833 bmi baby G-OJEG Airbus A.321 231 1015 Monarch Airlines G-OMYT Airbus A.330 243 301 MyTravel Airways G-OOAR Airbus A.320 214 1320 First Choice Airways G-OOBD Boeing B.757 28A 33099 First Choice Airways G-OZBH Airbus A.321 231 2105 Monarch Airlines G-OZBI Airbus A.321 231 2234 Monarch Airlines* G-OZBJ Airbus A.320 212 446 Monarch Airlines G-RJGR Boeing B.757 225 22197 MyTravel Airways G-TOYC Boeing B.737 3Q8 26312 bmi baby* G-TTOI Airbus A.320 232 2137 British Airways HA-LKB Boeing B.737NG 86Q 30294 Travel Service Hungary* I-DANP McDonnell Douglas DC-9 853180 Alitalia LN-ROW McDonnell Douglas DC-9 849438 Scandinavian Airlines Sys LZ-HMI Tupolev Tu-154 M 85A706 Balkan Holidays Air LZ-HMW Tupolev Tu-154 M 85A707 Balkan Holidays Air OE-GAA Cessna Citation V 560 560-0111 Tyrolean Air Ambulance Gm OK-XGW Boeing B.737 5H6 26446 CSA Czech Airlines OO-DWE AVRO 146 RJ100 E3327 SN Brussels Airlines OO-VLE Fokker F.50 20132 VLM Airlines OO-VLM Fokker F.50 20135 VLM Airlines PH-BXF Boeing B.737NG 8K2 29596 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines PH-OFH Fokker F.100 11277 KLM cityhopper TF-AMD Boeing B.747 243BF 23476 Air Atlanta* Icelandic TF-ELN Boeing B.737 3Q8QC 23766 Fly Globespan.com TF-ELZ Boeing B.737 4Y0 23980 Jet2 Regards Tony Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 15:42:04 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 15:42:09 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT 3/4/05 - ???977F B737 to Dublin? Message-ID: <1e8.3871fd1f.2f81a10c@aol.com> Can anyone complete the callsign for the above 737 routing Lambourne - Compton - Dublin this afternoon (over Heathrow at 13.00) - ended 977F. Have a note of most of the other overflights (flight numbers only at this stage) between 12.00 and 18.00 - if anyone needs anything else confirmed e-mail me direct. Cheers Dave O From mogul2968 at tesco.net Sun Apr 3 16:03:10 2005 From: mogul2968 at tesco.net (Malcolm Johnson) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:03:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Humberside International Airport 3.4.05 Message-ID: <026501c53888$291ab110$d7ea1252@mrs9rfeikzr9ny> And in a packed apron at 2035 local the following: N516GH Gulf V (thanks for the heads up Peter) G-MAJM J41 Eastern Airways PH-KZG F70 KLM Cityhopper Regards Malcolm Humberside Airport 2005 photos at: http://malcolm306.fotopic.net/c424666.html From md69 at md69.co.uk Sun Apr 3 16:03:59 2005 From: md69 at md69.co.uk (Martin Dennett) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:03:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] ORG - Codes in Headers - AGAIN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42504C2F.2000804@md69.co.uk> Jim Brookbank wrote: > Good point Neil. A while back there was a tale in the papers in the > UK about a couple who had booked on-line to go to Sydney. They went > to Heathrow and (apparently) thought nothing of the fact that they > were booked on an Air Canada flight. They started to get suspicious > when they changed planes in Halifax, Nova Scotia onto a small > twin-prop (Dash8 I suspect). I wonder whether they enjoyed their > holiday in Sydney, Nova Scotia?? > > Regards > > Jim From this incident, we can draw parallels with people on this list - THAT PEOPLE DON'T READ OR CAN'T READ!!!!! I said last night that the list was being on total moderate and any further postings should go to the moderating team direct or the forum. After a request from PJH this morning I removed the moderated state and allowed mails through again. The next person who posts to the list about the above subject OR about the carrier in Portsmouth which is carrying lots of N registered Tomcats or whatever else it carries will find themselves removed from the list. Period. Those not in agreement with the above statement can click on cae-unsubscribe@aviationlists.com MD From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 16:03:53 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:03:51 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT 1525 127.425 Message-ID: <100.10a555f9.2f81a629@aol.com> Alex/All I saw TVS530 (c/s Skytravel) routing Midhurst - Welin at around 13.30 from LHR - I assumed it had gone to Manchester as one was due between 10.50 and 11.50. I think (but cant be sure) that it was calling 531 when it returned later. Cheers Dave From Smithoag at aol.com Sun Apr 3 16:05:58 2005 From: Smithoag at aol.com (Smithoag@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:05:56 2005 Subject: [CAE] LO & REQ LONDON CITY, SOUTHEND, CLACTON, WORMINGFORD, Message-ID: <97.5c920a0b.2f81a6a6@aol.com> Dick many thanks for those happy spotting,mate Colin From chris.ellington at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 16:08:05 2005 From: chris.ellington at ntlworld.com (Chris Ellington) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:08:00 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req Teeside 02-04-05 Message-ID: <000201c53888$db1fcfd0$64396551@home927b949bff> G-BZOG Scot Airways bringing Middlesbrough team back from Crystal Palace. Chris From tony.patten at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 16:12:23 2005 From: tony.patten at ntlworld.com (Tony Patten) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:12:28 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT 3/4/05 - ???977F B737 to Dublin? In-Reply-To: <1e8.3871fd1f.2f81a10c@aol.com> Message-ID: <20050403201231.OUGM1279.aamta03-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@tony> Hi Dave - I made this HHI977F - Hamburg International...... HTH Tony P. -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Ollyde@aol.com Sent: 03 April 2005 20:42 To: UK-Overflights@yahoogroups.com; CAE@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT 3/4/05 - ???977F B737 to Dublin? Can anyone complete the callsign for the above 737 routing Lambourne - Compton - Dublin this afternoon (over Heathrow at 13.00) - ended 977F. Have a note of most of the other overflights (flight numbers only at this stage) between 12.00 and 18.00 - if anyone needs anything else confirmed e-mail me direct. Cheers Dave O _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From sean.meagher1 at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 16:14:22 2005 From: sean.meagher1 at btinternet.com (Sean Meagher) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:14:51 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT 3/4/05 - ???977F B737 to Dublin? In-Reply-To: <1e8.3871fd1f.2f81a10c@aol.com> Message-ID: HHI997F Saarbrucken-Dublin (D-AHIC) Sean -----Original Message----- From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com]On Behalf Of Ollyde@aol.com Sent: 03 April 2005 20:42 To: UK-Overflights@yahoogroups.com; CAE@aviationlists.com Subject: [CAE] REQ: OTT 3/4/05 - ???977F B737 to Dublin? Can anyone complete the callsign for the above 737 routing Lambourne - Compton - Dublin this afternoon (over Heathrow at 13.00) - ended 977F. Have a note of most of the other overflights (flight numbers only at this stage) between 12.00 and 18.00 - if anyone needs anything else confirmed e-mail me direct. Cheers Dave O _______________________________________________ CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com and click 'CAE Archives' To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.0 - Release Date: 31/03/2005 From s.hart at ntlworld.com Sun Apr 3 16:29:15 2005 From: s.hart at ntlworld.com (Steve) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:29:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers References: <000001c53792$99dd0980$0e01a8c0@andrew> <001001c537b5$d8bd9ac0$9d797ad5@main1> Message-ID: <00fc01c5388b$cf7b2190$cc996451@stephenjq7fjhb> hi looks like ive just been made to look stupid,my guess for ORD would have been orlando fl.yes some are obvious,but how do you get chicago o`hare from ORD. steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rotorblades" To: "C_spottersnew" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > Why is everybody getting so hyped up over it. It is preference. > As an ATCO I work with 4 letter codes for aiports i.e. EGLL Heathrow, VSSS > Singapore, PANC Anchorage. I very rarely use 3 letters but still can work > out or know most of the major ones around the world. i.e JFK is obviously > New York kennedy Apt. CDG is Paris de gaulle, FRA Frankfurt. > If I dont know a coding be it either 3 or 4 letter I go and look it up on > the net or in paper resources., learn something new everyday, thats my > motto. > If you are going somewhere and want a tie-up then look at the baggae label > attached to your luggae, then youll see ORD ties up with Chicago Ohare or > MDW for midway. > The other side of the argument I can see if its a small airport in the > middle of no-where like RPMA surallah-allah valley in the philippines then > it is understandable. > But all major aiports can be worked out with little effort. > Anyone who cant decode these should have a rethink about what HOBBY they > in :-) > LHR > LGW > MAN > FRA > DFW > JFK > SYD > LAX > FRA > > > Only a bit of fun!!! Lighten up everyone just enjoy it for what it is a > hobby!!!!, If someone chooses to only use codes then let 'em its a free > country........ > Alex > :-)))))) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew" > To: "'Geoff Cook'" ; "'aviationlist'" > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:45 PM > Subject: RE: [CAE] Codes in headers > > > I disagree > > I wouldn’t know where ORD is or at least not until all this had gone on, > I don’t know what JNB stands for either, ok I might be able to assume > what the other 3 are, sometimes assuming can work out to be a bad thing. > > Also if I were to go anywhere I wouldn’t go looking up what 3 or even 4 > letter code for the airport is either. > > Why should a 50 year old need to know the code ORD, am I in for > something good when I get to 50 a free holiday there perhaps. Will my > memory change and suddenly I will know all the 3 letter codes in the > world. Personally then I would not have a problem. > > So myself I think I would rather stick to the rules and state the > airport/airfield name. No mistake made then. > > Thanks > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com > [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Cook > Sent: 02 April 2005 15:27 > To: aviationlist > Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > > > I support Mike Vass here.. > > If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 > years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a > problem! > > In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I > dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I > havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know > which cities they serve.. > > Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the > following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX > AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. > > I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think > this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW > MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike > may have done!! > > I didnt think an apology was needed.. > > Okay I feel better now! > > Geoff > > > > > > Looking for New York Airport info? Try this > site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup > > Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header > page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From stephen.amery at btconnect.com Sun Apr 3 16:35:17 2005 From: stephen.amery at btconnect.com (Steve Amery) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:37:12 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ: Shoreham 3/4/05 Message-ID: <01af01c5388c$a5c75c50$14788651@B52STEVE> Hi, Did anyone please note the 'reg of the Trislander operating the Rockhopper Aero flights XAX603/4 today in/out of Shoreham. MTIA Steve. From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 16:38:38 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:38:34 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Heathrow 3/4/05 Message-ID: Have not got the time to post a full log but noted between 12.00 and 18.00 were :- HB-IAX Da2000 B-HXM A340 Cathay N198UA B747 UAL (ZS-SXD) A340 SAA TC-JDN A340 THY JY-AIB A340 RJA B-16106 MD11 EVA HZ-AFA1 MD11 Saudi Govt SU-GCD A320 Egyptair OE-LDC A319 Austrian OO-DLY A300 DHL OO-DIB A300 DHL F-GUGG A318 AFR CN-RNK B737 RAM HZ-AFA GLX G-DBCE A319 BMI Cheers Dave Oliver From dgwindsor at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Apr 3 16:50:35 2005 From: dgwindsor at blueyonder.co.uk (Dave Windsor) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:50:32 2005 Subject: [CAE] Codes in headers References: <000001c53792$99dd0980$0e01a8c0@andrew><001001c537b5$d8bd9ac0$9d797ad5@main1> <00fc01c5388b$cf7b2190$cc996451@stephenjq7fjhb> Message-ID: <001d01c5388e$cd396790$8de62c52@DAVEDESKTOP> Hi Steve/All, I hope it is OK to reply to the mans question - I am not bitching, moaning or anything else!!! To quote from the http://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html website -- Once upon a time, before the editor and publisher of the Chicago Tribune, Colonel Robert McCormick suggested a name change as tribute to pilot Lt. Cmdr. Edward "Butch" O'Hare, USN, there was an airstrip well to the northwest of Chicago with a quaint, peaceful name -- Orchard Field. Best Regards, Dave Windsor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" To: "Rotorblades" ; "C_spottersnew" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > hi > looks like ive just been made to look stupid,my guess for ORD would have > been orlando fl.yes some are obvious,but how do you get chicago o`hare > from ORD. > steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rotorblades" > To: "C_spottersnew" > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers > > >> Why is everybody getting so hyped up over it. It is preference. >> As an ATCO I work with 4 letter codes for aiports i.e. EGLL Heathrow, >> VSSS Singapore, PANC Anchorage. I very rarely use 3 letters but still can >> work out or know most of the major ones around the world. i.e JFK is >> obviously New York kennedy Apt. CDG is Paris de gaulle, FRA Frankfurt. >> If I dont know a coding be it either 3 or 4 letter I go and look it up on >> the net or in paper resources., learn something new everyday, thats my >> motto. >> If you are going somewhere and want a tie-up then look at the baggae >> label attached to your luggae, then youll see ORD ties up with Chicago >> Ohare or MDW for midway. >> The other side of the argument I can see if its a small airport in the >> middle of no-where like RPMA surallah-allah valley in the philippines >> then it is understandable. >> But all major aiports can be worked out with little effort. >> Anyone who cant decode these should have a rethink about what HOBBY they >> in :-) >> LHR >> LGW >> MAN >> FRA >> DFW >> JFK >> SYD >> LAX >> FRA >> >> >> Only a bit of fun!!! Lighten up everyone just enjoy it for what it is a >> hobby!!!!, If someone chooses to only use codes then let 'em its a free >> country........ >> Alex >> :-)))))) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew" >> To: "'Geoff Cook'" ; "'aviationlist'" >> >> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:45 PM >> Subject: RE: [CAE] Codes in headers >> >> >> I disagree >> >> I wouldn’t know where ORD is or at least not until all this had gone on, >> I don’t know what JNB stands for either, ok I might be able to assume >> what the other 3 are, sometimes assuming can work out to be a bad thing. >> >> Also if I were to go anywhere I wouldn’t go looking up what 3 or even 4 >> letter code for the airport is either. >> >> Why should a 50 year old need to know the code ORD, am I in for >> something good when I get to 50 a free holiday there perhaps. Will my >> memory change and suddenly I will know all the 3 letter codes in the >> world. Personally then I would not have a problem. >> >> So myself I think I would rather stick to the rules and state the >> airport/airfield name. No mistake made then. >> >> Thanks >> >> Andrew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com >> [mailto:CAE-bounces@aviationlists.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Cook >> Sent: 02 April 2005 15:27 >> To: aviationlist >> Subject: Re: [CAE] Codes in headers >> >> >> I support Mike Vass here.. >> >> If someone in their 50s, has been spotting for 30 >> years or so and doesnt know ORD, then they have a >> problem! >> >> In a David Brent voice: "Ooh I havent been there so I >> dont know it exists" is a lame excuse.. Guess what, I >> havent been to JNB or SYD or HNL or HKG, but I know >> which cities they serve.. >> >> Currently on CAE (thats Civil aviation list!) are the >> following codes without city location: EDI NEMA BHX >> AMS/EHAM, so Mike isnt the only one at fault.. >> >> I know the rules ask for city and code, but I think >> this was supposed to stamp out wrong codes such as HTW >> MCR GAT etc., which are far worse than anything Mike >> may have done!! >> >> I didnt think an apology was needed.. >> >> Okay I feel better now! >> >> Geoff >> >> >> >> >> >> Looking for New York Airport info? Try this >> site!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/nycairportgroup >> >> Airborne brings in the heavy jets! photo on the header >> page!http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tfgreenairportwarwickripvd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at >> http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com >> >> To read on the web go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com >> and click 'CAE Archives' >> >> To amend your options go to >> http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com >> >> The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com >> >> The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 16:57:14 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:57:11 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: OTT Heathrow 3/4/05 Message-ID: <12c.5afe79ec.2f81b2aa@aol.com> A couple of interesting ones noted today thanks to the various heads up etc so as this might help others I'll list the following:- All noted OTT LHR CS-DKB Glf 5 LAM-CPT - 12.22 UKN6119 IL62 LAM-CPT-SNN - 13.07 - should be UR-86528 thanks to Sean Meagher N995GA GLXY LAM-CPT-SNN - 13.07 - thanks to Sean TVS530 B737 MID-WELIN - Manchester - OK-TVB - thanks to Colin for tie up EI-DIM B737 CPT- KOK - 14.22 - again, thanks to Sean for heads up PTI559 B757 LAM-CPT - 14.38 SVA900 B74F CPT-DVR - 14.40 RCH826Y MD11 (World) LAM-CPT-STU 14.42 Adriatic 591 MD80 CPT-KOK - 18.01 (may have been "6591") and a Air Atlanta 747 heading to BIG -DVR at 16.58 - not heard. Hope this is of interest Cheers Dave Oliver From andy.dewey at btinternet.com Sun Apr 3 17:00:22 2005 From: andy.dewey at btinternet.com (Andy Dewey) Date: Sun Apr 3 16:59:53 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Stansted 3/4/05 Message-ID: <003701c53890$4aaa7ba0$28ab9951@homecomputer> Hi, my first evening session of this year produced the following from approx 18.45 OK-XGA B737 CSA dep as we arrived N614FE MD11 Fedex TS-IQA A321 Nouvelair dep approx 20.00 OM-SEA B737 Sky Europe dep approx 19.00 LN-KKH B737 Norwegian Shuttle dep D-ABAR B737 Air Berlin arr as AB8526 at 19.18 G-CEAF B737 Palmair arr as Euroshuttle 1655 at 19.22 G-ZAPM B737 Titan arr as ???64D at 19.22 D-AGPE F100 Air Berlin arr as AB 8448 at 19.26 D-AILF A319 Germanwings arr as EW2336? at 19.35 D-ABAY B737 Air Berlin arr as AB422A at 19.39 D-ABBA B737 Air Berlin arr as AB8594 at 19.42 D-ABBE B737 Air Berlin arr as AB 8690 at 19.45 S5-AAB A320 Adria arr as Flystar 155 at 19.48 D-ABBJ B737 Air Berlin arr as AB 8342 at 19.50 OE-LOE A321 FlyNikki arr at 19.59 G-GSSA B747 Global Supplies arr as BAW3574 at 20.01 D-AILL A319 Germanwings arr as EW338 at 20.03 G-ZAPO 146 Titan ar at 20.06 LN-KKM B737 Norwegian Shuttle arr as Norshuttle 1316 at 20.07 HA-LOC B737 Malev arr as MA614 at 20.11 4X-EBT B757 ElAl arr as ELY213 at 20.15 Andy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From Ollyde at aol.com Sun Apr 3 17:20:14 2005 From: Ollyde at aol.com (Ollyde@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:20:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Luton 3/4/05 - 18.55 to 19.15 and later movements Message-ID: <97.5c9236ba.2f81b80e@aol.com> Noted tonight at Luton between 18.55 and 19.15 were (not a full log) LX-GDC CL6 EI-DAS B737 RYR CS-DFZ 125 OO-DPB B757 DHL N71PG LJ - marked on n/w/d ESPA691D - what does this mean? N671LE G5 CS-DFD Da2000 G-EZEB A319 EZY N486QS G4 N498YY CJ N905QS Ce750 N254SJ BBJ CS-DMA Be400 EI-DAN B737 RYR G-SSWM SD360 Later movements have included (times as aircraft pass over Stevenage seven miles out on r/w 26):- N909MM Da900EX - 20.06 MNB713 A300 - 20.54 - reported as TC-MNU - credit Lee Palmer/LAF GES102 - 21.32 - looked like a Global Express NFA117 - SA227 - 21.58 N550GA - GLF550 - 22.09 Cheers Dave Oliver From andy-g at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 17:25:35 2005 From: andy-g at tiscali.co.uk (Andrew Garrett) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:25:37 2005 Subject: [CAE] req Message-ID: <00cc01c53893$ad0e7140$8d5b2950@youru2kzfib7p8> doe any body now the regs of the 2 American airlines in Manchester to day (3.04.05) thanks very much best wishes Andrew Garrett From jayne4esnob at tesco.net Sun Apr 3 17:32:06 2005 From: jayne4esnob at tesco.net (jayne4esnob) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:32:19 2005 Subject: [CAE] Re Fedex OTT + Req Message-ID: <000001c53894$abf36ee0$1f160c52@c3r5f9> Hi Fedex 6 was OTT Coventry 1555 on Saturday and was 623. Anyone i/d Fed 2 on the same day? - Many thanks Pete From steved at dc1075.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 3 17:35:03 2005 From: steved at dc1075.freeserve.co.uk (STEVE DUNN) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:38:45 2005 Subject: [CAE] REQ Manchester today 3rd References: <199.3c49ae65.2f819f02@aol.com> Message-ID: <002901c53894$ffca7220$10ef4c51@stephen> hi dave your alitalia was i-danp hope this helps steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: [CAE] REQ Manchester today 3rd > Anybody know the registration of Alitalia 261 which departed this afternoon. > Thanks very much Dave Upton. > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > From KVandermoere at pandora.be Sun Apr 3 17:39:07 2005 From: KVandermoere at pandora.be (Kristof Vandermoere) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:39:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] MOV: Ostend & Koksijde 03/04/05 Message-ID: <002201c53895$91e73b20$6400a8c0@pipo> Hello all, Noted this afternoon at Ostend/Bruges airport were the following: Again nice sunny weather today so a trip to Ostend & Koksijde was made. 9G-MKH...DC.8-62F...MK Airlines (all white) 9G-MKM...B747-2B5F/SCD...MK Airlines 9G-MKP...B747-245F/SCD...MK Airlines D-FUKK...North American Harvard Mk4 T6 ER-AXY...AN-12BK...Asterias / ACS F-GETV...Piper PA-23-250 Aztec F G-BACG...Piper PA.34-200 Seneca II G-OPST...Cessna 182R Skylane HZ-AIU...B747-268F/SCD...Saudia Cargo N642P...Piper PA-31 Navajo...'The British World Gas Corporation' titles OO-MWM...Piper PA-28-180E Cherokee OO-RAG...Piper PA-32R-301 Saratoga SP OO-WEO...Reims-Cessna FA.150K Aerobat...A?roclub de Borinage asbl PH-URK...Piper PA-31-310 Navajo SU-GAC...A.300B4-203F...Egypt Air photos on http://westwings-ebos.fotopic.net/c453956.html +residents: G-BGJB...Piper PA-44-180 Seminole OO-MLB...Reims-Cessna F.150M...Noordzee Vliegclub vzw OO-OCC...Grob G.115A...Ostend Air College Visitors noted at Koksijde: N1530X...Piper PA-28R-200 Cherokee Arrow II OO-YIO...Robin DR.400/120 Dauphin 2+2 OO-E52...CT Flight Design photos on http://westwings-ga.fotopic.net/c151481_25.html Regards, Kristof Vandermoere Belgium http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=4966 From chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com Sun Apr 3 17:46:10 2005 From: chris_mailinglist at hotmail.com (Chris [AMS/EHAM]) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:46:05 2005 Subject: [CAE] Copter as aircargo AMS In-Reply-To: <1112551742.868.78695.m12@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: Hiya, Noted today at work, two copters as cargo. Details: 1- Bell 206L-4 transported o/b KL644, JFK - AMS 01/04 According to a mail on dutch-spotters, msn is 52306. (could not see msn myself.) 2- Bell 212 probably transported by road to AMS. Scheduled to be transported to JNB 04/04 o/b KL591 (assume Bell 206 will also be o/b this flight). Both are for National Airways Corp., Lanseria. Pics have been uploaded to MyAviation, will be online within 24 hours (i hope). Keep the website, mentioned below, in mind and have a look soon. http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=1106 Bye, Chris. From torben.koed at privat.dk Sun Apr 3 17:50:26 2005 From: torben.koed at privat.dk (Torben Rottbøll Koed) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:49:49 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Copenhagen 28-03-2005 Message-ID: <004101c53897$27db0750$8901a8c0@klienten> OH-SAT Saab 2000 Blue 1 LX-LGL ERJ-135LR Luxair OY-MBJ RJ-200LR Cimber Air SAS logo on tail and title “Flying for Scandinavian Airlines” CS-TNK A320-214 TAP YL-BAR F50 Air Baltic EC-HHA A320-214 Iberia F-GJNM B737-528 Air France OY-MLY B737-73S Maersk OY-UCA Ce. 525A G-EZSM A319-111 EasyJet OH-SAX Saab 2000 Blue 1 D-AVRC RJ85 Lufthansa OY-APK B737-5L9 Maersk in basic Air Baltic c/s - no titles SP-LDE ERJ-170LR LOT LN-WFB DHC-8-311A Widerøe OY-SEM B737-8BK Sterling S5-AAB A320-231 Adria Airways G-EUUJ A320-232 British Airways OY-MBI RJ-200LR Cimber all white TC-JFZ B737-8F2 THY OY-RTC ATR-72-202 Cimber Air OH-SAM RJ-100 Blue 1 G-CTLA A321-211 My Travel Airlines All the best Torben From torben.koed at privat.dk Sun Apr 3 17:55:43 2005 From: torben.koed at privat.dk (Torben Rottbøll Koed) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Copenhagen 02-04-2005 Message-ID: <004801c53897$e2542670$8901a8c0@klienten> G-JPSX Falcon 900 G-EUPH A319 British AW OO-DJJ R85 Brussels AW 9V-SVD B777 Singapore Airlines PH-BDR B737 KLM I-DAWQ MD80 Alitalia G-CCYH EMB145 BMI TC-JFL B737 THY D-ACLT RJ-100 Lufthansa OH-SAI RJ85 Blue 1 5B-DBW B737 Eurocypria CS-TJE A321 Air Portugal OY-RTD ATR 72 Cimber Air OY-RTG ATR 72 Cimber Air F-GJNE B737 Air France EC-HQJ A320 Iberia ES-ABG B737 Estonian G-EUXD A321 British AW HB-IZJ Saab 2000 Swiss LZ-BOI B737 Bulgaria Air OY-CDR SOCATA TB-10 OH-LVI A319 Finnair D-CLUB Learjet 60 EP-LBS Tu154 KishAir HS-TGD B747 Thai LN-RRL B737 StarAlliance cls SE-RDM MD80 Nordic Leisure SU-BNO G IV Egypt TS-IED B737 Kathargo All the best Torben From torben.koed at privat.dk Sun Apr 3 17:56:50 2005 From: torben.koed at privat.dk (Torben Rottbøll Koed) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:56:10 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG Copenhagen 03-04-2005 Message-ID: <004e01c53898$0aaf9230$8901a8c0@klienten> PH-BTG B737 KLM I-DAWH MD82 Alitalia D-ACJJ RJ-100 Lufthansa OY-MLZ B737 Maersk PH-KBX Fokker 70 Netherlands Government SE-RFB MD82 Nordic F-GJNX B737 Air France HB-IXF RJ85 Swiss SE-ISL Saab 340 Skyways EC-HGZ A320 Iberia CS-TJE A321 TAP G-RXJL Emb 135 BMI All the best Torben From dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 18:09:29 2005 From: dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk (Gareth Whitehead) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:09:29 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: Manchester 3.4.05 Message-ID: <002201c53899$cff81160$0100a8c0@DAD> A quick spin up for the LOT E170 and the following hit the log-book. G-GTDK A320 MYT PH-BTA B737 KLM1097 OK-DGC B737 CSA646 SP-LDG E170 LOT289 G-ZAPU B757 I-DAWL MD80 AZA262 SE-RDE MD80 TF-ELN B737 flyglobespan.com titles D-AISF A321 DLH CS-TPC E145 PGA600 EI-DEB A320 EIN21G(218) G-SFSG BE90 ---917 a)2225 I also thought I heard NJE75F land around 2155 and go to NEA (didn’t see it). Rgds Gareth Whitehead -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From simon at sbrotherton.fsworld.co.uk Sun Apr 3 18:16:59 2005 From: simon at sbrotherton.fsworld.co.uk (Simon Brotherton) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:14:44 2005 Subject: [CAE] LOG: OTT Heathrow 3/4/05 References: <12c.5afe79ec.2f81b2aa@aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01c5389a$dac9e270$b69b87d9@simon> Hi Dave, > TVS530 B737 MID-WELIN - Manchester - OK-TVB - thanks to Colin for tie up This was in fact HA-LKB, read off when landing at MAN. Best regards, Simon Brotherton "I know I Am, I'm Sure I Am, I'm Alty Till I Die !!" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: [CAE] LOG: OTT Heathrow 3/4/05 >A couple of interesting ones noted today thanks to the various heads up etc > so as this might help others I'll list the following:- > > All noted OTT LHR > > CS-DKB Glf 5 LAM-CPT - 12.22 > UKN6119 IL62 LAM-CPT-SNN - 13.07 - should be UR-86528 thanks to Sean > Meagher > N995GA GLXY LAM-CPT-SNN - 13.07 - thanks to Sean > TVS530 B737 MID-WELIN - Manchester - OK-TVB - thanks to Colin for tie up > EI-DIM B737 CPT- KOK - 14.22 - again, thanks to Sean for heads up > PTI559 B757 LAM-CPT - 14.38 > SVA900 B74F CPT-DVR - 14.40 > RCH826Y MD11 (World) LAM-CPT-STU 14.42 > Adriatic 591 MD80 CPT-KOK - 18.01 (may have been "6591") > > and a Air Atlanta 747 heading to BIG -DVR at 16.58 - not heard. > > Hope this is of interest > > Cheers > > Dave Oliver > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 From jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Apr 3 18:22:04 2005 From: jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hall) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:22:02 2005 Subject: [CAE] OTT 1525 127.425 References: <008401c53859$4667a6d0$167a8351@main1> Message-ID: <018b01c5389b$9097a1f0$e6e02b52@STEVEHALL> TVS 530 was HA-LKB out of Manchester Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rotorblades" To: "C_spottersnew" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: [CAE] OTT 1525 127.425 > Hi All, > Just called on 127.425 are > VP-BVT GLF4 > TVS530 routing to SITET (?) > > Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > From jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Apr 3 18:22:52 2005 From: jefferz at blueyonder.co.uk (Steve Hall) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:22:48 2005 Subject: [CAE] Req: China Airlines B744 OTT Luton References: <20050403153648.68585.qmail@web25810.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019001c5389b$ad1e5620$e6e02b52@STEVEHALL> Twas B-18703 744F inbound to Manchester Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "philip taylor" To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: [CAE] Req: China Airlines B744 OTT Luton > Hi, > > Could anyone tell me the I.D. of a China Airlines B747-400 seen over Luton > at 14.30 today 03/04/05.Possibly inbound to Manchester? Couldnt tell if it > was a Pax or Cargo. > > Many thanks > > Phil > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > CAE mailing list - CAE@aviationlists.com > > To read on the web go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/listinfo/cae_aviationlists.com > > and click 'CAE Archives' > > To amend your options go to > http://mail.aviationlists.com/mailman/options/cae_aviationlists.com > > The homepage can be found at > http://www.aviationlists.com > > The infamous Vault, until completely transferred, is at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters/links > > From dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 3 18:25:58 2005 From: dynasty40 at tiscali.co.uk (Gareth Whitehead) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:25:56 2005 Subject: [CAE] FW: LOG: 3.4.05 Typo error Message-ID: <000001c5389c$1cf26b30$0100a8c0@DAD> The PGA is obviously a Fokker 100 and not an EMB 145. Gareth -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Whitehead HYPERLINK "mailto:[mailto:dynasty40@tiscali.co.uk]" [mailto:dynasty40@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:09 PM To: Ringway Subject: LOG: 3.4.05 A quick spin up for the LOT E170 and the following hit the log-book. G-GTDK A320 MYT PH-BTA B737 KLM1097 OK-DGC B737 CSA646 SP-LDG E170 LOT289 G-ZAPU B757 I-DAWL MD80 AZA262 SE-RDE MD80 TF-ELN B737 flyglobespan.com titles D-AISF A321 DLH CS-TPC E145 PGA600 EI-DEB A320 EIN21G(218) G-SFSG BE90 ---917 a)2225 I also thought I heard NJE75F land around 2155 and go to NEA (didn’t see it). Rgds Gareth Whitehead -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Chec